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The Howler: TRR Delegate election

Postby Gradea » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:12 pm

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In what has transformed from a simple election has evolved into one of the most drawnout political sagas in The Rejected Realms' twelve years of existence.
Firstly it was Gradea who challenged Unibot, citing the reason that a Delegate should not have served for one year without being challenged. Then Cormac Stark and Reject stalwart and Game Moderator, Crazy girl, threw their hats into the ring.

The election got messier as Cormac Stark withdrew and resigned his citizenship. Then Unibot withdrew after serious allegations raised their ugly head. In the latest twist, former Delegate and incumbent Speaker of the Assembly, Guy has stepped up to the plate, urging citizens to vote for him as an interim Delegate.

The election will go on for a week and the Howler is worried if it's combatants will leave unscathed.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:43 pm

Its almost like you pulled a reverse Gradea, Todd. Thank you :clap:
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:38 am

This was actually a good article. States the facts, no bias, perfect grammar.

Only knock on it is that it's short- I'd have given more information about the messier bits; quoted Cormac's resignation, quoted the allegations (EDIT: if legal to do so, a quick view of TRR's boards leads me to believe they're classified), quoted Guy. Some people will roll eyes, but quoting your own notification of challenging the delegate would have also probably been appropriate.

Kinda makes me think we should have some kind of guide to article writing stickied in this forum.
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Postby Cora II » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:27 am

The lowest level of GP.

Why anyone ever would want be delegate of TRR? :lol:

Unibot cut his own 'balls' (and UDL's all the same) doing that wrong move. Why it should be repeated by lesser spirits? :clap:

I'm not surprised for Gradea. Its his natural place. :p
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Postby Cora II » Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:27 am

The lowest level of GP.

Why anyone ever would want be delegate of TRR? :lol:

Unibot cut his own 'balls' (and UDL's all the same) doing that wrong move. Why it should be repeated by lesser spirits? :clap:

I'm not surprised for Gradea. Its his natural place. :p
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Postby The Agnostic Collective » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:16 am

I'm dying to know just what said allegations are. First, there was Tomb in TNP, now it's Uni in TRR. Is The Shadow Government systematically eliminating GCR delegates? :idea:

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:57 pm

Cora II wrote:Why anyone ever would want be delegate of TRR? :lol:

Because NS is a political game and being a sinker delegate is all about politics. You should try the GCRs someday, they're actually quite welcoming places. Even to you.
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:45 pm

The Agnostic Collective wrote:I'm dying to know just what said allegations are. First, there was Tomb in TNP, now it's Uni in TRR. Is The Shadow Government systematically eliminating GCR delegates? :idea:


I got banned for 3 days on this very forum for stating them some time ago. Just sayin'.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:21 pm

I never thought I'd see Unibot off the TRR throne...
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:24 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:I never thought I'd see Unibot off the TRR throne...


And that's not really a bad thing, is it?
At the very least the (in my opinion) atrocious formatting on the TRR WFE could be fixed. There's just so much empty space...
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Postby Ambrella » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:03 pm

What would this mean for TRT?
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:44 pm

Ambrella wrote:What would this mean for TRT?


More facts, research, and accurate material.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:54 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Ambrella wrote:What would this mean for TRT?


More facts, research, and accurate material.


From what I have been able to discern Unibot will still be in charge of the publication.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:55 pm

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
More facts, research, and accurate material.


From what I have been able to discern Unibot will still be in charge of the publication.


Less facts, research, and accurate material, then? :p
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Postby United RussoAsia » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:57 pm

This could be interesting.
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Postby Guy » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:29 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:This was actually a good article. States the facts

Not exactly. Contrary to the chronological order presented in the article, I challenged for Delegate a number of hours before Unibot withdrew. In fact, Unibot still appeared on the initial ballot form. This is something that Gradea should know, seeing that he cast a vote using that form. But unlike most people commenting on news articles in this forum, I'm willing to excuse harmless mistakes. :P

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:perfect grammar.
Gradea wrote:the Howler is worried if it's combatants will leave unscathed.


