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by Comfed » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:24 am
Kyorgia wrote:lol what a bullshit statement. No one should be shocked by TBHs infringement on GCR sovereignty by now.
by Unibot III » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:34 am
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Lord Dominator » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:36 am
Unibot III wrote:Why not just own up to it at this point?
by Unibot III » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:59 am
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Lord Dominator » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:10 pm
Unibot III wrote:Lord Dominator wrote:You're thinking from the perspective that the actual actions were authorized by Council in the first place.
In seventeen years of NS, I'm not sure there's ever been an attack on a GCR that's ever been officially authorized. Were any of the other attacks on TSP by TBH authorized by Council? I'm not asking rhetorically, I don't know the answer - I'm retired and cranky.
by Sail Nation » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:25 pm
by Frenchy II » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:32 pm
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:52 pm
Lord Dominator wrote:Unibot III wrote:
In seventeen years of NS, I'm not sure there's ever been an attack on a GCR that's ever been officially authorized. Were any of the other attacks on TSP by TBH authorized by Council? I'm not asking rhetorically, I don't know the answer - I'm retired and cranky.
This one was not, my understanding is that the Red Phone ones were technically not (though I'm not clear on the precise operations of that, and his position in TBH likely makes that distinction moot), and anything other than that I have no information.
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Drop Your Pants » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:05 pm
by RiderSyl » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:18 pm
Drop Your Pants wrote:Does TBH go for demotions these days (I know some defender groups used to do them, not sure about raider) or is it more a slap on the wrist and don't get caught again?
by Twobagger » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:23 pm
Comfed wrote:If that's the case, then I would like every TITO tactical officer ever to be PNGed for all the spying XKI does in TBH.
Lord Dominator wrote: Defender of the Year: Twobagger
Defender Awards 2019 wrote:The Sir Lans Award
[...]
The winner of the Award this year is Twobagger of the Ten Thousand Islands Treaty Organisation (TITO), who has willingly assisted in so many operations regardless of the region leading them. Congratulations Twobagger!
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Twobagger: +15 For Tactical Genius
by Unibot III » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:42 pm
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Lord Dominator wrote:This one was not, my understanding is that the Red Phone ones were technically not (though I'm not clear on the precise operations of that, and his position in TBH likely makes that distinction moot), and anything other than that I have no information.
Can confirm that me griping about tsp and wishing emptily for their demise while ignoring mcmannia's shenanigans in the background was not explicitly council approved. Because, yknow, i didn't actually do anything but complain and daydream. In fact, a whole ass court case in TSP couldn't prove I actually did anything , hence my ban being overturned while other were upheld. Turns out that bitching without any intention of acting ain't an attack. Server was known to council, tho. I'm not aware of any other non archaic "attacks on TSP" offhand?? Am I forgetting something?
Other than that, can confirm unibot is stupidly wrong about gcr attacks vis à vis the extremely premeditated attack on TP. Remember that one? Past that we generally have decided as Council to stay out of things, like laz and others.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Goobergunchia » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:29 pm
Unibot III wrote:Actually that’s fair, there *were* a lot of publicly authorized attacks on Francos’ NPO regime. Not sure if that’s very relevant here, but it’s true. My point was usually orgs don’t take credit for subverting GCRs - TBH rarely has, most don’t.
by Unibot III » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:31 pm
Goobergunchia wrote:Unibot III wrote:Actually that’s fair, there *were* a lot of publicly authorized attacks on Francos’ NPO regime. Not sure if that’s very relevant here, but it’s true. My point was usually orgs don’t take credit for subverting GCRs - TBH rarely has, most don’t.
Considering that said regime was not the legitimate regional government, it hardly falls in the same category. One could say the same thing about UPS Rail and Great Bight's delegacies in TNP.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:57 pm
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:08 am
by Nova Vandalia » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:01 am
by RiderSyl » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:33 pm
Nova Vandalia wrote:"I too am upset at this encroachment on Regional Sovereignty,so I will also come in here and tell you how to run your region, and criticize you all until you do as I ask, as though there is a distinction between trying to control a region and ...trying to control a region"
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:26 pm
Nova Vandalia wrote:"I too am upset at this encroachment on Regional Sovereignty,so I will also come in here and tell you how to run your region, and criticize you all until you do as I ask, as though there is a distinction between trying to control a region and ...trying to control a region"
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Klaus Devestatorie » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:07 am
Nova Vandalia wrote:"I too am upset at this encroachment on Regional Sovereignty,so I will also come in here and tell you how to run your region, and criticize you all until you do as I ask, as though there is a distinction between trying to control a region and ...trying to control a region"
by WayNeacTia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:23 am
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:While I'm sure TBH leadership probably couldn't be stuffed to undertake any kind of action like this in any feeder, nevermind TSP, it would be a lot more believable if the same TBH leadership was prepared to issue or enforce publicly visible consequences against those responsible.
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Nova Vandalia » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:53 am
RiderSyl wrote:Nova Vandalia wrote:"I too am upset at this encroachment on Regional Sovereignty, so I will also come in here and tell you how to run your region, and criticize you all until you do as I ask, as though there is a distinction between trying to control a region and ...trying to control a region"
those who seek accountability are really just trying to control your region!
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