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by Lucklife » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:27 am
Commander-In-Chief Red Back
Colonel Miravana, Co-Overseer of Talon Corps
Major Steak, Co-Overseer of Talon Corps
Major Drexlore, Co-Overseer of Terra Corps
Lieutenant Lucklife, Co-Overseer of Terra Corps
Lieutenant Wascoitan, Overseer of Blade Corps
General Ever-Wandering Souls
Colonel Raionitu,
suisui wrote:"I have an idea"
Mikochi wrote:"No violence"
suisui wrote:"I no longer have an idea"
by Bendicion » Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:17 am
Chaotic Sparkles,c.2023 wrote:this was just one hamster that took on the world and that hamster has now been maintained as governor.
The Sapientia, c.2014 wrote:”You'll be back. Once you start , you can never stop”
LWU gtrf0129 c. 2022 wrote:This raid was so powerful that the power went out in my house lol
by Bendicion » Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:29 pm
Chaotic Sparkles,c.2023 wrote:this was just one hamster that took on the world and that hamster has now been maintained as governor.
The Sapientia, c.2014 wrote:”You'll be back. Once you start , you can never stop”
LWU gtrf0129 c. 2022 wrote:This raid was so powerful that the power went out in my house lol
by Bendicion » Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:50 pm
Chaotic Sparkles,c.2023 wrote:this was just one hamster that took on the world and that hamster has now been maintained as governor.
The Sapientia, c.2014 wrote:”You'll be back. Once you start , you can never stop”
LWU gtrf0129 c. 2022 wrote:This raid was so powerful that the power went out in my house lol
by Lucklife » Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:36 am
suisui wrote:"I have an idea"
Mikochi wrote:"No violence"
suisui wrote:"I no longer have an idea"
by New Astrian Outpost 8 » Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:21 am
by Malphe II » Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:11 am
New Astrian Outpost 8 wrote:i still think we should've uninvited steak 4 their awful awful opinions on steak. also fuck you mira hairless cats Are cute. despite these disagreements i am having fun at the bbq i hope we can host more bbqs together in the future
by Lucklife » Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:18 pm
Participants | Hits - 6 |
Barbaria (188 Days) Fifth Empire (465 Days) United Fascist Workers Association (208 Days) The Region of Warsaw (107 Days) Dixie (34 Days) Union of Nationalists (30 Days) Total: 1032 Days of Problematic Streaks |
Participants | Hits - 11 |
The Three Isles (33 Days) Asterya (12 Days) Chicken Overlords (579 Days) Unidos Brasileiros (85 Days) United Christian Empires of the West (579 Days) The Finntopian Region of Doom (85 Days) United Fascist Workers Association (7 Days) Montrandecs Neighbours (29 Days) Dixie (7 Days) Saint Osmund (114 Days) Roma Invicta (44 Days) Total: 1574 Days of Problematic Streaks |
suisui wrote:"I have an idea"
Mikochi wrote:"No violence"
suisui wrote:"I no longer have an idea"
by Saint Osmund » Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:42 pm
by Lucklife » Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:05 am
Saint Osmund wrote:Just for clarity, the Republic of Saint Osmund is not a member of the Free Bloc nor does it maintain any relations to The Free Bloc beyond a gameside embassy.
suisui wrote:"I have an idea"
Mikochi wrote:"No violence"
suisui wrote:"I no longer have an idea"
by New Astrian Outpost 8 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 12:12 am
by Quebecshire » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:21 am
Lucklife wrote:Saint Osmund wrote:Just for clarity, the Republic of Saint Osmund is not a member of the Free Bloc nor does it maintain any relations to The Free Bloc beyond a gameside embassy.
Then my apologies for the somewhat rough handling of your delegate. Your region was marked as a supporter of TFB for that embassy. I recommend you to sever all ties, including that gameside embassy.
Their last embassy post to you was an invitation to their discord, which is where most of the unsavoury stuff is happening. If you have any citizens in there, I recommend pulling them out too.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Varanius » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:06 am
Quebecshire wrote:Lucklife wrote:
Then my apologies for the somewhat rough handling of your delegate. Your region was marked as a supporter of TFB for that embassy. I recommend you to sever all ties, including that gameside embassy.
