The Black Hawks | Still Winning

[Malphe]

I like how this poll option sounds like an actual Vinny puppet: "After taking over as First Warden, Vinny pulled TGW out of the TERRIBLE Iran deal"

Also sad face Altmoras influence graph is great.

Needs to be in full caps.

[Vulturret]

General, there’s umpires in baseball, not refs lol.

[Bedetopia]

General, there’s umpires in baseball, not refs lol.

Umpire is a weird word.

[Old Hope]

Why should defenders care about Iran?
It is a dead region.

[Malphe]

Why should defenders care about Iran?
It is a dead region.

Hasn't stopped them before.

[North Prarie]

Before TBH raided Iran, it had 18 people in it. 18. It was just another tag. So I don't see why the Hawks are shoving it in defender's faces. Okay, we didn't succeed on a detag. Who cares? It's not like it's Lazarus.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

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Before TBH raided Iran, it had 18 people in it. 18. It was just another tag. So I don't see why the Hawks are shoving it in defender's faces. Okay, we didn't succeed on a detag. Who cares? It's not like it's Lazarus.

Wrong. The raid was the March population jump, ala the second spike. There were 50-70 prior to our arrival. There were 18 when it was liberated, then the defenders occupied it for a month, decided who the real natives were, put them in power, yada yada. There’s some nice TRT articles on it you can read, which I excerpted quotes from on the prior page, that talk about how they’re going to ensure the region is safely self governed. Then we stole it from their active occultation, becuase their pile was only about 20, 25ish nations. Held it for a couple weeks. Let it go. Have yet to be cleared out since, by natives or defenders, nor have defenders finished what they were doing back when we interrupted them, so Iran remains a warzone.

Frankly, if I’d wanted to make Iran’a situation worse, I couldn’t have done so by myself. A raider made lib never would have passed. And I say if, becuase throughout this, while a real-name region has been attractive, the fact that it’s a defensive fail has kept it more attractive. The relatively small size is why we’ve been doing it with the minimum amount of effort possible.

Hope that helps. I can go into more detail if you need. Would also recommend checking out the block of quotes on Iran on the prior page.

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I knew I was choking on a word! Umps, yes, my bad. Even got my bottom/top order right, but fucked that.

[Vulturret]

Notices thread title change.

[British National Liberalist]

I'm looking for a Rightist Invader group could you help me find one?

[Bedetopia]

I'm looking for a Rightist Invader group could you help me find one?

TBH isn't into political raiding. Besides, I urge you to reconsider because I think these ideological conflicts are bad for the game, and you have a high chance of stumbling upon incompetent fringe groups. You should raid for fun, and that's what TBH does.

[British National Liberalist]

Alright, I will

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

In the face of defenders continuing to ignore the region's plight, Iramerica appears to have abandoned Iran, leaving it with no notable natives.

If the world is unhappy with this outcome, remember: it was not just preventable, but very, very easily preventable, had the slightest effort been put in.

[Captain Albert Alexander Hamilton]

5/13 Minor

The Black Hawks decided to race through a bunch of regions to show off their speed. Somehow, all of the Hawks tied, but they got all the shiny things from the regions in the process.

Hawks
Major Captain Alexander
Sergeant Qonon
Corporal Trihydroxy
Private First Class Middle Albellalkhevillooder
Private First Class Benjabobaria
Private First Class Dieselvania
Private First Class The Liberated States of Cornwall

Hits
dezia
the_united_powers_of_foop
paradiso
the_worst_region
Union_of_Dolanetian_Dependencies
the_pacific_conglomerate
united_league_of_world_nations
the_christian_states
the_christian_states
west_hall_best_hall
the_empires_of_oiria
neutral
russia_ussr
midwest_states_of_mariah
die_mutterland
urbania

5/12 Major

Corporal Eriadni tried triggering for the first time.

Hawks
CPL Eriadni, Trigger (1st time!)
SGT Felt Karpit
CPL Arche-VerinGuard
PFC Middle Albellalkhevillooder
PFC Fire Eaters of Last Hope
PFC New Zavenia
And a helper vando0sa !

Hits
chan_nations
The_Island_of_Tharqcc
bandonia
Fritteria
The_Naturists
entity

[Neop]

You hit Neutral?!?! Not fair, I wasn't looking

[Blood Wine]

Hit the_christian_states so hard it did it twice

[Cormactopia Prime]

In the face of defenders continuing to ignore the region's plight, Iramerica appears to have abandoned Iran, leaving it with no notable natives.

If the world is unhappy with this outcome, remember: it was not just preventable, but very, very easily preventable, had the slightest effort been put in.

That's actually pretty sad, given that the Grey Wardens' current excuse is apparently that they're too busy raiding to be bothered with liberating Iran. Even if one is okay with defenders raiding raider regions, etc., shouldn't liberation of a region for its natives come first for a defender region?

[Harenhime]

In the face of defenders continuing to ignore the region's plight, Iramerica appears to have abandoned Iran, leaving it with no notable natives.

If the world is unhappy with this outcome, remember: it was not just preventable, but very, very easily preventable, had the slightest effort been put in.

