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Stalker Queen
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Postby Stalker Queen » Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:51 pm

Vadia wrote:
McMasterdonia wrote:Were you disappointed that DEN liberated a region under your control?


You are aware that region was founded by us right?

I have to say we are more disappointed that someone could do a DEN operation, that didn't seem aligned with DEN policy.

Also the raid was lead by KGB from what we can tell. They are mad that our invitations go to almost all nations on the site, so mad that they assumed all of the invitations were sent to them only.

You mismarked them to deliberately bypass filters.
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Vadia
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Postby Vadia » Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:00 am

Stalker Queen wrote:
Vadia wrote:
You are aware that region was founded by us right?

I have to say we are more disappointed that someone could do a DEN operation, that didn't seem aligned with DEN policy.

Also the raid was lead by KGB from what we can tell. They are mad that our invitations go to almost all nations on the site, so mad that they assumed all of the invitations were sent to them only.

You mismarked them to deliberately bypass filters.


I can't think of anyone who has raised this complaint before, even the people who have swarmed our region after our last wave of recruitment messages was paid for and sent out.

Do you have a screenshot?
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King Nephmir II
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Postby King Nephmir II » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:10 am

The telegrams were marked correctly.

DEN and TBH had nothing to do with it, besides a few of their members helping out an ally.

This is simply an instance of KGB violating Raider Unity because their 'king' incorrectly thought that the mass WA telegram was a targeted attempt at poaching their region's members, and was illegally tagged. They then proceeded to threaten to "not only burn Auralia, but chase [me] away from the game". I called him out on his mistakes, and they felt the need to retaliate.

I am not quite sure why DEN or TBH would work with a region willing to break Raider Unity at any time due to an unstable king, or why they would attack Auralia when we supported the TBR op and have never attacked them nor threatened them.

I will forgive this time, however if it happens again, I will indeed retaliate.
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94 block
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Postby 94 block » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:50 am

Since when was Neph a part of Raider Unity?
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Postby Shadoke » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:13 am

94 block wrote:Since when was Neph a part of Raider Unity?

Since he started helping out raiders fulltime.
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King Nephmir II
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Postby King Nephmir II » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:43 pm

94 block wrote:Since when was Neph a part of Raider Unity?

Well, DEN said it themselves: they wish to have nothing to do with TBR. I have not once threatened or acted against DEN, and all my previous conflicts were with TBR. TBR is now dead, and since their fall, after a month and a half break, I have done nothing but aid Raiders and raid myself. I run a Raider region as well, that was doing pretty good until we experienced an attack by an unexpected foe.

DEN also referred to Auralia as a "rising" invader group in their most recent announcement concerning the TBR operation.


Also on a side note that has nothing to do with the post I quoted, there has been a recent government change. Unified Protectors is now the Regent of Auralia. Dakling has recently been elected Guardian/WA Delegate, appointing Phil-iros as Sage/Vice Delegate. The Promagistrate and Scribe will be determined in the next ongoing election.
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Knot
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Postby Knot » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:47 pm

King Nephmir II wrote:DEN and TBH had nothing to do with it, besides a few of their members helping out an ally.

Since nearly all available updaters from both organizations were there for the raid, I'm sure that a couple more than "a few" showed up to help out an ally. We were, in fact, officially involved.
King Nephmir II wrote:This is simply an instance of KGB violating Raider Unity because their 'king' incorrectly thought that the mass WA telegram was a targeted attempt at poaching their region's members, and was illegally tagged. They then proceeded to threaten to "not only burn Auralia, but chase [me] away from the game". I called him out on his mistakes, and they felt the need to retaliate.

I am not quite sure why DEN or TBH would work with a region willing to break Raider Unity at any time due to an unstable king, or why they would attack Auralia when we supported the TBR op and have never attacked them nor threatened them.

So, what is Raider Unity? Many people, particularly the newer gameplayers, have been throwing the term around a lot lately as if it's a concrete doctrine that anyone who raids must follow. Missing Dog Head defined it as:
Raider Unity is a concept which has been floating around for years in raider-dom. As the name suggests, it is about all raiders being united, not under a flag or name, but by a purpose. And that purpose is to raid. Under complete raider unity, there would be freedom of information between all raiders, and no raider would ever invade a raider controlled region. All raiders should be friends and jump at the chance to help each other raid. No raider region should ever try to damage any other raider region.
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Anyone who does not believe in, practise and preach the laws of Raider Unity and Raider Purity should not be considered a true raider.

I recall Onder stating that the greatest potential threat to raider-imperialist relations is crude attempts to force the notion of Raider Unity upon the decisions of imperialist regions. The Kingdom of Great Britain, despite having raided before, is not a purist raider region. Similarly, neither is Auralia. Even if we can discount all of this, we're left with the person who waged an unsuccessful holy war against TBR the past year. The term "Raider Unity" can be loosely applied to collective endeavors such as the securing of TBR, but when it is used by Nephmir as support in an argument to complain about getting raided? No. Koth once scolded me for making a reference to Raider (dis)Unity as we prepared to raid-liberate the Ceirien-supported Nazi occupation of National Socialist Republics. It's not that you're not a raider; on the contrary, it's about how much respect you've earned in the eyes of your peers.