Their last embassy post to you was an invitation to their discord, which is where most of the unsavoury stuff is happening. If you have any citizens in there, I recommend pulling them out too.
Since your report notes that the problematic elements in TFB’s server were recent discoveries, was any level of outreach performed to inform people and encourage disassociation, or did you decide to take the "shoot first" approach?
This isn’t even meant as a gotcha. Newer and less experienced players who don’t know what’s going on in that server or aren’t familiar with conduct standards on NS are much more likely to listen to you and make productive change if you bring it up before attacking their region.
Angeloid Astraea wrote:I can't think of anyone that creates controversy out of nothing better than you!
Excidium Planetis wrote:Yeah, if you could enlighten me as to why you're such an asshole, that would be great.
Koth wrote:Vara is such a dedicated hater, it's impressive
Mlakhavia wrote:Vara isn't a gameplay personality, he's a concentrated ball of spite
by Xoriet » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:09 am
Quebecshire wrote:Lucklife wrote:
Then my apologies for the somewhat rough handling of your delegate. Your region was marked as a supporter of TFB for that embassy. I recommend you to sever all ties, including that gameside embassy.
Their last embassy post to you was an invitation to their discord, which is where most of the unsavoury stuff is happening. If you have any citizens in there, I recommend pulling them out too.
Since your report notes that the problematic elements in TFB’s server were recent discoveries, was any level of outreach performed to inform people and encourage disassociation, or did you decide to take the "shoot first" approach?
This isn’t even meant as a gotcha. Newer and less experienced players who don’t know what’s going on in that server or aren’t familiar with conduct standards on NS are much more likely to listen to you and make productive change if you bring it up before attacking their region.
by Quebecshire » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:19 am
Varanius wrote:Quebecshire wrote:Since your report notes that the problematic elements in TFB’s server were recent discoveries, was any level of outreach performed to inform people and encourage disassociation, or did you decide to take the "shoot first" approach?
This isn’t even meant as a gotcha. Newer and less experienced players who don’t know what’s going on in that server or aren’t familiar with conduct standards on NS are much more likely to listen to you and make productive change if you bring it up before attacking their region.
This is plainly beneath you, Quebec. With the sort of things that were in that server, that we know were in that server? Any natives of the place overlooking that to instead complain about their region being raided are just as deserving of the boot as the people who said it. Region destruction is a valid and justified response to associating with that ilk, regardless of whether or not they “shot first”.
Xoriet wrote:This should be a good wake up call to these people, frankly. Many of the regions post-raid and post-reviewing the evidence chose to leave The Free Bloc.
Xoriet wrote:Furthermore, given that gunboat diplomacy has never been considered an issue where OOC problematic matters are concerned when other people do it, making an issue of this now because it's TBH seems political.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Onionist Randosia » Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:54 pm
Quebecshire wrote:Since your report notes that the problematic elements in TFB’s server were recent discoveries, was any level of outreach performed to inform people and encourage disassociation, or did you decide to take the "shoot first" approach?
This isn’t even meant as a gotcha. Newer and less experienced players who don’t know what’s going on in that server or aren’t familiar with conduct standards on NS are much more likely to listen to you and make productive change if you bring it up before attacking their region.
by WayNeacTia » Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:47 pm
Quebecshire wrote:But especially when it comes to regions just having on-site embassies with the place, outreach beforehand is ideal (speaking of, thank you to the two people who answered my question on their role in outreach off-site instead of sniping at me).
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Quebecshire » Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:08 pm
Onionist Randosia wrote:Quebecshire wrote:Since your report notes that the problematic elements in TFB’s server were recent discoveries, was any level of outreach performed to inform people and encourage disassociation, or did you decide to take the "shoot first" approach?
This isn’t even meant as a gotcha. Newer and less experienced players who don’t know what’s going on in that server or aren’t familiar with conduct standards on NS are much more likely to listen to you and make productive change if you bring it up before attacking their region.
