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Postby Siwale » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:48 am

Congrats to the award recipients!

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Nice to see that the awards are pretty spread out among different people :)

Now please accept/deny my cit application already >_> Thanks!
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:33 pm

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I take it that this would be the scheduled timing for that coup you keep promising to inflict on us.

With all the internal troubles of The South Pacific and the utter degradation of Albion, it is genuinely sad to see that Roavin and Cassius have nothing better to do than think about destroying another region as well as their own homes. Happily, our community is much stronger and more resilient than you think.

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Congratulations to the recipients of the awards!
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Postby Tupelope » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:32 pm

Onder Kelkia wrote:Statsminister's Award for Military Service

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?????
wat military?
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Congratulations to the awardees :)
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Postby Onder Kelkia » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:35 pm

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Impending Termination of the Treaty between Balder and Osiris

The Government of Balder hereby announces that it is requesting that the Storting of Balder repeal the Treaty of The Ancient Gods between Balder and Osiris with immediate effect. This follows disrespect towards Balder revealed in Osiris's recent statement terminating its alliance with Europeia and the ensuing discussions.

Initially, in the course of negotiations between Balder and Osiris, a determination was made to terminate in-game embassy relations between the two regions after it was indicated that no settlement was possible. Following further discussions, Balder determined that the end of the treaty could be conducted on an amicable basis without the cancellation of in-game embassies. We have accordingly cancelled the de-construction of in-game embassies.
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All i have to say is: LMAOOOOOO
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I have nothing to offer but the warmest of congratulations for Osiris.
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Postby Ryccia » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:53 pm

So, you argue for literally one day, and a years-long alliance falls apart because you feel like it. No remedies, no talking it out, no serious attempts to reconciliate with Osiris. Just kill that treaty.

Balder, get your shit together.

Also, it is interesting that Onder, the Statsminster of Balder and thus Head of the Government, ordered the closure, but Solorni, a totally, absolutely powerless Queen with no decisions over foreign affairs, stopped it. Strange that. And I don't think you can do these serious discussions within a day. This was an unilateral decision on Balder's part. If you can prove me wrong, do so accordingly.
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This has been a good day for GP salt-mining and popcorn selling.
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Postby Onderkelkia » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:06 pm

Ryccia wrote:So, you argue for literally one day, and a years-long alliance falls apart because you feel like it. No remedies, no talking it out, no serious attempts to reconciliate with Osiris. Just kill that treaty.

It is indeed regrettable. Osiris is not the oldest ally of Balder, nor is Osiris the ally with which we are necessarily most ideologically aligned. Nonetheless, we have always placed a special value on our relationship with Osiris as our sister sinker. As it is, considering all the circumstances, Balder feels that that an amicable end to the alliance is the only appropriate decision for a sustainable relationship going forward. The decision was not taken lightly.

Ryccia wrote:Also, it is interesting that Onder, the Statsminster of Balder and thus Head of the Government, ordered the closure, but Solorni, a totally, absolutely powerless Queen with no decisions over foreign affairs, stopped it. Strange that. And I don't think you can do these serious discussions within a day. This was an unilateral decision on Balder's part. If you can prove me wrong, do so accordingly.

As the in-game World Assembly Delegate, the Queen has a specific statutory power to veto the construction or de-construction of in-game embassies, which exists separate from the general grant of executive authority to the Statsminister. However, in this case, the decision to cancel de-construction of embassies was a mutual decision within Balder reached following the renewal of negotiations with Osiris, after talks had previously drawn to a close.
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Postby Syberis » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:06 pm

Onder Kelkia wrote:
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Impending Termination of the Treaty between Balder and Osiris

The Government of Balder hereby announces that it is requesting that the Storting of Balder repeal the Treaty of The Ancient Gods between Balder and Osiris with immediate effect. This follows disrespect towards Balder revealed in Osiris's recent statement terminating its alliance with Europeia and the ensuing discussions.