Considering the fact that you're the deleted founder of The Eternal Realm, all I can say for you is to defend your region better. Defenders detagged it once, so feel free to enlist some of their help.
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King Nephmir II
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Postby King Nephmir II » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:50 pm

Well, let it be known that Raiders declared war on me, not the other way around this time.

Looks like it's time for another throwdown.

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Postby Vadia » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:00 pm

King Nephmir II wrote:Well, let it be known that Raiders declared war on me, not the other way around this time.

Looks like it's time for another throwdown.


I find it funny that the people who are against us have no logical reason to be against us.

This gets any worse and I will quote "The Interview".
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:17 pm

TBH was not officially involved on a regional level. No pilers have been deployed, and I was the only updater there, if you exclude everyone who'd heard about it via DEN first (/me sighs at the number of dual memberships :P ). I heard about a KGB op through DEN, invited a few Hawks, but was the only one who made it.

The follow isn't a TBH statement in any way, shape, or form.

It does disappoint me that, after further investigation, KGB's answer to my question of "Why are we attacking Auralia, what have they done to any of us" of "he recruited by circumventing our filters" turns out to be, in reality, "He sent a TG marked recruitment to tag:WA." That's nothing Rifty hasn't done a half dozen times before, and while the debate of how right or wrong that is is a topic for another discussion, the point was - Sanctum has done that many more times, while also giving similar support to raider operations as Auralia has (including contributing pilers to the TBR recovery op), without anywhere near this level of repercussion. It's time to stop the "hey everyone let's gang up on Neph because we can" train, guys. People change. People switch sides a dozen times and are still trusted to lead regions and be allies. People say stupid things and get the same, aforementioned result. Maybe it's time to get off some high "I've been around longer" horses and give a guy another chance, especially when for the past few months he's done nothing but prove himself worthy of one? Even more so, when he's no longer the sole leader of the region, but actually helped by a number of other people who've posted in this thread, presiding over a group of largely roleplayers that largely stay out of our business? Go ahead, lynch me for defending Neph, or poke at my past with him all you want. It just disappoints me, after time and time again seeing all these calls for the atmosphere of Gameplay to change, shit like this still happening without anyone outside the region in question going "hey, maybe this isn't right?"

Also - If the telegram was improperly marked, file a GHR. Improperly marked recruitment telegrams are handled by site staff. But with the thin ice Neph is on after the Bob/Halc/Frak escapades, I don't see him sending out any improperly marked telegrams.
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The color or what?..

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How Do I Telegram API?

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Postby Vadia » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:24 pm

Some of us are aren't just RolePlayers, we just happen to have rather complicated lives and that keeps us busy.

I feel like we raid more for fun then recruitment, because our community and recruitment telegrams are strong enough to work. We got six new people messaging on the RMB this week and I already set up another group Rp for the region. The elections went really well, everyone pretty much knows each other if they stick around long enough, and mostly of us really appreciate each other.

I've been here for four years almost and I have not been in a community this strong or been in raids this amusing.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:28 pm

Point wasn't that you do some roleplay. Point was that this was a community beyond Neph, a community that's helped TBH on raids before, and a region that sent out a legally marked recruitment tg to a wide target, and received an overly aggressive reply from the start.

It might actually be helpful if Neph shared those.

Also, since someone asked me about it offsite: No, I wouldn't consider Auralia part of Unity, at least not yet. But I would consider it in the same general sphere I'd consider LKE, Albion, or Sanctum (when it was more....alive) - regions that raid, but are not "raider," that I can usually ask for a hand from. We all know Rifty and I don't get along, but I worked with Sanctum as a region, and as a military. I respect regions that aid us, and have done nothing against us.
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The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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How Do I Telegram API?

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King Nephmir II
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Postby King Nephmir II » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:40 pm

Sure, I suppose I could post the telegram I received. It wouldn't change KGB's or DEN's stance, though.

Greetings Honourable King Nephmir II,

It has come to this governments attention that you have attempted to recruit from our region while improperly tagging your recruitment telegrams to get around our telegram filters. This is unacceptable. Our King is extremely unhappy with this tactic and we hereby demand that you cease and desist this tactic immediately. Failure to comply will result in retaliation beyond what your region can take. Our King has pledged that not only will your region be burned but he will personally run you out of this game. He is a vet from the very first year of the game and he is more than capable of accomplishing this task.

Signed,
His Britannic Highness, The Right Honourable Admiral Constantine Hanover
Prime Minister of The Kingdom of Great Britain
Member of Parliament for Italy
Prince of Hesse
Duke of Somerset
Vice Admiral
Chief of Naval Operation


In reply:
Hey,

(1) The telegram was properly tagged. See the image of a person in the top right corner?

