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Postby Lenlyvit » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:13 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
The Atlae Isles wrote:Stamford Bridge? :P

A stadium of a plastic ass team that likely won't even make Top 4 this season? It's not the most flattering picture to paint.

The battle of Stamford Bridge Tim. You know, where the English beat the Vikings? :p

Edit: Just before the English were defeated by William the Conquerer
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:20 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:A stadium of a plastic ass team that likely won't even make Top 4 this season? It's not the most flattering picture to paint.

The battle of Stamford Bridge Tim. You know, where the English beat the Vikings? :p

Edit: Just before the English were defeated by William the Conquerer


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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:28 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:A stadium of a plastic ass team that likely won't even make Top 4 this season? It's not the most flattering picture to paint.

The battle of Stamford Bridge Tim. You know, where the English beat the Vikings? :p

Edit: Just before the English were defeated by William the Conquerer

I dunno, I can't recall Chelsea playing against any Norwegian teams at home ;)
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:37 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:
The Atlae Isles wrote:Stamford Bridge? :P

A stadium of a plastic ass team that likely won't even make Top 4 this season? It's not the most flattering picture to paint.

I was actually referring to this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_ ... ord_Bridge

Although that comparison might be pretty close to Balder itself though :P
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Postby Lenlyvit » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:01 pm

The Atlae Isles wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:A stadium of a plastic ass team that likely won't even make Top 4 this season? It's not the most flattering picture to paint.

I was actually referring to this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_ ... ord_Bridge

Although that comparison might be pretty close to Balder itself though :P

Like I stated in my above post :roll:
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Postby Solorni » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:04 pm

Balder will make York Jórvík again. Although it would be funny if Balder purposefully raided only British regions because of the history of invading the British isles...
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:14 pm

Solorni wrote:Balder will make York Jórvík again. Although it would be funny if Balder purposefully raided only British regions because of the history of invading the British isles...

The British Isles, off you go then :D
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Postby Eluvatar » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:08 pm

Well, 300 is a big round number, which makes it meaningful for that reason. (Congratulations, Solorni!)

That said, if anyone wants to figure out when Solorni reached the highest "natural" endorsement count, I've searched through the dataset behind those charts to find the 100 highest endorsement levels recorded in the daily dumps for sinker regions.

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$ for f in region_stats-20??????.json; do date=`date "+%Y-%m-%d" -r ${f}`; jq -j '.data["Balder"].delegatevotes, " ", "Balder", " ", "'${date}'", "\n", .data["Lazarus"].delegatevotes, " ", "Lazarus", " ", "'${date}'", "\n", .data["Osiris"].delegatevotes, " ", "Osiris", " ", "'${date}'", "\n", .data["the Rejected Realms"].delegatevotes, " ", "the Rejected Realms", " ", "'${date}'", "\n"' ${f}; done | sort -rn | head -n100
331 Lazarus 2015-04-24
327 Lazarus 2015-04-25
327 Lazarus 2015-04-23
313 Lazarus 2015-04-26
294 Lazarus 2015-04-27
285 Balder 2018-03-23
279 Balder 2018-03-22
278 Balder 2018-03-21
276 Balder 2018-03-20
275 Balder 2018-03-19
274 Balder 2018-03-18
274 Balder 2018-02-01
273 Balder 2018-02-02
272 Balder 2018-02-03
270 Balder 2018-02-04
270 Balder 2018-01-29
269 Balder 2018-01-30
269 Balder 2018-01-27
269 Balder 2018-01-26
268 Lazarus 2017-07-27
268 Lazarus 2017-07-22
268 Balder 2018-02-05
268 Balder 2018-01-31
268 Balder 2018-01-28
267 Lazarus 2017-07-28
267 Lazarus 2017-07-24
267 Lazarus 2017-07-23
266 Balder 2018-02-06
265 Lazarus 2018-03-07
265 Lazarus 2018-02-25
265 Lazarus 2018-02-24
264 Lazarus 2018-03-06
264 Lazarus 2018-02-26
264 Lazarus 2017-07-26
264 Lazarus 2015-04-28
264 Balder 2018-01-24
264 Balder 2018-01-22
263 Lazarus 2018-02-27
263 Lazarus 2017-07-29
263 Balder 2018-02-08
263 Balder 2018-02-07
263 Balder 2018-01-25
262 Lazarus 2018-03-09
262 Lazarus 2018-03-08
262 Lazarus 2018-03-05
262 Lazarus 2018-02-23
262 Balder 2018-01-23
261 Lazarus 2018-03-13
261 Lazarus 2018-03-01
261 Lazarus 2018-02-28
261 Lazarus 2018-02-22
261 Lazarus 2018-02-21
261 Lazarus 2018-02-17
261 Lazarus 2017-07-21
261 Balder 2018-02-09
261 Balder 2018-01-21
261 Balder 2018-01-20
260 Lazarus 2018-03-12
260 Lazarus 2018-03-02
260 Lazarus 2017-07-30
260 Balder 2018-03-17
260 Balder 2018-02-13
260 Balder 2018-02-12
260 Balder 2018-02-11
260 Balder 2018-02-10
259 Lazarus 2018-03-11
259 Lazarus 2018-03-10
259 Lazarus 2018-03-04
259 Lazarus 2018-02-20
259 Lazarus 2018-02-19
259 Lazarus 2018-02-16
259 Balder 2018-02-14
259 Balder 2018-01-19
258 Lazarus 2018-03-03
258 Lazarus 2018-02-18
258 Balder 2018-02-15
257 Lazarus 2018-02-15
257 Balder 2018-02-18
257 Balder 2018-02-17
257 Balder 2018-02-16
256 Balder 2018-02-23
256 Balder 2018-02-19
256 Balder 2018-01-18
255 Lazarus 2018-02-14
255 Balder 2018-02-22
255 Balder 2018-02-20
254 Lazarus 2018-02-13
254 Balder 2018-02-24
253 Lazarus 2017-07-20
253 Balder 2018-02-21
253 Balder 2018-01-17
252 Lazarus 2017-07-19
252 Balder 2018-02-25
251 Balder 2018-01-16
251 Balder 2018-01-15
250 Lazarus 2018-02-12
250 Balder 2018-02-27
250 Balder 2018-02-26
250 Balder 2018-01-13
249 Lazarus 2018-02-11


