The Humane Republic of Lazarus

[Revall]

Do let me get this straights? Jesus Whale is Revert?

No he meant Revert is a supporter of Jesus Whale.

[John Turner]

Do let me get this straights? Jesus Whale is Revert?

No he meant Revert is a supporter of Jesus Whale.

Ah..... Thank you for clearing that up.

[Unibot III]

Do let me get this straights? Jesus Whale is Revert?

No he meant Revert is a supporter of Jesus Whale.

Ah that makes more sense, I was shocked when I heard Luna was supporting Cormac/Tim.

[Loftegen]

You condemned and name-called a neutral member (Zaolat) and a supporter of The Almighty Jesus Whale (Revert) in your emotionally-fueled verbal carpet bombing, Lazarus. Watch the collateral next time.

I supported the PRL during the Stujenske coup and cheered when the NPO/"NLO" was defeated in Lazarus. Now I find myself on the other end, supporting Cormac, Tim, Koth, etc in Osiris.

That's because at the end of the day, I don't pick my side based on sovereignty, democracy, or any of the fake facets we have in this game. I pick my side based on who I feel comfortable being alongside. I've had OOC interactions with nearly everyone involved in this, and I chose the side with the least toxicity in my mind. That's it. I don't care what labels that puts on me, or what it does to my reputation.

If reputation is what I cared about, I'd be staying out of this shit.

You do seem to care a lot about feeling morally superior and smug, though. Good for you!

[RiderSyl]

You do seem to care a lot about feeling morally superior and smug, though. Good for you!

I've been a raider for nearly my entire time in Gameplay, and you're accusing me of "caring a lot about feeling morally superior"?

As for feeling smug, yeah I'm guilty of that sometimes, but I don't "care a lot about feeling smug". I don't even know what that means, to be honest.

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

Do let me get this straights? Jesus Whale is Revert?

No, Jesus Whale was ejected and banned from Osiris as the Transitional Government's first act.

[Cormactopia II]

condemns their hangers-on, apologists and sycophants (Koth, Ikand, Revert and Zaolat) for betraying democracy

Given that Revert was neutral at the time Lazarus' statement was posted, and has since joined the so-called "opposition," and given that Zaolat has been neutral all along and declared his neutrality here, does the Delegate of Lazarus plan to issue a retraction and apology for this?

Revert may have joined the "opposition," but he is still Osiran. I won't stand by and watch him be libeled because you couldn't do some basic fact checking. I wonder why the "opposition" hasn't stood up for him, or stood up for Zaolat for that matter.

[Consular]

Why do you keep putting opposition in quotation marks?

[The Church of Satan]

Cormac, the matter was already settled via TG.

[Cormactopia II]

Cormac, the matter was already settled via TG.

Your statement is public. It still includes the false information, leaving someone who doesn't closely follow Gameplay to read it and believe it's true. At the very least your statement should be edited.

[The Church of Satan]

And I'm hoping to get that done as soon as I can get a hold of Funk.

[Sea Lion]

I do hope that the delegate of Lazarus will release a statement of apology for her quick words.

[The Church of Satan]

As I said before Sea Lion, it was taken care of in private. If Zaolat wanted a big public spectacle out of it he'd have said so.

[Cormactopia II]

As I said before Sea Lion, it was taken care of in private. If Zaolat wanted a big public spectacle out of it he'd have said so.

I will note that Revert was also libeled, so I hope you have privately apologized to him as well. If they're content with private apologies, accompanied by correction when Funkadelia is available, then so be it. I just want to make sure Osirans aren't libeled by Lazarus without correction.

[Revert]

Thank you for the defense, Cormac.

[Loftegen]

condemns their hangers-on, apologists and sycophants (Koth, Ikand, Revert and Zaolat) for betraying democracy

Given that Revert was neutral at the time Lazarus' statement was posted, and has since joined the so-called "opposition," and given that Zaolat has been neutral all along and declared his neutrality here, does the Delegate of Lazarus plan to issue a retraction and apology for this?

Revert may have joined the "opposition," but he is still Osiran. I won't stand by and watch him be libeled because you couldn't do some basic fact checking. I wonder why the "opposition" hasn't stood up for him, or stood up for Zaolat for that matter.

After I posted my statement, Jesus Whale sent me this TG:

Hallo Loftegen.
Thank you very much for your statement, it means a lot to me with the amount of support I've received.
That being said, Zaolat is sitting out the situation due to RL issues and Revert is with us, just wanted to clear that up.
Once again, thank you.
-JW

I replied with this:

JW:
Ah, my bad. Anyway, whatever help we can provide, you are welcome to. You and your supporters are also welcome to use Lazarus as a base of operations, and (heaven forbid) as a new home if things don't go your way. If there is anything else I can do or say that you think might be helpful, let me know.
Loftegen

Then this a few moments later:

Is Revert being with you common knowledge, or a secret that still needs keeping?
Loft

To which JW replied this:

Just saw this sorry.
I believe Ainocra just let the cat out of the bad on the Osiris RMB, so now we wait for Tim and Cormac to flip out.