That's actually pretty sad, given that the Grey Wardens' current excuse is apparently that they're too busy raiding to be bothered with liberating Iran. Even if one is okay with defenders raiding raider regions, etc., shouldn't liberation of a region for its natives come first for a defender region?

Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what even is being raided atm? Union of Confederate Regions has been cleared out for a while now. Wild Horde is ongoing but does not appear to have a large defender presence. Vinny's there, but not even endoing del. Conventist Federation, rounding that trifecta out, is untouched. AIR seems to be over in England, whoch was a guardian mission two prior, but that doesn't seem to have a warden presence ongoing. I don't see an excess of defender flags in Lazarus. The "current guardian mission" was detagged days ago. Even the chasing from defending has been dismal recently - 3ish people on a good day, with the most reliable one probably being Hired Contractor. No one is even bothering to take jabs at first-time triggers. We've had a ton of training and practice runs recently that once would have been easy fodder for inane mocking in the warden's thread, but their thread has not been bumped in a month and a half. Where is defending? There's no Predator to blame, and raiding is 100% at it's most fractured in recent history, with us shunning TI and TRE while some feeders continue to shun us without...well, that's another post. Point is, defenders should be dominating right now, by all means. And yet.

Hey, maybe I'm missing something, or they're doing the best deep cover job ever in The Monarchist whatever. But if defending hasn't been oddly dead recently, I must be missing something, somewhere.

[Tupelope]

ppl busy with rl shit and stuff bruh. that shit happens

[Safira (Ancient II)]

Where is defending? ...raiding is 100% at it's most fractured in recent history

The Lotka-Volterra model. A decline in raiding leads to a decline in defending, and it will remain this way until an inevitable surge in raiding leads to a subsequent surge in defending.

The harvest has just begun, so enjoy it while it lasts, for winter will always come.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Where is defending? ...raiding is 100% at it's most fractured in recent history

The Lotka-Volterra model. A decline in raiding leads to a decline in defending, and it will remain this way until an inevitable surge in raiding leads to a subsequent surge in defending.

The harvest has just begun, so enjoy it while it lasts, for winter will always come.

Way oversimplified. Fractured doesn’t mean we’ve been dead. Fractured means that operations are easier to take down due to smaller piles, and tag runs may be smaller due to less co-runs. Separately, activity has downticked somewhat due to exam season, but it definitely never died, and is already back on an uptick now that most college students are free. Also, historically inaccurate, heights of raiding have been blamed for defender lows, not credited for defender highs.

[Safira (Ancient II)]

The Lotka-Volterra model. A decline in raiding leads to a decline in defending, and it will remain this way until an inevitable surge in raiding leads to a subsequent surge in defending.

The harvest has just begun, so enjoy it while it lasts, for winter will always come.

Way oversimplified. Fractured doesn’t mean we’ve been dead. Fractured means that operations are easier to take down due to smaller piles, and tag runs may be smaller due to less co-runs. Separately, activity has downticked somewhat due to exam season, but it definitely never died, and is already back on an uptick now that most college students are free.

Yes it's a simplification, as all models are, but it's certainly not an oversimplification. In this context, decline doesn't mean death. It can mean a decline in population or activity, or absolute death, or anywhere in between. In this case, it means exactly what you mean.

Also, historically inaccurate, heights of raiding have been blamed for defender lows, not credited for defender highs.

No. Whoever taught you that was assuredly biased, since both factions are infamously known for exaggeration and disinformation. It's possible you're mistaking it for the proliferation of raiding while Defenders suffered from continuing disorganization from previous Raider inactivity. But it's rather intuitive. There's no such thing as defending without a thing called raiding. One comes after the other in every single regard. This was the way it was from the beginning.

[RiderSyl]

I'm pretty sure TGW is just going through a spell of inactivity due to other commitments within its ranks, and because defending is so reliant on TGW, everything else has ground to a halt.

Defenders are too centralized, IMO.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

@safira - ha. Heh.

I'm pretty sure TGW is just going through a spell of inactivity due to other commitments within its ranks, and because defending is so reliant on TGW, everything else has ground to a halt.

Defenders are too centralized, IMO.

What about The RRA? TITIO? SPSF? SDF? Or even Lily, who iirc swore to combat all of our operations going forwards? Assuming you're on point and TGW let themselves get into a funk, Is it really all nothing without TGW at the helm?

[Tupelope]

What about The RRA? TITIO? SPSF? SDF? Or even Lily, who iirc swore to combat all of our operations going forwards? Assuming you're on point and TGW let themselves get into a funk, Is it really all nothing without TGW at the helm?

RRA dead, TITO does what TITO does with TITO, SPSF is basically TGW with tagging, wtf is a SDF, liliarchy said LILY are raiders and liliarchy said liliarchy is busy with rl or somethin

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

What about The RRA? TITIO? SPSF? SDF? Or even Lily, who iirc swore to combat all of our operations going forwards? Assuming you're on point and TGW let themselves get into a funk, Is it really all nothing without TGW at the helm?

RRA dead, TITO does what TITO does with TITO, SPSF is basically TGW with tagging, wtf is a SDF, liliarchy said LILY are raiders and liliarchy said liliarchy is busy with rl or somethin

So what you’re saying is, The NPA, with its frequent detag runs of 4-6 people for the last couple months, is currently the height of defending?