The Black Hawks | Still Winning

[Cormactopia Prime]

Well a brief update on the lumernati sitiation,
Over the past few hours we crossed into triple digit endorsements on the delegate. I think it's safe to say this occupation ain't moving till we're ready for it to move to the Rejected Realms.

Fixed.

[Clintonomore]

Well a brief update on the lumernati sitiation,
Over the past few hours we crossed into triple digit endorsements on the delegate. I think it's safe to say this occupation ain't moving till we're ready for it to move.

Total refound. xD

[Cerian Quilor]

Well a brief update on the lumernati sitiation,
Over the past few hours we crossed into triple digit endorsements on the delegate. I think it's safe to say this occupation ain't moving till we're ready for it to move to the Rejected Realms.

Fixed.

Why on earth would they want TRR? They can't have any fun there.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Why on earth would they want TRR? They can't have any fun there.

Beats me. It's not like this would be the first time, so why did other raiders* want it?

They have over 100 pilers. There is no reason for that, at all, except attempting to take the Rejected Realms, and you can't convince me that isn't the goal when the Rejected Realms is also smack in the middle of a Delegate transition, and when Europeia is not participating in the operation.

* And yes, before I get a wall of text, I am aware that The New Inquisition wasn't a raider region and wanted to invade the Rejected Realms because The New Inquisition was at war with the Founderless Regions Alliance. Raiders invaded the Rejected Realms long before The New Inquisition did in 2011 and I was referring to those raiders.

[Sygian II]

Why on earth would they want TRR? They can't have any fun there.

Beats me. It's not like this would be the first time, so why did other raiders* want it?

They have over 100 pilers. There is no reason for that, at all, except attempting to take the Rejected Realms, and you can't convince me that isn't the goal when the Rejected Realms is also smack in the middle of a Delegate transition, and when Europeia is not participating in the operation.

* And yes, before I get a wall of text, I am aware that The New Inquisition wasn't a raider region and wanted to invade the Rejected Realms because The New Inquisition was at war with the Founderless Regions Alliance. Raiders invaded the Rejected Realms long before The New Inquisition did in 2011 and I was referring to those raiders.

Congratulations on discovering our diabolical plan. We are going to burn a 4+ month WA sleeper so we can tag and hold TRR for an update or two.

Rai would kill me if I told him that was the plan. Shh!

[Cormactopia Prime]

Congratulations on discovering our diabolical plan. We are going to burn a 4+ month WA sleeper so we can tag and hold TRR for an update or two.

Rai would kill me if I told him that was the plan. Shh!

Does attempting to invade the Rejected Realms preclude first having your fun in Illuminati? It's not like you're going to successfully lock down Illuminati and refound it; the Security Council will liberate it as soon as it even looks like you're going to do that.

[Cerian Quilor]

Congratulations on discovering our diabolical plan. We are going to burn a 4+ month WA sleeper so we can tag and hold TRR for an update or two.

Rai would kill me if I told him that was the plan. Shh!

Does attempting to invade the Rejected Realms preclude first having your fun in Illuminati? It's not like you're going to successfully lock down Illuminati and refound it; the Security Council will liberate it as soon as it even looks like you're going to do that.

Regions have been refounded even while liberated (admittedly it is somewhat harder). Indeed, I think TBH has done that.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Congratulations on discovering our diabolical plan. We are going to burn a 4+ month WA sleeper so we can tag and hold TRR for an update or two.

Rai would kill me if I told him that was the plan. Shh!

Does attempting to invade the Rejected Realms preclude first having your fun in Illuminati? It's not like you're going to successfully lock down Illuminati and refound it; the Security Council will liberate it as soon as it even looks like you're going to do that.

You say that like half the government at the time of the raid as well as the entire rival region made of ex-government folks hasn't literally thanked us for raiding it, and like the rest of the world doesn't largely have a hate-boner for the region already.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Regions have been refounded even while liberated (admittedly it is somewhat harder). Indeed, I think TBH has done that.

Sure, it's been attempted, and accomplished once or twice. But that still doesn't explain the 100+ pilers, the absence of Europeia (which has agreed by treaty not to participate in the invasion of any Feeder or Sinker), and the conveniently "coincidental" timing of this occurring while the Rejected Realms is in the middle of a Delegate transition.

Again, I'm not going to be convinced this is anything but what it very much appears to be.

You say that like half the government at the time of the raid as well as the entire rival region made of ex-government folks hasn't literally thanked us for raiding it, and like the rest of the world doesn't largely have a hate-boner for the region already.

You say that like it matters. You're not going to turn Illuminati over to the rival region or to the half of the government thanking you, even if you've told them you are, and even if they think you will. You're going to lock it down and keep it as a trophy for The Black Hawks. No matter how the region is regarded, there is no reason the Security Council should give that a stamp of approval, and it won't.

[Sygian II]

Does attempting to invade the Rejected Realms preclude first having your fun in Illuminati? It's not like you're going to successfully lock down Illuminati and refound it;

I guess I get to prove you wrong twice.

[Deladara]

Does attempting to invade the Rejected Realms preclude first having your fun in Illuminati? It's not like you're going to successfully lock down Illuminati and refound it;

I guess I get to prove you wrong twice.

Impossible! Cormac couldn't possibly be wrong! Let alone twice

[Cerian Quilor]

I didn't realize inaction was a stamp of approval.