To me, it seems seems Rev had joined the "opposition" before I posted my statement, and my lumping him in with your fellow-travellers was a fortuitous accident that helped keep his cover.

Regarding Zaolat, lumping him in with your cabal of cronies was an unfounded assumption on my part: I assumed, wrongly, that since you had made him a regional officer, he was in cahoots with you. To him, I apologize. You, on the other hand, can take your moralistic grandstanding and stick it where the sun don't shine.

[Cormactopia II]

To me, it seems seems Rev had joined the "opposition" before I posted my statement, and my lumping him in with your fellow-travellers was a fortuitous accident that helped keep his cover.

Even before Revert joined the opposition, he was presumed neutral as he had not yet been reached by either side. Your statement was just plain wrong, no matter how you try to spin it to look better for yourself and Lazarus.

Regarding Zaolat, lumping him in with your cabal of cronies was an unfounded assumption on my part: I assumed, wrongly, that since you had made him a regional officer, he was in cahoots with you. To him, I apologize. You, on the other hand, can take your moralistic grandstanding and stick it where the sun don't shine.

He was never a Regional Officer, he was and is listed on the WFE as a Guardian because he is neutral. We continue to trust him to protect Osiris in some kind of freak emergency involving neither party in this conflict, and not to exceed the Guardian endorsement limit.

The problem is that you assumed anything and put it in a formal statement released on behalf of your region before fact checking it. Your assumptions were wrong, plain and simple, and Lazarus' statement therefore looks pretty amateur. When you don't even have a firm enough grasp of the situation to get some basic facts right, should you really be involved at all?

[Loftegen]

Even before Revert joined the opposition, he was presumed neutral as he had not yet been reached by either side. Your statement was just plain wrong, no matter how you try to spin it to look better for yourself and Lazarus.

I'm not the one trying to spin things: I don't need to.

He was never a Regional Officer, he was and is listed on the WFE as a Guardian because he is neutral. We continue to trust him to protect Osiris in some kind of freak emergency involving neither party in this conflict, and not to exceed the Guardian endorsement limit.

Regional officer, on the RMB as an endorsee, what's the difference? Split hairs much?

The problem is that you assumed anything and put it in a formal statement released on behalf of your region before fact checking it. Your assumptions were wrong, plain and simple, and Lazarus' statement therefore looks pretty amateur. When you don't even have a firm enough grasp of the situation to get some basic facts right, should you really be involved at all?

Do you need some Preparation H?

[Ramaeus]

Do you need some Preparation H?

A positively remarkable display of maturity from Lazarus' Delegate. The connection to Cormac's post is patently obvious.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Regional officer, on the RMB as an endorsee, what's the difference? Split hairs much?

Well, you see, one is a delegate or founder appointed position that comes with any number of game-coded regional powers, some of which cost influence to use, that does not even require one be WA, much less maintain any number of endorsements. The other one is an organizational position with no regional power, other than having a larger number of endorsements and generally higher influence levels than the average nation. The only real similarity is that both are a publicly visible position of regional respect.

If you have any more questions about basic gameplay mechanics, ask away.

[Canton Empire]

Do you need some Preparation H?

A positively remarkable display of maturity from Lazarus' Delegate. The connection to Cormac's post is patently obvious.

bold mine.
This is why he was elected. Twice

[Evil Wolf]

A positively remarkable display of maturity from Lazarus' Delegate. The connection to Cormac's post is patently obvious.

bold mine.
This is why he was elected. Twice

I was elected twice as Delegate in Lazarus too. Does that suddenly make everything I type that much more intuitive and profound?

I submit to you that it does not.

[Crazy girl]

Do you need some Preparation H?

Knock it off. Since you have a clean record, I will leave it at an unofficial warning for now, but play nice.

[The Mighty Warrior Horse]

bold mine.
This is why he was elected. Twice

I was elected twice as Delegate in Lazarus too. Does that suddenly make everything I type that much more intuitive and profound?

I submit to you that it does not.

Yeah you have to be elected 3 times in a row to become wise

[Drop Your Pants]

I was elected twice as Delegate in Lazarus too. Does that suddenly make everything I type that much more intuitive and profound?

I submit to you that it does not.

But you followed it up with years of moaning and being lazy. Not judging you, I did the exact same