It's a good first effort though for your own gig, Gradea. :)
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:05 pm

Guy wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:This was actually a good article. States the facts

Not exactly. Contrary to the chronological order presented in the article, I challenged for Delegate a number of hours before Unibot withdrew. In fact, Unibot still appeared on the initial ballot form. This is something that Gradea should know, seeing that he cast a vote using that form. But unlike most people commenting on news articles in this forum, I'm willing to excuse harmless mistakes. :P

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:perfect grammar.


It's a good first effort though for your own gig, Gradea. :)

Things that virtually every "professional" newsagency fucks up damn near every time anyway, so it's not a scratch on him.

And me, apparently, but Word didn't highlight that sentence as a grammatical error for me for some reason.
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:17 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Things that virtually every "professional" newsagency fucks up damn near every time anyway, so it's not a scratch on him..


That's a statement that can be used to defend any writers' mistake.
Why are you using it to defend his, exactly?
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Postby The Church of Satan » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:27 pm

No journalist is perfect. That's a universal truth. Although NS journalists strive for perfection in their articles, it is an act of futility. Somebody will always find something wrong with an article, but that's no big deal. We try our best and that is all anyone can ask of their self or another.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:41 am

Ridersyl wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Things that virtually every "professional" newsagency fucks up damn near every time anyway, so it's not a scratch on him..


That's a statement that can be used to defend any writers' mistake.
Why are you using it to defend his, exactly?
Because I'm doing my very best to try and break the Gameplay circlejerk of making fun of people who aren't up to people's standards instead of encouraging them and providing assistance.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:06 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:
That's a statement that can be used to defend any writers' mistake.
Why are you using it to defend his, exactly?
Because I'm doing my very best to try and break the Gameplay circlejerk of making fun of people who aren't up to people's standards instead of encouraging them and providing assistance.



Tells a much fact as TRT, sooner, and with a lot less fluff ;) I don;t mind the copromise between the lovely Tl;Dr news and blocks of text I don't have time to read. I got what I wanted to know from this, for now.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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How Do I Telegram API?

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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:02 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
Ridersyl wrote:
That's a statement that can be used to defend any writers' mistake.
Why are you using it to defend his, exactly?
Because I'm doing my very best to try and break the Gameplay circlejerk of making fun of people who aren't up to people's standards instead of encouraging them and providing assistance.


Good on you. However, I feel you've misjudged the situation.
This isn't a case of a user not being up to people's standards. This is a case of a user having a huge reputation as a forum spammer.

There are much less deserving victims of the Gameplay circlejerk that you should save your advocacy for.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:29 am

Ridersyl wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Because I'm doing my very best to try and break the Gameplay circlejerk of making fun of people who aren't up to people's standards instead of encouraging them and providing assistance.


Good on you. However, I feel you've misjudged the situation.
This isn't a case of a user not being up to people's standards. This is a case of a user having a huge reputation as a forum spammer.

There are much less deserving victims of the Gameplay circlejerk that you should save your advocacy for.
No misjudgement, I'm well aware of that reputation. Gradea is a user that has improved significantly over the last few weeks, and should be given incentive to continue to improve.
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Postby Guy » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:14 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Tells a much fact as TRT, sooner, and with a lot less fluff ;) I don;t mind the copromise between the lovely Tl;Dr news and blocks of text I don't have time to read. I got what I wanted to know from this, for now.

To be honest, I have to question whether the article says a lot more than tl;dr does, and it got a couple of points fundamentally wrong. The first was canvassed above (relating to the chronological order of the events portrayed in the article), the second is that Cormac has not resigned his TRR citizenship, rather only withdrew his challenge.

Again, this is not to say that I do not applaud Gradea for having a go at his own media outlet. I think that such outlets can have a very positive contribution to our gaming experience.

It's the nitpicking of those -- a number of them in this thread -- that jump on every small mistake that someone makes when it suits them, and ignores them when it does not, that is the problem. We are playing a game, and we are all bound to get some things wrong.
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