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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue May 01, 2018 12:38 pm

The Stalker wrote:Lol fair enough, I thought Fuex wanted the raid, but he only said raids would help it grow.

I still don't think it's worth defenders time to free it.


Not even worth the time to log into a nation that I made RO for them and do some ejections? What a low bar ;P
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Sylven
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Postby Sylven » Tue May 01, 2018 5:20 pm

So is the batter too cowardly to step up to the plate, or is the pitcher still pitching after the game is over?

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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue May 01, 2018 5:29 pm

Sylven wrote:So is the batter too cowardly to step up to the plate, or is the pitcher still pitching after the game is over?

<3

The batter is probably off dinking around in Lazarus and/or UoCR, and the pitcher is starting a new game :lol:

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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue May 01, 2018 5:59 pm

Sylven wrote:So is the batter too cowardly to step up to the plate, or is the pitcher still pitching after the game is over?

<3


The home team quit halfway through the series, and abandoned the fans. The visitors remain on the field, hoping they return.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

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The Sapientia
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Postby The Sapientia » Tue May 01, 2018 6:31 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Sylven wrote:So is the batter too cowardly to step up to the plate, or is the pitcher still pitching after the game is over?

<3


The home team quit halfway through the series, and abandoned the fans. The visitors remain on the field, hoping they return.


I can't tell whose who at this point
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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue May 01, 2018 6:44 pm

The Sapientia wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
The home team quit halfway through the series, and abandoned the fans. The visitors remain on the field, hoping they return.


I can't tell whose who at this point


we’re the jethawks. Single A ball.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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Miravana
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Miravana » Wed May 02, 2018 8:10 am

Congrats to the black hawks. Holding a region that will ultimately lead to nothing, and then boasting about defeated the EUF because it was not a liberation run by AIR. In fact, the first run was conducted purely by the EUF with no communication made to AIR, followed by a second run where we decided to help them, but then they didn't show up. All I see it as is good practice for the AIR soldiers who showed up to help the apparently non-existent EUF forces.
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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed May 02, 2018 8:27 am

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@mirvana “defeated” would imply we did anything to win. Like pile. Or eject people before update. We haven’t beat liberations, they’ve failed miserably on their own.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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Miravana
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Postby Miravana » Wed May 02, 2018 9:14 am

Ok my bad. Congrats to the black hawks. Holding a region that will ultimately lead to nothing, and then boasting about not doing anything while the EUF failed because it was not a liberation run by AIR.
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed May 02, 2018 9:25 am

Miravana wrote:Ok my bad. Congrats to the black hawks. Holding a region that will ultimately lead to nothing, and then boasting about not doing anything while the EUF failed because it was not a liberation run by AIR.

Ah yes, as if this is the only thread in which 'stupid things' are 'boasted about' ;)

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Malphe
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Postby Malphe » Wed May 02, 2018 9:31 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
Miravana wrote:Ok my bad. Congrats to the black hawks. Holding a region that will ultimately lead to nothing, and then boasting about not doing anything while the EUF failed because it was not a liberation run by AIR.

Ah yes, as if this is the only thread in which 'stupid things' are 'boasted about' ;)

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Miravana
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Postby Miravana » Wed May 02, 2018 9:48 am

Lord Dominator wrote:
Miravana wrote:Ok my bad. Congrats to the black hawks. Holding a region that will ultimately lead to nothing, and then boasting about not doing anything while the EUF failed because it was not a liberation run by AIR.

Ah yes, as if this is the only thread in which 'stupid things' are 'boasted about' ;)

The boasting was less of the problem, more of incorrectly calling it a failed AIR op. It wasn't AIR.
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Sylven
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Postby Sylven » Wed May 02, 2018 12:15 pm

I wasn't attacking TBH... just found it amusing (and thought y'all might too) how people on one side of GP are giggling like a pile of trolls about how ridiculous this challenge thing is while others think Souls is being totally classy.
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Postby Syberis » Wed May 02, 2018 1:10 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Sylven wrote:So is the batter too cowardly to step up to the plate, or is the pitcher still pitching after the game is over?