(2) It was a mass WA telegram, meaning it was sent to all WA members, and not targeted at any specific region or nation.

(3) These unsupported accusations show me just how much your "experienced veteran" knows about the game. Forgive me if I don't exactly fear for my region's safety.

I do not take kindly to this threat and ask that our recently established forum embassy be removed, I have no desire to work with a region on the brink of warring against anyone at any time for any reason because of they find themselves superior due to the inflation of their population with puppets.

Thanks,
Nephmir


I won't comment, I'll let you all come to your own conclusions.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:25 pm

This kind of GP elitism that somehow old players are inherently better than new ones is precisely why we can't have nice things. >:(
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Postby Vadia » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:31 pm

Valrifell wrote:This kind of GP elitism that somehow old players are inherently better than new ones is precisely why we can't have nice things. >:(


Remember when older players were treated better because they were better at the game?

Oh things haven't been that way in a long time, perhaps they never were.
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Postby King Nephmir II » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:07 pm

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Auralia
Wednesday, December 2nd, 2015
Battle Report: Minor Update

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The Auralian Knights, with invaluable assistance from Cimmeria, conquered the Alliance of Armed Nations, ending the Delegate's reign of 92 days with 4 endos, and banjecting a native.

Knights
Sovereign King Nephmir II
Captain The Tomanian Reich
Warrior Thalerland

Cimmerians
Mercenary Cora II
Mercenary Octopus Guy
Mercenary We Are Not the NSA

Casualties (Friendly-Enemy-Native)
0-0-1

Promotions
The Tomanian Reich
Cavalier » Captain
Thalerland
Armsmen » Warrior
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Postby Cora II » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:56 am

Nice raid. Thanks for your support. :)

You guys raid, Mercs can happily help. ;)
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King Nephmir II
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Postby King Nephmir II » Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:38 am

Cora II wrote:Nice raid. Thanks for your support. :)

You guys raid, Mercs can happily help. ;)

Thank you. We will gladly provide the same services.

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Vadia
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Postby Vadia » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:08 pm

Glad I stepped up my game, don't want my second to take my place.
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King Nephmir II
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Postby King Nephmir II » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:48 am

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Auralia
February 1st, 2016
January 2016 Summary

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January 9th, 2016 - Minor Update
Supported The Black Hawks along with DEN in a tag raid of 30 regions. (Official Report)

January 17th, 2016 - Minor Update
Aided DEN in the successful capture of Hemithea

January 20th, 2016 - Minor Update
Captured Space - Banjected 2 Natives.

January 21st, 2016 - Major Update
Seized United Military of Gallifrey. Non-Executive Delegate and a Founder, still flies Auralia's markings to this day. (Image)

January 22nd, 2016 - Major Update
Seized Christmas. (Photo)

January 23rd, 2016 - Minor Update
Aided The Black Hawks in the capture of Latinoamerica.

January 24th, 2016 - Major Update
Assisted Brotherhood of Shadows in the occupation of Peuce Island.

Various stealth operations also took place in addition to minor training operations for new members.


I would like to formally announce and congratulate The Tomanian Reich on his recent ascension to Regent of Auralia.

He has also earned the "Fellowship Star" award for recruiting more than 3 active members into The Auralian Knights.

    ★ Leadership Star: Successfully lead a stealth operation on a region with a founder and executive delegate with 5 or more endorsements. Change the WFE, Flag, and banject at least 1 native or enemy puppet.

    ★ Combat Star: Reinforce 10 Auralian occupations.


    Fellowship Star: Recruit 3 active members or friends (ranked "Swordsmen" upon enlistment) for the Auralian Knights.

    ★ Ranged Attack Star: Repel a Liberation attempt on an Auralian occupation.

    ★ Speed Star: Lead a tag raid of 30 or more regions in one update.


Enjoy a summary of Auralia's major RP events and jokes here... with Auraliaball!

Celebrating 8 months of Auralia February 4th, 2016!

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Postby Marselesk » Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:56 pm

Cool stuff. Congrats to Tom!
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:54 pm

Other than a telegramming incident, this region has done well for itself. Not at all what I expected.
Keep it up. Don't screw it up. :clap:
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Postby Starkiller101 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:47 pm

Congrats too Tom. Hopefully I can start raiding again. :p doubtful: p
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King Nephmir II
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Postby King Nephmir II » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:06 pm

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Auralia
February 3rd, 2016
Operation: Striped Sweater

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The natives of The Novelty Sweater Alliance thought that a tag raid wasn't enough. Auralia successfully stealthily invaded and banjected 2 Natives, one of which was the Vice-Delegate, in an intense power struggle with the natives lasting several updates.

Knights
Sovereign King Nephmir II
Regent The Tomanian Reich
Horsemen Vadia
Captain Thalerland
Squire Vukmire

Casualties
0-2-0

Promotions
Thalerland
Cavalier --> Captain
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:07 pm

This reminds me of raiding those 'SWAG' regions.
It just makes you feel... unclean.
:?

Who would make a novelty sweater region?
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