Numero Capitan wrote:Govindia has been promoted to Senior Warrant Officer
This was all I needed to see.
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by Cormac Stark » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:09 pm
Numero Capitan wrote:Govindia has been promoted to Senior Warrant Officer
by RiderSyl » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:19 pm
by Cormac Stark » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:37 pm
Ridersyl wrote:Ehh, AWP reserves the right to have an extremely unpopular gameplayer with a history of off-site fuckery, just as the rest of us reserve the right to shower them with unfavorable opinions for doing so.
by RiderSyl » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:40 pm
by Knot II » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:08 pm
Numero Capitan wrote:Gov has never been that involved in regional affairs, but he has notched up 81 RDF missions which is not to be sniffed at. We don't really turn anyone away, it adds colour
[12:18 AM] Knot: No worries, I have better kicking rates when there are more defenders.
[12:20 AM] Chingis Otchigin: Knot's hammer is splash damage konfirmed
by Benevolent Thomas » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:38 pm
Knot II wrote:Benevolent Thomas: Still very much a class act.
Ballotonia wrote:Personally, I think there's something seriously wrong with a game if it willfully allows the destruction of longtime player communities in favor of kids whose sole purpose is to enjoy ruining the game for others.
by Cormac Stark » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:52 pm
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Govindia's "promotion" was the result of a records backlog dating back over half a decade ago. He's not even a Citizen of AWP
by Knot II » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:54 pm
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Govindia's "promotion" was the result of a records backlog dating back over half a decade ago. He's not even a Citizen of AWP
[12:18 AM] Knot: No worries, I have better kicking rates when there are more defenders.
[12:20 AM] Chingis Otchigin: Knot's hammer is splash damage konfirmed
by Cormac Stark » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:58 pm
Knot II wrote:Benevolent Thomas wrote:Govindia's "promotion" was the result of a records backlog dating back over half a decade ago. He's not even a Citizen of AWP
I beg to differ.
by Benevolent Thomas » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:26 pm
Ballotonia wrote:Personally, I think there's something seriously wrong with a game if it willfully allows the destruction of longtime player communities in favor of kids whose sole purpose is to enjoy ruining the game for others.
by Xoriet » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:42 pm
by The Silver Sentinel » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:43 pm
Cormac Stark wrote:Ridersyl wrote:Ehh, AWP reserves the right to have an extremely unpopular gameplayer with a history of off-site fuckery, just as the rest of us reserve the right to shower them with unfavorable opinions for doing so.
It should go further than unfavorable opinions. Regions that harbor people who OOC harass other people off-site, and who expect not only their own members but potentially members of other regions to be exposed to them, should be completely shunned.
by Cormac Stark » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:58 pm
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I'm telling you, he is not a citizen. He's not listed in the Citizenship/Eligible Voters list. Take my word for it. I've made an inquiry about his masking and the issue will be forced/settled.
by Xeutia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:31 pm
Cormac Stark wrote:These regions that harbor -- and promote! -- people who have engaged in bad OOC off-site behavior are enabling further such behavior though, and people who participate in such regions enable those regions.
by Cormac Stark » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:37 pm
Xeutia wrote:You said the same thing about Unibot in the TSP Embassy thread. I'm not sure offsite behavior should take front and center in this (unless it's illegal). If AWP is indeed promoting Govindia, that's their prerogative. Let the chips fall where they may.
Xeutia wrote:What about on-site behavior? TNP's offsite forum is home to Nierr/Madjack (DoS in NS). In the recent past, there was an attempt to pass legislation to allow him to become an 'honorary' citizen of TNP. Thankfully, that failed. Some high ranking gov't officials sang his praises as a significant contributor to the region, all the while glossing over his behavior here. Does that meet the criterion of enabling?
(apologies if this is a bit off topic)
by ROM » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:40 pm
Cormac Stark wrote:Benevolent Thomas wrote:I'm telling you, he is not a citizen. He's not listed in the Citizenship/Eligible Voters list. Take my word for it. I've made an inquiry about his masking and the issue will be forced/settled.
Then why is he being promoted? That doesn't make a tiny bit of sense. Regardless of his past contributions, you don't promote someone who is no longer there and participating, whom you intend not to allow to be there and participate in the future.
For the record, I'm not blaming you for Govindia being there or being promoted; it's pretty clear Numero is responsible for that. I'm also not trying to stigmatize you. These regions that harbor -- and promote! -- people who have engaged in bad OOC off-site behavior are enabling further such behavior though, and people who participate in such regions enable those regions. In that sense, I'm disappointed to see you -- as well as Dyr and Rom -- participating there until they make a commitment not to harbor Govindia. Only shunning these regions will force them to stop harboring people engaged in bad OOC off-site behavior.
On the other hand, I'm told that Govindia remains unbanned from #jump because Wintreath also continues to harbor him, so this is not solely AWP's problem. It's a defender problem.
by Benevolent Thomas » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:49 pm
Ballotonia wrote:Personally, I think there's something seriously wrong with a game if it willfully allows the destruction of longtime player communities in favor of kids whose sole purpose is to enjoy ruining the game for others.
by Cormac Stark » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:51 pm
Numero Capitan wrote:Gov has never been that involved in regional affairs, but he has notched up 81 RDF missions which is not to be sniffed at. We don't really turn anyone away, it adds colour
by ROM » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:52 pm
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Well, AWP is different than 00000 AWP But I think the sentiment counts at least a bit.
by Jakker » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:44 pm
The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.
by Govindia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:08 pm
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Govindia's "promotion" was the result of a records backlog dating back over half a decade ago. He's not even a Citizen of AWP
Now can we all return to celebrating the return of A World Power? On a personal level, I'm quite happy with my new regional home. AWP has such a rich history and its great to see some of these players returning from the shadows. I can see myself planting some roots here, surrounded by people I admire.Knot II wrote:Benevolent Thomas: Still very much a class act.
by Govindia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:19 pm
The Silver Sentinel wrote:Cormac Stark wrote:It should go further than unfavorable opinions. Regions that harbor people who OOC harass other people off-site, and who expect not only their own members but potentially members of other regions to be exposed to them, should be completely shunned.
Syl, care to share stories about Halc and what went on in TBR? I found them most illuminating. And before you say it Cormac, no I am not defending Gov. He is a pain in the ass on IRC an that will never change.
by Numero Capitan » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:21 pm
by Govindia » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:23 pm
Ayvari wrote:Ridersyl wrote:Are we still talking about Gov, or do they have more members that y'all see as toxic to their community? Legitimately asking.
I was trying to be obvious without actually saying it out loud. Or typing it out for the world to see. Haven't you noticed the Gameplay trend of people appearing when they're mentioned?
by Ramaeus » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:42 pm
Govindia wrote:Cormac is a turncoat raider who only wants to cause trouble and stir up emotions.
and your claims of OOC harassment are unfounded and I will ask you to cease and desist since you cannot provide proof. All of your wording is considered harassment and personal attacks of me and will not be tolerated.
Knock it off Cormac. No one cares what you have to say. Go start another coup in Osiris,or was it The South Pacific you had your heart set on?
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