<3


The home team quit halfway through the series, and abandoned the fans. The visitors remain on the field, hoping they return.


The sun has gone down and the moon has come up
And long ago somebody left with the cup
But he's striving and driving and hugging the turns
And thinking of someone for whom he still burns
I've finally found what I was looking for
A place where I can be without remorse
Because I am a stranger who has found
An even stranger war

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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed May 02, 2018 1:25 pm

Syberis wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
The home team quit halfway through the series, and abandoned the fans. The visitors remain on the field, hoping they return.


The sun has gone down and the moon has come up
And long ago somebody left with the cup
But he's striving and driving and hugging the turns
And thinking of someone for whom he still burns


If Altmoras = fastest man alive = speed, then what’s “the distance?”
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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The Glorious Hypetrain
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Postby The Glorious Hypetrain » Thu May 03, 2018 5:41 am

Is it too early to submit a nomination for worst lib of the year in gameplay awards? :p
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Going the Distance
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Postby Going the Distance » Thu May 03, 2018 12:25 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Syberis wrote:
The sun has gone down and the moon has come up
And long ago somebody left with the cup
But he's striving and driving and hugging the turns
And thinking of someone for whom he still burns


If Altmoras = fastest man alive = speed, then what’s “the distance?”


Sorry if I'm a bit late.

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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu May 03, 2018 1:15 pm

Going the Distance wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
If Altmoras = fastest man alive = speed, then what’s “the distance?”


Sorry if I'm a bit late.


You left me all alone, all alone, all alone in a time of need. >:(
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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Harenhime
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Founded: Jul 26, 2014
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Harenhime » Thu May 03, 2018 5:34 pm

A selection of fine quotes on Iran, for your browsing pleasure:

On Iran getting raided:
Ike wrote:There's no excuse for this. Defenders didn't do enough to protect it, now it's gone. Would be nice to see some leadership get in here and explain either why we left Iran to its devices, or acknowledge that defending is in serious need of an increase in manpower.




On making Iran safe again:
Roavin wrote:[for raiders to leave Iran] all that is needed is a bit of patience.




On piling Iran "too high:"
Guy wrote:It's a game. If your enjoyment of the game is by winning, rather than having a competitive and challenging fight, your conception of an ideal R/D game (one in which raiders win) doesn't matter too much. You might as well set your FIFA to the lowest difficulty, and have at it - same effect.

A defender has literally been an RO for almost this entire raid, Guy. I think it's the defenders who have it on the lowest difficulty now, and they're still not winning.



On the end of the initial occupation:
"Roavin"]Your totally awesome and absolutely crushing dig at defenders is, given the general influence situation in that region, a minor inconvenience at worst.

Hm, so if it's such a minor inconvenience, why were our nations not even removed when defenders took the delegacy again?



A Warden on the initial Lib and subsequent month-long hold of the region:
Fauxia wrote:It was the day of January 25, 2018. The Security Council was voting on a proposal, "Liberate Iran". The discrepancy in the voting made it clear that it would soon become SC#241, as it was on track to pass with over 90% support. Defenders, aware that its passage would leave Iran, a region devoid of actual natives, defenseless against raider forces, began to stir and planned for Iran's defense.

They would not neglect their duties. On the final day of voting, January 25th, former officer in both the 10000 Islands Treaty Organization (TITO) and former Grey Warden Commander Lenlyvit created a discord server dedicated to the defender response to the liberation, entitled "Operation Irani Freedom". Lenlyvit then began to invite defenders into the server. At the beginning, he invited SWORD operatives, notably founder South Asians and Chancellor Crystalsummer. Prior to the midnight major update and the official passage of the resolution, other defenders, such as Roavin, then of the Grey Wardens, began to join the server.

