The Black Hawks | Still Winning

[Imperium Anglorum]

I meant NPO, okay? Did I have to explicitly say that? sigh

I won't take any action against TWP, and ONLY TWP. I didn't say anything about everything else... including TWP's allies.

Considering that the Pacific Order is not the same as the West Pacific, yes.

[Nay-O-Bi]

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[Goto Mototsugu]

You didn't know the region Nazi Europa were Nazis?

DankMemes has not been in contact at all with Nazi Europa for nearly a month now.

And Adolf Eichmann had not killed a Jew for nearly 20 years when he was tried and executed. Does that mean he didn't deserve to die? Past crimes do not just go away. (I think the Nazi analogy is fitting here)

[Nay-O-Bi]

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[Roavin]

How many people are you taking on? I've genuinely lost count. All Raiders, TWP's allies, The NPO, 'Authortarianism', Common Sense, Basic Logic and Reality Itself. Did I miss anyone?

Hasn't said so yet but he managed to piss off defenders bad enough in September that they refused to liberate his region. So I'm guessing we're on the list there somewhere too.

[Goto Mototsugu]

And Adolf Eichmann had not killed a Jew for over nearly 20 years when he was tried and executed. Does that mean he didn't deserve to die? Past crimes do not just go away. (I think the Nazi analogy is fitting here)

Of course I admit that I used to be allied with Nazis. But the point I'm trying to make here is that I'm no longer allied with them, nor do I want to be allied with them.

Oh, please. I'm sure if you got puppet swept right now, you'd team up with just about anyone that would help to save your shit.

[Nay-O-Bi]

Hasn't said so yet but he managed to piss off defenders bad enough in September that they refused to liberate his region. So I'm guessing we're on the list there somewhere too.

No. I would want better relations, but your region hates me, so oh well.

Oh, please. I'm sure if you got puppet swept right now, you'd team up with just about anyone that would help to save your shit.

If I got puppet-swept, I'd accept it with full responsibility - I'm not going to resist that, as I trust the Moderator's rulings.

[Goto Mototsugu]

Hasn't said so yet but he managed to piss off defenders bad enough in September that they refused to liberate his region. So I'm guessing we're on the list there somewhere too.

No. I would want better relations, but your region hates me, so oh well.

With perfectly good reason. And it's not exactly a rare idea. Most of GP can't stand you. You're a comedy piece at most.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Just going to address the elephant in the room: You folks aren't taking the Rejected Realms.

I do hope the Feeders and Sinkers participating in this raid are aware that their forces may be used in an attempt to invade their sister Sinker, though. Why else accumulate 94 pilers in less than 24 hours, while a Delegate transition is ongoing in the Rejected Realms? We've all seen it before, and we'll see it again. It's clear what you're trying to do.

[Goto Mototsugu]

Hasn't said so yet but he managed to piss off defenders bad enough in September that they refused to liberate his region. So I'm guessing we're on the list there somewhere too.

No. I would want better relations, but your region hates me, so oh well.

Oh, please. I'm sure if you got puppet swept right now, you'd team up with just about anyone that would help to save your shit.

If I got puppet-swept, I'd accept it with full responsibility - I'm not going to resist that, as I trust the Moderator's rulings.

*sigh* I never said you could do shit about a mod ruling. Have you not passed any of your reading comprehension tests at school yet or something?

[Nay-O-Bi]

*sigh* I never said you could do shit about a mod ruling. Have you not passed any of your reading comprehension tests at school yet or something?

I mean, I'm not going to go to a DoS player and ask them to help me if I got puppet-swept.

[Cerian Quilor]

Just going to address the elephant in the room: You folks aren't taking the Rejected Realms.

I do hope the Feeders and Sinkers participating in this raid are aware that their forces may be used in an attempt to invade their sister Sinker, though. Why else accumulate 94 pilers in less than 24 hours, while a Delegate transition is ongoing in the Rejected Realms? We've all seen it before, and we'll see it again. It's clear what you're trying to do.

You really think TBH wants to invade TRR? God, why? TNI wanted to do it for, you know, war reasons, but TBH can't have any extended fun in TRR.

I mean, I don't speak for TBH, and maybe they want to do it for the accomplishment, but I don't think retreading TNI's Footsteps is high on their to-do list.*

*disclaimer: If TBH does do this, I retain all right to say I properly hedged my verbal bets with this statement.

EDIT: Also, can you please drop the 'Sister SInker' nonsense? Just because regions are all Sinkers or all GCRs doesn't make them inherently aligned or even in their interests to *be* aligned. There can be and should not be any sort of one-size fits all 'GCR Policy'.

[Clintonomore]

I'd like to say. The Napoleonic French Empire helped.

[Wisgothistan]

I'd commit treason to help with that!

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

First off, mind taking the TWP/La Navasse topic to a more relevant thread? Thanks folks

Just going to address the elephant in the room: You folks aren't taking the Rejected Realms.