Delegate VotesRegionDate
331Lazarus2015-04-24
327Lazarus2015-04-25
327Lazarus2015-04-23
313Lazarus2015-04-26
294Lazarus2015-04-27
285Balder2018-03-23
279Balder2018-03-22
278Balder2018-03-21
276Balder2018-03-20
275Balder2018-03-19
274Balder2018-03-18
274Balder2018-02-01
273Balder2018-02-02
272Balder2018-02-03
270Balder2018-02-04
270Balder2018-01-29
269Balder2018-01-30
269Balder2018-01-27
269Balder2018-01-26
268Lazarus2017-07-27
268Lazarus2017-07-22
268Balder2018-02-05
268Balder2018-01-31
268Balder2018-01-28
267Lazarus2017-07-28
267Lazarus2017-07-24
267Lazarus2017-07-23
266Balder2018-02-06
265Lazarus2018-03-07
265Lazarus2018-02-25
265Lazarus2018-02-24
264Lazarus2018-03-06
264Lazarus2018-02-26
264Lazarus2017-07-26
264Lazarus2015-04-28
264Balder2018-01-24
264Balder2018-01-22
263Lazarus2018-02-27
263Lazarus2017-07-29
263Balder2018-02-08
263Balder2018-02-07
263Balder2018-01-25
262Lazarus2018-03-09
262Lazarus2018-03-08
262Lazarus2018-03-05
262Lazarus2018-02-23
262Balder2018-01-23
261Lazarus2018-03-13
261Lazarus2018-03-01
261Lazarus2018-02-28
261Lazarus2018-02-22
261Lazarus2018-02-21
261Lazarus2018-02-17
261Lazarus2017-07-21
261Balder2018-02-09
261Balder2018-01-21
261Balder2018-01-20
260Lazarus2018-03-12
260Lazarus2018-03-02
260Lazarus2017-07-30
260Balder2018-03-17
260Balder2018-02-13
260Balder2018-02-12
260Balder2018-02-11
260Balder2018-02-10
259Lazarus2018-03-11
259Lazarus2018-03-10
259Lazarus2018-03-04
259Lazarus2018-02-20
259Lazarus2018-02-19
259Lazarus2018-02-16
259Balder2018-02-14
259Balder2018-01-19
258Lazarus2018-03-03
258Lazarus2018-02-18
258Balder2018-02-15
257Lazarus2018-02-15
257Balder2018-02-18
257Balder2018-02-17
257Balder2018-02-16
256Balder2018-02-23
256Balder2018-02-19
256Balder2018-01-18
255Lazarus2018-02-14
255Balder2018-02-22
255Balder2018-02-20
254Lazarus2018-02-13
254Balder2018-02-24
253Lazarus2017-07-20
253Balder2018-02-21
253Balder2018-01-17
252Lazarus2017-07-19
252Balder2018-02-25
251Balder2018-01-16
251Balder2018-01-15
250Lazarus2018-02-12
250Balder2018-02-27
250Balder2018-02-26
250Balder2018-01-13
249Lazarus2018-02-11


(Delegate Votes is one more than the Delegate nation's valid endorsements at update)
(The dates represent the date in US Eastern time in which the major update from which the data point is ended)
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:39 pm

Solorni wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:When I saw “Balder - 300” I expected significantly more Thermopylae.