As far as I am aware, there was no outreach conducted by TCB or TBH or any coalition members whatsoever, although it would have been easy for them to do so because Iota/New Astri was a member of the TFB discord. I would not be that surprised if many regions were not aware of the stuff that was going on, because I have been a member of the TFB discord since March or April and I cannot recall actually seeing any of the stuff shown in the album aside from the ‘kys’ stuff (which is like actually a common meme/insult these days, not entirely sure why the Coalition forces even bothered to put it in the folder). TFB discord is very active most of the time, and as far as I know the entire moderation team lives in Europe so there would inevitably end up being blank spots, regardless of how cursed their sleep schedules are. It would very much have been nice if outreach was conducted so we could actually have stopped this stuff without being at gunpoint.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Lucklife » Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:09 pm
Quebecshire wrote:Varanius wrote:This is plainly beneath you, Quebec. With the sort of things that were in that server, that we know were in that server? Any natives of the place overlooking that to instead complain about their region being raided are just as deserving of the boot as the people who said it. Region destruction is a valid and justified response to associating with that ilk, regardless of whether or not they “shot first”.
Oh, I agree completely that any region in that bloc that knows what's going on in there can burn. More power to TBH and co in burning them. Have a blast doing it.
But especially when it comes to regions just having on-site embassies with the place, outreach beforehand is ideal (speaking of, thank you to the two people who answered my question on their role in outreach off-site instead of sniping at me)
suisui wrote:"I have an idea"
Mikochi wrote:"No violence"
suisui wrote:"I no longer have an idea"
by Saint Osmund » Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:35 pm
Lucklife wrote:Quebecshire wrote:Oh, I agree completely that any region in that bloc that knows what's going on in there can burn. More power to TBH and co in burning them. Have a blast doing it.
But especially when it comes to regions just having on-site embassies with the place, outreach beforehand is ideal (speaking of, thank you to the two people who answered my question on their role in outreach off-site instead of sniping at me)
Hi Quebec, I read your post, and there are a few things I want to bring up and clarify.
First, the region The Free Bloc, is not a normal region. It is an embassy hub for members, and only members are granted an embassy with it. Everyone with an embassy with it, has made it onto the member list, with a few of them not being on due to them being constructed recently, or administrative oversight, as the dispatch is not updated round the clock. It is no stretch to thereby assume that everyone in it has some level of direct involvement in TFB
Secondly, though Saint Osmund claims to not be in TFB, they were extended the same courtesy as member regions, with a RMB welcome post by The Free Bloc and an invitation to join the TFB discord.
Even one of TFB's key leaders, So Pep, says here that he was under the belief that Saint Osmund was a TFB region.
Lastly, Saint Osmund's founder himself, JL on discord, was also in the server.
He had the same access as normal members, saw the same things, and did not think much of it until the shots were fired.
Though Saint Osmund may seem like an innocent region caught in the crossfire, the reality is that they were treated as any other member region, knew as much as the other member regions, and were as involved as a normal region in TFB.
I have talked it out with the founder himself on discord, and we have settled it there, civilly and without any confrontation.
I hope this satisfies you, Quebec.
by New Astri » Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:46 pm
Onionist Randosia wrote:As far as I am aware, there was no outreach conducted by TCB or TBH or any coalition members whatsoever, although it would have been easy for them to do so because Iota/New Astri was a member of the TFB discord. I would not be that surprised if many regions were not aware of the stuff that was going on, because I have been a member of the TFB discord since March or April and I cannot recall actually seeing any of the stuff shown in the album aside from the ‘kys’ stuff (which is like actually a common meme/insult these days, not entirely sure why the Coalition forces even bothered to put it in the folder). TFB discord is very active most of the time, and as far as I know the entire moderation team lives in Europe so there would inevitably end up being blank spots, regardless of how cursed their sleep schedules are. It would very much have been nice if outreach was conducted so we could actually have stopped this stuff without being at gunpoint.
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