I do hope the Feeders and Sinkers participating in this raid are aware that their forces may be used in an attempt to invade their sister Sinker, though. Why else accumulate 94 pilers in less than 24 hours, while a Delegate transition is ongoing in the Rejected Realms? We've all seen it before, and we'll see it again. It's clear what you're trying to do.

Perhaps to do some serious damage to a region with about 150,000 combined influence points? Not inviting Europeia for a big op is always a bit of a telltale for that note...

But sure, we had Rai locked for four months as a security officer in this region just so we could tag TRR for an update. Yep.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Also, can you please drop the 'Sister SInker' nonsense? Just because regions are all Sinkers or all GCRs doesn't make them inherently aligned or even in their interests to *be* aligned. There can be and should not be any sort of one-size fits all 'GCR Policy'.

For me to stop saying that would require me to agree with you in that regard, and I don't. Feeders and Sinkers should be able to agree that the sovereignty of any of their fellow Feeders and Sinkers should not be violated, and should not participate in violations of each other's sovereignty.

Perhaps to do some serious damage to a region with about 150,000 combined influence points? Not inviting Europeia for a big op is always a bit of a telltale for that note...

But sure, we had Rai locked for four months as a security officer in this region just so we could tag TRR for an update. Yep.

It's not like you're going to admit you're trying to invade the Rejected Realms in advance.

[Mallorea and Riva]

It's not like you're going to admit you're trying to invade the Rejected Realms in advance.

I would have.
*shrugs*

[Sygian II]

It's not like you're going to admit you're trying to invade the Rejected Realms in advance.

"It's not like we are going to lay out our whole operation strategy on the gameplay forums because that is what everyone does right?"

[Cerian Quilor]

Also, can you please drop the 'Sister SInker' nonsense? Just because regions are all Sinkers or all GCRs doesn't make them inherently aligned or even in their interests to *be* aligned. There can be and should not be any sort of one-size fits all 'GCR Policy'.

For me to stop saying that would require me to agree with you in that regard, and I don't. Feeders and Sinkers should be able to agree that the sovereignty of any of their fellow Feeders and Sinkers should not be violated, and should not participate in violations of each other's sovereignty.

Perhaps to do some serious damage to a region with about 150,000 combined influence points? Not inviting Europeia for a big op is always a bit of a telltale for that note...

But sure, we had Rai locked for four months as a security officer in this region just so we could tag TRR for an update. Yep.

It's not like you're going to admit you're trying to invade the Rejected Realms in advance.

What's special about Feeders and Sinkers apart from other regions, Cormac? There's only three things all GCRs share - they're large, founderless and don't need to recruit. Is there anything else all nine have in common? Trying to draw an arbitrary circle around the GCRs is just that, arbitrary. If all GCRs are obligated to inherently have a one-size fits all 'sovreignty' view on eachother, then the logical extension is that they should never invade any region... ever. Or be friendly with people who invade any region ever. Which, given that you're defender again, makes sense for you, but really, not really something you're likely to see.

Otherwise, they have to draw some sort of artificial line between GCRs and founderless UCRs... that doesn't really exist on the face of it.

[Cormactopia Prime]

What's special about Feeders and Sinkers apart from other regions, Cormac? There's only three things all GCRs share - they're large, founderless and don't need to recruit. Is there anything else all nine have in common? Trying to draw an arbitrary circle around the GCRs is just that, arbitrary. If all GCRs are obligated to inherently have a one-size fits all 'sovreignty' view on eachother, then the logical extension is that they should never invade any region... ever. Or be friendly with people who invade any region ever. Which, given that you're defender again, makes sense for you, but really, not really something you're likely to see.

Otherwise, they have to draw some sort of artificial line between GCRs and founderless UCRs... that doesn't really exist on the face of it.

I would have gone into more detail in my last post, but I don't want to threadjack. Happy to discuss this with you elsewhere.

[David Bowie Sandwich]

Yep. The Black Hawks are a backstabbing organization who first seem to work with you, but then end up raiding your own region.

No one should make them their ally - trust can't be found with them, or in general, with any raider organization, especially if your region is founderless. I'd think that if HYDRA Command became founderless, The Black Hawks would just raid and occupy it - no questions asked.

This is sad, ludicrous, and stupid.

Well thats never ever happening so its irrelevant. Hydra Command is eternal baby.

For those wondering it is I, McManniaa. That guy you know from that place, the one who stole the mini quiches

[Klaus Devestatorie]

I dunno why La Navasse thinks he can argue his way out of not understanding what's normal in gameplay. Oh well. Congratulations to TBH! Was a fun raid

[Clintonomore]

It's a fun raid indeed. I'm glad to be a part of it.

[Wickedly evil people]

This is a lot like a TWP thread, it wanders everywhere.


Personally I could care less about all the fenda - raider games, glad y'all have fun.


What BBD and the Badger said...

Cormac you're crazy to be giving them ideas about how to subvert Unibot's home turf like that, crazy reverse stratagem eh?

[Raionitu]

Well a brief update on the lumernati sitiation,
Over the past few hours we crossed into triple digit endorsements on the delegate. I think it's safe to say this occupation ain't moving till we're ready for it to move.