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Altmoras still holds the Delegacy at the time of this article's writing, indicating that the defenders intend to keep protecting Iran until it can protect itself, or default to some other long term goal.

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The defenders have intended to keep the region safe.

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Did defenders just deploy valuable piling units to a region with only one known native, only to see the region sink into the depths of inactivity?

Seems better plans were needed. These have been quite neglected, after all. All the world's fendas and all the world's plans couldn't put Iran back together again? And the answer to that final question, I guess, sounds like "yes."



On what will be done for Iran:
Tim wrote:Realistically, I imagine we're looking at a prolonged piler deployment to remove invader nations coupled with an active search for natives of the region that are still present on the game. Then, depending on the wishes of the legitimate native community, you're either looking at them existing in a Liberated state or a repeal of this liberation so as to enable legitimate natives to password and refound via the help of defenders.

Where's that help of defenders these days?



From the lib itself:
The Lib wrote:Believing that this honored council has failed the community of Iran and ought to do everything in its power to promote security, growth and stability in the region to correct this wrong,

Encouraging interested parties to ensure the security of the region upon the passing of this resolution so that a community can develop,

Seems like ultimately, the SC has failed Iran again. Little has been done to promote those things, or to ensure the security of the region. Or, no parties have been interested.



On the lib:
Lenly wrote:All this will do is cause the region and community to be attacked over and over again by raider orgs, causing more harm than the password itself.

You somewhat took this quote back after hearing more of Iran's past. In the end, seems like it was accurate after all.



Harenhime hopes you have enjoyed this sampling of historical quotations on the situation of Iran.
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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu May 03, 2018 10:07 pm

New poll, "Why haven't defenders libbed Iran," is now up!
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Fri May 04, 2018 4:56 am

In honor of May the Fourth:

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TG me anytime; I'm always happy to talk about anything!

The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sat May 05, 2018 4:16 pm

Congratulations to the Mexican army defenders for their underdog overdue victory over France us!! Finally made use of that RO, eh? I seem to recall that France ended up occupying Mexico after that for a few years anyways. Curious to see how this Cinco de Mayo plays out xD
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TG me anytime; I'm always happy to talk about anything!

The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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Harenhime
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Founded: Jul 26, 2014
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Harenhime » Sat May 05, 2018 10:33 pm

But wait...

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Haren Hime
Real name no gimmicks

The raider endos go in the region,
in the region, in the region
The raider endos go in the region,
in the region, in the region

Guess who's back, back again
Jay is back, tell a friend

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Pro tip: influence takes quite a few days to degrade seriously. If you're gonna spend half yours ejecting people, it's smart to ensure they stay out more than 24 hours!


...

The fendas have taken the field, at last! Altmoras steps up to the plate, ready to whack some balls. And hits he hits! One, two, three, four, five, six runs! How's that even possible?! Who knows! After that, the refs decided the top of the inning was over, and the defenders took the field...or tried to. With Iranamerica catching and Altmoras on the mound, there were but two fielders! Borovan guarded first, with Hired Contractor on third. And boy, did they try...but the Hawks came to the plate ready to exploit the giant gaps created with only 4 defensive players, and took back the lead with a series of easy-to-field but hard-to-run-to ground balls. And that's the bottom! Stay tuned for the second inning!

(For sylven)

...
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Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton
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Ex-Nation

Postby Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton » Sat May 05, 2018 10:52 pm

I like how this poll option sounds like an actual Vinny puppet: "After taking over as First Warden, Vinny pulled TGW out of the TERRIBLE Iran deal"

Also sad face Altmoras influence graph is great.
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RiderSyl
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Ex-Nation

Postby RiderSyl » Sun May 06, 2018 3:40 am

Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton wrote:I like how this poll option sounds like an actual Vinny puppet: "After taking over as First Warden, Vinny pulled TGW out of the TERRIBLE Iran deal"


That's actually why I voted for it :lol:
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