I am not entertained. yes I know I’m mixing movies

You do realize we're not a Greek region right? :/

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Postby Solorni » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:16 pm

Eluvatar wrote:Well, 300 is a big round number, which makes it meaningful for that reason. (Congratulations, Solorni!)

That said, if anyone wants to figure out when Solorni reached the highest "natural" endorsement count, I've searched through the dataset behind those charts to find the 100 highest endorsement levels recorded in the daily dumps for sinker regions.

Code: Select all
$ for f in region_stats-20??????.json; do date=`date "+%Y-%m-%d" -r ${f}`; jq -j '.data["Balder"].delegatevotes, " ", "Balder", " ", "'${date}'", "\n", .data["Lazarus"].delegatevotes, " ", "Lazarus", " ", "'${date}'", "\n", .data["Osiris"].delegatevotes, " ", "Osiris", " ", "'${date}'", "\n", .data["the Rejected Realms"].delegatevotes, " ", "the Rejected Realms", " ", "'${date}'", "\n"' ${f}; done | sort -rn | head -n100
331 Lazarus 2015-04-24
327 Lazarus 2015-04-25
327 Lazarus 2015-04-23
313 Lazarus 2015-04-26
294 Lazarus 2015-04-27
285 Balder 2018-03-23
279 Balder 2018-03-22
278 Balder 2018-03-21
276 Balder 2018-03-20
275 Balder 2018-03-19
274 Balder 2018-03-18
274 Balder 2018-02-01
273 Balder 2018-02-02
272 Balder 2018-02-03
270 Balder 2018-02-04
270 Balder 2018-01-29
269 Balder 2018-01-30
269 Balder 2018-01-27
269 Balder 2018-01-26
268 Lazarus 2017-07-27
268 Lazarus 2017-07-22
268 Balder 2018-02-05
268 Balder 2018-01-31
268 Balder 2018-01-28
267 Lazarus 2017-07-28
267 Lazarus 2017-07-24
267 Lazarus 2017-07-23
266 Balder 2018-02-06
265 Lazarus 2018-03-07
265 Lazarus 2018-02-25
265 Lazarus 2018-02-24
264 Lazarus 2018-03-06
264 Lazarus 2018-02-26
264 Lazarus 2017-07-26
264 Lazarus 2015-04-28
264 Balder 2018-01-24
264 Balder 2018-01-22
263 Lazarus 2018-02-27
263 Lazarus 2017-07-29
263 Balder 2018-02-08
263 Balder 2018-02-07
263 Balder 2018-01-25
262 Lazarus 2018-03-09
262 Lazarus 2018-03-08
262 Lazarus 2018-03-05
262 Lazarus 2018-02-23
262 Balder 2018-01-23
261 Lazarus 2018-03-13
261 Lazarus 2018-03-01
261 Lazarus 2018-02-28
261 Lazarus 2018-02-22
261 Lazarus 2018-02-21
261 Lazarus 2018-02-17
261 Lazarus 2017-07-21
261 Balder 2018-02-09
261 Balder 2018-01-21
261 Balder 2018-01-20
260 Lazarus 2018-03-12
260 Lazarus 2018-03-02
260 Lazarus 2017-07-30
260 Balder 2018-03-17
260 Balder 2018-02-13
260 Balder 2018-02-12
260 Balder 2018-02-11
260 Balder 2018-02-10
259 Lazarus 2018-03-11
259 Lazarus 2018-03-10
259 Lazarus 2018-03-04
259 Lazarus 2018-02-20
259 Lazarus 2018-02-19
259 Lazarus 2018-02-16
259 Balder 2018-02-14
259 Balder 2018-01-19
258 Lazarus 2018-03-03
258 Lazarus 2018-02-18
258 Balder 2018-02-15
257 Lazarus 2018-02-15
257 Balder 2018-02-18
257 Balder 2018-02-17
257 Balder 2018-02-16
256 Balder 2018-02-23
256 Balder 2018-02-19
256 Balder 2018-01-18
255 Lazarus 2018-02-14
255 Balder 2018-02-22
255 Balder 2018-02-20
254 Lazarus 2018-02-13
254 Balder 2018-02-24
253 Lazarus 2017-07-20
253 Balder 2018-02-21
253 Balder 2018-01-17
252 Lazarus 2017-07-19
252 Balder 2018-02-25
251 Balder 2018-01-16
251 Balder 2018-01-15
250 Lazarus 2018-02-12
250 Balder 2018-02-27
250 Balder 2018-02-26
250 Balder 2018-01-13
249 Lazarus 2018-02-11