EDIT: Plus, Europeia has a longstanding objection to participating in occupations that banject a lot of natives and aggressively refound. Just as likely an explanation as your paranoid fantasies about TBH caring so much about TRR.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I didn't realize inaction was a stamp of approval.

EDIT: Plus, Europeia has a longstanding objection to participating in occupations that banject a lot of natives and aggressively refound. Just as likely an explanation as your paranoid fantasies about TBH caring so much about TRR.

^that. Nondestrucive policy. Also, yeah, they know that we're not going to give them any refound, and they still said please do, just make sure Rhyphix never has it again. They apparently *really* don't like the dude.

[Cormactopia Prime]

I didn't realize inaction was a stamp of approval.

Inaction is a tacit stamp of approval. Why else wouldn't the Security Council act as it normally would, if not because it tacitly approves of the invasion? Regardless, I've drafted a liberation resolution, so this discussion is probably better carried there since this isn't the Security Council forum.

Plus, Europeia has a longstanding objection to participating in occupations that banject a lot of natives and aggressively refound. Just as likely an explanation as your paranoid fantasies about TBH caring so much about TRR.

It may be just as likely, but does not explain why The Black Hawks have as many pilers as Disney has dalmatians, in the middle of a Delegate transition in the Rejected Realms. Taken in combination with those other factors, invasion of the Rejected Realms is the more likely reason for Europeia's absence from this occupation, though they may be absent because of their moderate raiding policies as well.

[Cerian Quilor]

I don't think you've been reading the thread, tbh, Cormac. Not everyone's life revolves around the GCRs.

[EnTgeisTerT]

What proof do you have of this, Cormac? I'd like to remind you that piles this big have occurred in the past, and they did not result in an invasion of TRR. TBH has no interest in holding TRR because we can't hold it long-term, and we'd have to abandon ship in Illuminati. Your fears are misplaced.

[Cormactopia Prime]

:eyebrow: I don't think you've been reading the thread, tbh, Cormac. Not everyone's life revolves around the GCRs.

I've been reading the thread, I just don't buy their story.

What proof do you have of this, Cormac? I'd like to remind you that piles this big have occurred in the past, and they did not result in an invasion of TRR. TBH has no interest in holding TRR because we can't hold it long-term, and we'd have to abandon ship in Illuminati. Your fears are misplaced.

This has already been said, and responded to. There is nothing to prevent you from sticking it out in Illuminati for as long as you're able to do so, then invading the Rejected Realms.

The last time a pile this big occurred, it was DEN (or possibly The Invaders, I can't remember which at this point). And they were planning to invade the Rejected Realms.

[McManniaa]

:eyebrow: I don't think you've been reading the thread, tbh, Cormac. Not everyone's life revolves around the GCRs.

I've been reading the thread, I just don't buy their story.

What proof do you have of this, Cormac? I'd like to remind you that piles this big have occurred in the past, and they did not result in an invasion of TRR. TBH has no interest in holding TRR because we can't hold it long-term, and we'd have to abandon ship in Illuminati. Your fears are misplaced.

This has already been said, and responded to. There is nothing to prevent you from sticking it out in Illuminati for as long as you're able to do so, then invading the Rejected Realms.

The last time a pile this big occurred, it was DEN (or possibly The Invaders, I can't remember which at this point). And they were planning to invade the Rejected Realms.

Or maybe you're just being paranoid

[Revall]

Or maybe you're just being paranoid

I doubt it in fact if I am following this nonexistent train of logic correctly TRR is the first in a line of GCR dominoes to fall on the way to TNP. If I were TNP I would be scared af of Rai, Souls and the whole crew of those winged miscreants.

[Dragoria]

But if they take over TRR then where will the uncooperative individuals they banject go to?

[Aimdar-Goomdar]

But if they take over TRR then where will the uncooperative individuals they banject go to?

TRR can't banject nor eject.

[Karafuto-cho]

Does attempting to invade the Rejected Realms preclude first having your fun in Illuminati? It's not like you're going to successfully lock down Illuminati and refound it; the Security Council will liberate it as soon as it even looks like you're going to do that.

Regions have been refounded even while liberated (admittedly it is somewhat harder). Indeed, I think TBH has done that.

Big Banks was liberated when HYDRA refounded it.

[Dragoria]

But if they take over TRR then where will the uncooperative individuals they banject go to?

TRR can't banject nor eject.

Well that's anticlimactic.

[Greyed]

There is literally no reason for us to hold TRR. Sure, we get to stick out an advertisement for us but the natives will probably get it back within the day. Not worth being WA locked for 4+ months. As for the delegate transition, have you ever heard of coincidences? They do happen you know. But if you spend sleepless nights worrying about the takeover of a GCR that won't happen, then fine, not our problem. We'll just sit over here while you worry about nothing

[Cormactopia Prime]

There is literally no reason for us to hold TRR. Sure, we get to stick out an advertisement for us but the natives will probably get it back within the day. Not worth being WA locked for 4+ months. As for the delegate transition, have you ever heard of coincidences? They do happen you know. But if you spend sleepless nights worrying about the takeover of a GCR that won't happen, then fine, not our problem. We'll just sit over here while you worry about nothing

I'm not worried about you holding the Rejected Realms.

I'm not particularly worried about you invading it either, I just think you're going to try. We'll see, I guess.