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EnTgeisTerT
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Postby EnTgeisTerT » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:18 am

The Black Hawks control the government!

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Twins of Hearts
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Postby Twins of Hearts » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:32 am

Game respects game. Good work over there!

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Postby LollerLand » Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:48 am

:clap: :clap:
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:01 am

Colour me extremely impressed!
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:13 pm

Yep. The Black Hawks are a backstabbing organization who first seem to work with you, but then end up raiding your own region.

No one should make them their ally - trust can't be found with them, or in general, with any raider organization, especially if your region is founderless. I'd think that if HYDRA Command became founderless, The Black Hawks would just raid and occupy it - no questions asked.

This is sad, ludicrous, and stupid.

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Sygian II
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Postby Sygian II » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:48 pm

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:Yep. The Black Hawks are a backstabbing organization who first seem to work with you, but then end up raiding your own region.

I am not quite sure what you mean by this, but if you are talking about Rai spending over 4 months in the region while posing as a native, earning their trust, obtaining border control access, etc... well you're not wrong. It's called dedication. ;)

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:No one should make them their ally - trust can't be found with them, or in general, with any raider organization, especially if your region is founderless. I'd think that if HYDRA Command became founderless, The Black Hawks would just raid and occupy it - no questions asked.

This is sad, ludicrous, and stupid.

Founderless regions that "trust" raiders are not smart (with the exception of TCB and NationStates).

If HYDRA Command went founderless, I'll yell at Mcmannia then probably send troops in to prevent it being taken over by defenders. So once again, you're not wrong, the framework of your argument is just terrible.

Anyway, Rai Vasentius, I love you and I love what you do. You're awesome, and this raid was incredible.
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Postby Jakker » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:49 pm

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:Yep. The Black Hawks are a backstabbing organization who first seem to work with you, but then end up raiding your own region.

No one should make them their ally - trust can't be found with them, or in general, with any raider organization, especially if your region is founderless. I'd think that if HYDRA Command became founderless, The Black Hawks would just raid and occupy it - no questions asked.

This is sad, ludicrous, and stupid.


I can guarantee you that we would raid DankMemes if their founder ever ceased to exist. ;)
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Postby Bedetopia » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:10 pm

Jakker wrote:I can guarantee you that we would raid DankMemes if their founder ever ceased to exist. ;)

I'd love to help you with that if the opportunity presents itself.
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Bhang Bhang Duc
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:20 pm

Jakker wrote:
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:Yep. The Black Hawks are a backstabbing organization who first seem to work with you, but then end up raiding your own region.

No one should make them their ally - trust can't be found with them, or in general, with any raider organization, especially if your region is founderless. I'd think that if HYDRA Command became founderless, The Black Hawks would just raid and occupy it - no questions asked.

This is sad, ludicrous, and stupid.


I can guarantee you that we would raid DankMemes if their founder ever ceased to exist. ;)

TWP would be there with you, no messing.
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Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.

RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.

Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:02 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:
Jakker wrote:
I can guarantee you that we would raid DankMemes if their founder ever ceased to exist. ;)

TWP would be there with you, no messing.

I personally would be there, probably with the RKA.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:07 pm

Jakker wrote:
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:Yep. The Black Hawks are a backstabbing organization who first seem to work with you, but then end up raiding your own region.

No one should make them their ally - trust can't be found with them, or in general, with any raider organization, especially if your region is founderless. I'd think that if HYDRA Command became founderless, The Black Hawks would just raid and occupy it - no questions asked.

This is sad, ludicrous, and stupid.


I can guarantee you that we would raid DankMemes if their founder ever ceased to exist. ;)

Now theres a raider operation I could actually support.
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Postby Maljaratas » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:11 pm

Cool Raid! :clap:
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Postby Aimdar-Goomdar » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:19 pm

Jakker wrote:I can guarantee you that we would raid DankMemes if their founder ever ceased to exist. ;)


I can guarantee you that won't happen.

Furthermore, I can guarantee that TWP won't be acting this cynical very soon.

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:37 pm

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:No one should make them their ally - trust can't be found with them, or in general, with any raider organization, especially if your region is founderless. I'd think that if HYDRA Command became founderless, The Black Hawks would just raid and occupy it - no questions asked..