Delegate VotesRegionDate
331Lazarus2015-04-24
327Lazarus2015-04-25
327Lazarus2015-04-23
313Lazarus2015-04-26
294Lazarus2015-04-27
285Balder2018-03-23
279Balder2018-03-22
278Balder2018-03-21
276Balder2018-03-20
275Balder2018-03-19
274Balder2018-03-18
274Balder2018-02-01
273Balder2018-02-02
272Balder2018-02-03
270Balder2018-02-04
270Balder2018-01-29
269Balder2018-01-30
269Balder2018-01-27
269Balder2018-01-26
268Lazarus2017-07-27
268Lazarus2017-07-22
268Balder2018-02-05
268Balder2018-01-31
268Balder2018-01-28
267Lazarus2017-07-28
267Lazarus2017-07-24
267Lazarus2017-07-23
266Balder2018-02-06
265Lazarus2018-03-07
265Lazarus2018-02-25
265Lazarus2018-02-24
264Lazarus2018-03-06
264Lazarus2018-02-26
264Lazarus2017-07-26
264Lazarus2015-04-28
264Balder2018-01-24
264Balder2018-01-22
263Lazarus2018-02-27
263Lazarus2017-07-29
263Balder2018-02-08
263Balder2018-02-07
263Balder2018-01-25
262Lazarus2018-03-09
262Lazarus2018-03-08
262Lazarus2018-03-05
262Lazarus2018-02-23
262Balder2018-01-23
261Lazarus2018-03-13
261Lazarus2018-03-01
261Lazarus2018-02-28
261Lazarus2018-02-22
261Lazarus2018-02-21
261Lazarus2018-02-17
261Lazarus2017-07-21
261Balder2018-02-09
261Balder2018-01-21
261Balder2018-01-20
260Lazarus2018-03-12
260Lazarus2018-03-02
260Lazarus2017-07-30
260Balder2018-03-17
260Balder2018-02-13
260Balder2018-02-12
260Balder2018-02-11
260Balder2018-02-10
259Lazarus2018-03-11
259Lazarus2018-03-10
259Lazarus2018-03-04
259Lazarus2018-02-20
259Lazarus2018-02-19
259Lazarus2018-02-16
259Balder2018-02-14
259Balder2018-01-19
258Lazarus2018-03-03
258Lazarus2018-02-18
258Balder2018-02-15
257Lazarus2018-02-15
257Balder2018-02-18
257Balder2018-02-17
257Balder2018-02-16
256Balder2018-02-23
256Balder2018-02-19
256Balder2018-01-18
255Lazarus2018-02-14
255Balder2018-02-22
255Balder2018-02-20
254Lazarus2018-02-13
254Balder2018-02-24
253Lazarus2017-07-20
253Balder2018-02-21
253Balder2018-01-17
252Lazarus2017-07-19
252Balder2018-02-25
251Balder2018-01-16
251Balder2018-01-15
250Lazarus2018-02-12
250Balder2018-02-27
250Balder2018-02-26
250Balder2018-01-13
249Lazarus2018-02-11


(Delegate Votes is one more than the Delegate nation's valid endorsements at update)
(The dates represent the date in US Eastern time in which the major update from which the data point is ended)

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Postby Ikania » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:22 pm

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Lenlyvit wrote:The battle of Stamford Bridge Tim. You know, where the English beat the Vikings? :p

Edit: Just before the English were defeated by William the Conquerer

I dunno, I can't recall Chelsea playing against any Norwegian teams at home ;)

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Postby Salvarity » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:42 pm

Solorni wrote:Balder will make York Jórvík again. Although it would be funny if Balder purposefully raided only British regions because of the history of invading the British isles...


I'd prefer if we let British Isles rest. Tyvm
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Postby Solorni » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:40 pm

Salvarity wrote:
Solorni wrote:Balder will make York Jórvík again. Although it would be funny if Balder purposefully raided only British regions because of the history of invading the British isles...


