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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:23 am

Deadeye Jack wrote:What makes you think Guy wouldn't be fine with just being able to enjoy the fruits of being involved in a region and building it up? Not saying I know for sure he would be but I don't see why it's impossible to think that people that defend would be more than happy to just region build and be a part of vibrant communities not threatened due to the absence of raiding.


Absolutely nothing. I have no trouble believing that defenders would go back to planting puppet governments in various regions under the guise of protection like the good ol' days when raiders had little influence.
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Postby Guy » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:09 am

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Guy wrote:full support

Then you are for the destruction of defenders as well as raiders.

Wow, I didn't think about that. Back to the drawing board.

Give this guy a medal, in the meantime. /s
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Postby Conscentia » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:11 am

Goathland wrote:I am so sick and tired of every single new region I call my home becoming invaded by some cut-throat! We have to stop this at once.

Regions with founders that don't give the WA delegate control don't get invaded.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:11 pm

Riftey wrote:ooooorrrrrr....

Found a region, Write slanderous stuff about raiderism on the wfe, turn off delegate controls and run the founder

Remember all that trouble you got into for performing Questionable Acts in the past?

Do you really wanna start up making Questionable Recommendations again?

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Postby Riftey » Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:01 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Riftey wrote:ooooorrrrrr....

Found a region, Write slanderous stuff about raiderism on the wfe, turn off delegate controls and run the founder

Remember all that trouble you got into for performing Questionable Acts in the past?

Do you really wanna start up making Questionable Recommendations again?

'Twas a joke; Thought that was evident.
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Postby Antartide » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:30 pm

Goathland wrote:I am so sick and tired of every single new region I call my home becoming invaded by some cut-throat! We have to stop this at once.

Options: Join a Defender group, Get over it, Password your region, or join the raiders. That simple.
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Postby WraithFIN » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:16 am

I ask you once, how you are going to end invasions? :blink:
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Postby Common Territories » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:34 am

Here's the advice from an actual defender (though I hardly participate anymore) from UDL. Join a region with a founder. Password your regions. Stay active. It's not rocket science people, seriously. Founders make invasions useless and passwords stop unwanted travel. If your region doesn't have on any of the above, then submit yourself to the possible future of raiders attacking. It's part of the game - get used to it, defend from it, or stay away. That's all anyone can say. There are plenty of defender groups willing to help if you ask them - contact them if you need support or liberation.

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Postby Ayvari » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:12 pm

Non-executive delegacy and an active founder are your best bets. Inspire your region members to join the WA and endorse your delegate. Give them reasons not to want to raid you, or to consider raiding your region a waste of time. A founder is good for cleaning up post-raid, but it isn't a failsafe method of preventing tags.
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Postby Achlausan » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:12 pm

Bruh. Take this to WA.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:14 pm

Achlausan wrote:Bruh. Take this to WA.

WA can't do anything about it.
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Postby Aenglaland » Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:17 pm

Goathland wrote:I am so sick and tired of every single new region I call my home becoming invaded by some cut-throat! We have to stop this at once.

Nope, invasions are fun. Seriously. If you want to stop an invasion, working on the security of your region would be the best course.
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Postby The Bruce » Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:32 am

Deadeye Jack wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:Then you are for the destruction of defenders as well as raiders.


What makes you think Guy wouldn't be fine with just being able to enjoy the fruits of being involved in a region and building it up? Not saying I know for sure he would be but I don't see why it's impossible to think that people that defend would be more than happy to just region build and be a part of vibrant communities not threatened due to the absence of raiding.


There are a lot of defenders who would like nothing better than to be no longer necessary. Yes, there are some that live for the activity of it, but many would trade that for some peace and quiet.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:00 am

From a moderation standpoint, just to pop by with a quick US$0.02, we will never implement something that could completely eliminate raiding, for one primary reason:

Where do you draw the line between "political coup" and "raid"? The only way to effectively and completely kill raiding off would probably be the (badly failed) Nationstates 2 approach of locking nations into a single region and not allowing players to move. Which would suck. Which did suck, and contributed to NS2's complete suckage and utter failure as a game.

Players have an opt-out in region founders. A region with an active founder and a non-executive World Assembly delegate is literally raid-proof. For one thing, just having an active founder makes your region a much less attractive target for raiding, and a non-executive delegate even more so. Sure, somebody could still sweep in to try and grab the delegacy, but with a non-executive delegate, they can't actually DO anything with it to harm the region.
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Postby Marselesk » Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:53 am

Reploid Productions wrote:From a moderation standpoint, just to pop by with a quick US$0.02, we will never implement something that could completely eliminate raiding, for one primary reason:

Where do you draw the line between "political coup" and "raid"? The only way to effectively and completely kill raiding off would probably be the (badly failed) Nationstates 2 approach of locking nations into a single region and not allowing players to move. Which would suck. Which did suck, and contributed to NS2's complete suckage and utter failure as a game.

Players have an opt-out in region founders. A region with an active founder and a non-executive World Assembly delegate is literally raid-proof. For one thing, just having an active founder makes your region a much less attractive target for raiding, and a non-executive delegate even more so. Sure, somebody could still sweep in to try and grab the delegacy, but with a non-executive delegate, they can't actually DO anything with it to harm the region.

Off-topic, but are there any records an interested person like me could study to see how NS2 was? I never really got the picture of how it looked, or how it functioned, and it has poked my brain for a couple years now.
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Postby We Are The NSA » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:05 pm

The Bruce wrote:
Deadeye Jack wrote:
What makes you think Guy wouldn't be fine with just being able to enjoy the fruits of being involved in a region and building it up? Not saying I know for sure he would be but I don't see why it's impossible to think that people that defend would be more than happy to just region build and be a part of vibrant communities not threatened due to the absence of raiding.


There are a lot of defenders who would like nothing better than to be no longer necessary. Yes, there are some that live for the activity of it, but many would trade that for some peace and quiet.

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