You know I hear they have a history of it - anyone else remember TBR? Founderless, and TBH raided them! Evil bastards...
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Nay-O-Bi » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:47 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:No one should make them their ally - trust can't be found with them, or in general, with any raider organization, especially if your region is founderless. I'd think that if HYDRA Command became founderless, The Black Hawks would just raid and occupy it - no questions asked..


You know I hear they have a history of it - anyone else remember TBR? Founderless, and TBH raided them! Evil bastards...


And if that toxic atmosphere isn't cleaned up soon, we may end up having yet another Predator scandal... but this time with TBH...

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Postby Greyed » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:50 pm

:)
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Sygian II
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Postby Sygian II » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:51 pm

Nay-O-Bi wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
You know I hear they have a history of it - anyone else remember TBR? Founderless, and TBH raided them! Evil bastards...


And if that toxic atmosphere isn't cleaned up soon, we may end up having yet another Predator scandal... but this time with TBH...

*snort*

I just pissed my pants laughing.

Thanks for making my day! :bow:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates


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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:53 pm

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
Jakker wrote:I can guarantee you that we would raid DankMemes if their founder ever ceased to exist. ;)


I can guarantee you that won't happen.

Furthermore, I can guarantee that TWP won't be acting this cynical very soon.

You can guarantee that? Pretty cocky of you. Even if you manage to be like, the last nation to CTE when this website finally goes out with a whimper, or survive until Max Barry shuts the website down, there's always the chance of your nation being DEATed. And somehow, I doubt you'll last that long.

So now you're adding TWP to your list of regions and groups you're going to destroy somehow? Seriously? Who isn't on your enemies list at this pount?
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:02 pm

I'd like to give out some additional thanks to Osiris, Kantrias, and Albion for piling in on this amazing operation!
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Proud Raider; General of The Black Hawks, Ret.
TG me anytime; I'm always happy to talk about anything!

The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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Nay-O-Bi
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Postby Nay-O-Bi » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:05 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:So now you're adding TWP to your list of regions and groups you're going to destroy somehow? Seriously? Who isn't on your enemies list at this pount?

No. Oh my god...

Eliminating cynicalism cynicism doesn't eliminating the region, goodness!

Please don't make baseless assumptions.
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Karafuto-cho
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Postby Karafuto-cho » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:08 pm

Nay-O-Bi wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:So now you're adding TWP to your list of regions and groups you're going to destroy somehow? Seriously? Who isn't on your enemies list at this pount?

No. Oh my god...

Eliminating cynicalism doesn't eliminating the region, goodness!

Please don't make baseless assumptions.

1. Cynicalism isn't a word. It's cynicism.
2. You obviously have never met any of the oligarchy that rules TWP. They all have copious amounts of snark and cynicism. Are you implying that you will systematically eliminate every one of them? :shock:
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Sygian II
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Postby Sygian II » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:09 pm

Nay-O-Bi wrote:Please don't make baseless assumptions.

You can't be serious right now!

Please, stop with the jokes, my stomach is beginning to hurt from ROFLing.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates


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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:10 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:I'd like to give out some additional thanks to Osiris, Kantrias, and Albion for piling in on this amazing operation!

Happy to help you occupy the source of the black helicopters that try to rule us all. :P
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Nay-O-Bi
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Postby Nay-O-Bi » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:11 pm

Karafuto-cho wrote:2. You obviously have never met any of the oligarchy that rules TWP. They all have copious amounts of snark and cynicism. Are you implying that you will systematically eliminate every one of them? :shock:


I am NOT going to plan ANY military operations against TWP, okay???

Eliminating cynicism doesn't mean I'm going to take military action, or any action in fact, against TWP!

Oh my god...

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Big Bad Badger
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Big Bad Badger » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:11 pm

Aimdar-Goomdar wrote:
Jakker wrote:I can guarantee you that we would raid DankMemes if their founder ever ceased to exist. ;)


I can guarantee you that won't happen.

Furthermore, I can guarantee that TWP won't be acting this cynical very soon.


Young fella, the only disagreement TWP would have with the council of Hawks on this matter would be who gets to be point, trigger, and what the first line in the WFE would be. Furthermore, I would appreciate you expounding further the above guarantee (in your own thread of course) but be ready. TWP has been around for a long time and one thing we are known for is not suffering fools lightly.

Congratulations Black Hawks on this monumental mission! I am glad that we could assist you!
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