I'd prefer if we let British Isles rest. Tyvm

Sorry, but your region is run by pretenders. Cnut and his decedents are the only people who deserve to sit on the throne.

Oh, the other idea I had for specialized Viking raiding was targeting Christian regions like how the vikings terrorized monasteries and such. We'd call them heathens and such.
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Postby Ikania » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:43 pm

Solorni wrote:
Salvarity wrote:
I'd prefer if we let British Isles rest. Tyvm

Sorry, but your region is run by pretenders. Cnut and his decedents are the only people who deserve to sit on the throne.

Oh, the other idea I had for specialized Viking raiding was targeting Christian regions like how the vikings terrorized monasteries and such. We'd call them heathens and such.

You'd probably end up being accused of hate crimes.
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Postby Th Empire of Wymondham » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:39 am

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Lenlyvit wrote:The battle of Stamford Bridge Tim. You know, where the English beat the Vikings? :p

Edit: Just before the English were defeated by William the Conquerer

I dunno, I can't recall Chelsea playing against any Norwegian teams at home ;)

Well Tim, if they don't make top four they will probably play one next year in the *smirks* Europa League.
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Postby Miporin » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:06 am

Lenlyvit wrote:
Tim-Opolis wrote:A stadium of a plastic ass team that likely won't even make Top 4 this season? It's not the most flattering picture to paint.

The battle of Stamford Bridge Tim. You know, where the English beat the Vikings? :p

Edit: Just before the English were defeated by William the Conquerer

The Vikings play the wrong kind of football, Lenly. Gosh. :p
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:36 pm

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God, Rach, just let it go. You can't hold onto grudges like that. #LuxembourgDidNothingWrong

Are... are we even reading the same GP forum? :blink: I thought something like 75% of this joint was about the years-long grudges.


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Postby Solorni » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:56 am

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Solorni wrote:Balder will make York Jórvík again. Although it would be funny if Balder purposefully raided only British regions because of the history of invading the British isles...

The British Isles, off you go then :D

I did not know this was NES' region until he told me a couple days ago lol....

What other secrets is he hiding?!?
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:58 am

Solorni wrote:I did not know this was NES' region until he told me a couple days ago lol....

What other secrets is he hiding?!?

In that case you've nearly got permission to raid it :P
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:21 am

Now that Osiris and the West Pacific have withdrawn, is Balder really committed to remaining the only region to officially support the Lone Wolves United takeover of Lazarus, despite also being the only region to have a treaty with the Dominion of Lazarus that should prevent you from supporting LWU?

Why you have alliances at all at this point is anyone's guess, but I hope your allies will look at your conduct here and in the past and reevaluate.

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Postby Onderkelkia » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:49 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Now that Osiris and the West Pacific have withdrawn, is Balder really committed to remaining the only region to officially support the Lone Wolves United takeover of Lazarus, despite also being the only region to have a treaty with the Dominion of Lazarus that should prevent you from supporting LWU?

Why you have alliances at all at this point is anyone's guess, but I hope your allies will look at your conduct here and in the past and reevaluate.

Balder is "really" going to keep supporting the legitimate and sovereign government of Lazarus, yes. In other words, we will do exactly what we have repeatedly and publicly said we are going to do. When nothing has changed in Lazarus since we set out our position, why would our policy change?

You have already been advised by the Statsminister exactly why your interpretation of the Treaty of Regenesis is incorrect. It extends recognition to "any legitimate successor governments", whereas the typical wording of such clauses in Balder's treaties is "any legally-enacted successor governments". There is a distinction. The presence of legitimacy is ultimately a political judgement in relation to which regions can draw on a variety of considerations beyond whether a legal process was followed. The wording of such clauses is a choice that sovereign regions are entitled to make they enter into treaties. In any case where Balder has entered into a treaty with any region, Balder will always faithfully uphold the specific treaty terms in our relations with that region.

Balder is honouring its alliance by providing support to Lazarus, not breaking it. You can keep complaining, but that has no effect on our decisions.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:51 am

Onderkelkia wrote:You can keep complaining, but that has no effect on our decisions.

I suppose I'll just have to come up with something that might have an effect, then. Stay tuned!

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Postby Solorni » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:25 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Onderkelkia wrote:You can keep complaining, but that has no effect on our decisions.

I suppose I'll just have to come up with something that might have an effect, then. Stay tuned!

Is that a threat?
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