Initially, in the course of negotiations between Balder and Osiris, a determination was made to terminate in-game embassy relations between the two regions after it was indicated that no settlement was possible. Following further discussions, Balder determined that the end of the treaty could be conducted on an amicable basis without the cancellation of in-game embassies. We have accordingly cancelled the de-construction of in-game embassies.


Hilariously, this alone isn't legally binding. You have to post it on our forum too. Haven't seen that yet.
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Postby Onderkelkia » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:09 pm

Syberis wrote:
Onder Kelkia wrote:
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Impending Termination of the Treaty between Balder and Osiris

The Government of Balder hereby announces that it is requesting that the Storting of Balder repeal the Treaty of The Ancient Gods between Balder and Osiris with immediate effect. This follows disrespect towards Balder revealed in Osiris's recent statement terminating its alliance with Europeia and the ensuing discussions.

Initially, in the course of negotiations between Balder and Osiris, a determination was made to terminate in-game embassy relations between the two regions after it was indicated that no settlement was possible. Following further discussions, Balder determined that the end of the treaty could be conducted on an amicable basis without the cancellation of in-game embassies. We have accordingly cancelled the de-construction of in-game embassies.


Hilariously, this alone isn't legally binding. You have to post it on our forum too. Haven't seen that yet.

Formal notification to Osiris will follow the vote of the Storting. The Pharaoh and I have discussed this.

At this stage, what has been announced is the Government's request that the Storting terminates the treaty with immediate effect. Assuming that the Storting agrees with the Government, notification to Osiris will come after that. The Cabinet is not vested with a unilateral right to repeal treaties.
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Postby Syberis » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:12 pm

I await a speedy and unanimous resolution.
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Zaolat wrote:WHO THE F*** IS SYBERIS

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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:24 pm

Okay then...

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:15 pm

I hadn't seen this statement before asking in Osiris' embassy if Balder intended to hold Onder accountable for violating our treaty. I should have known.

Honestly, good riddance to this alliance. It's been more trouble than it's worth for years, and Osiris is better off without Balder, Europeia, and The LKE. More doors will open for Osiris here than will close, but the same is not true for Balder. I do appreciate Rach trying to let cooler heads prevail earlier, but unfortunately, it's Onder and The LKE who control Balder, not Balderans -- not even their Monarch and Delegate, who, while she has her flaws (as we all do), is at least genuinely dedicated to Balder and not just to what Balder can do for her userite sphere and ideology. It's a shame to see people like Onder in control of Balder now when Rach worked so hard for so long to make it a thriving, active community. This is what userite imperialism in decay looks like. It's ugly, but ultimately it's what Balder deserves after years of letting imperialist leeches suck the life out of the region.

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Postby Th Empire of Wymondham » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:37 am

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Postby Consular » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:39 am

disrespect??? LOL

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Postby Armaros » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:40 am

How has Osiris shown disrespect to you?

Not entirely sure how you can blame this on Osiris, but you found a way. Also, maybe you shouldn't close off embassies and then cancel that a few hours later. Looks a bit silly.
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:34 am

Syberis wrote:Hilariously, this alone isn't legally binding. You have to post it on our forum too. Haven't seen that yet.


You could always ban them, like they did to TSP when we tried posting our repeal statement on their forum ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:26 am

What the fuck, Balder?
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Postby Consular » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:16 am

Honestly, there is one particular region, out of the three regions involved here, that has shown an incredible amount of "disrespect". I don't wanna name names, but that region starts with B and ends in Balder. Because it's Balder.

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Postby The Tri State Area and Maine » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:35 am

Consular wrote:Honestly, there is one particular region, out of the three regions involved here, that has shown an incredible amount of "disrespect". I don't wanna name names, but that region starts with B and ends in Balder. Because it's Balder.


Is it Osiris?

On a serious note, as said by literally everyone else, this is pretty dumb.
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Postby Consular » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:36 am

The Tri State Area and Maine wrote:
Consular wrote:Honestly, there is one particular region, out of the three regions involved here, that has shown an incredible amount of "disrespect". I don't wanna name names, but that region starts with B and ends in Balder. Because it's Balder.


Is it Osiris?

As I said, I think it's best if we don't name names.

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