Balder - State Opening of 19th Storting

[Onder Kelkia]

if I said any of the productive things I had to say about Balder, I would then be putting more effort into that region than their government.

What a silly thing to say.

You are doing nothing but revealing your ignorance about the work performed daily by the members of our government.

[Syberis]

if I said any of the productive things I had to say about Balder, I would then be putting more effort into that region than their government.

What a silly thing to say.

You are doing nothing but revealing your ignorance about the work performed daily by the members of our government.

....In Euro.

Edit: Forgot the LKE

[Tim-Opolis]

if I said any of the productive things I had to say about Balder, I would then be putting more effort into that region than their government.

What a silly thing to say.

You are doing nothing but revealing your ignorance about the work performed daily by the members of our government.

I'm quoting this for the purposes of securing evidence that Onderkelkia does apparently have the ability to not write a pointless essay for every one of his posts.

[The Church of Satan]

I'm quoting this for the purposes of securing evidence that Onderkelkia does apparently have the ability to not write a pointless essay for every one of his posts.

I've actually gained an appreciation for those long essays over the years. Oh crap, that's been Onder's plan all along!

Getting back on topic, congratulations to Balder's legislators and the ministers.

[Onder Kelkia]

What a silly thing to say.

You are doing nothing but revealing your ignorance about the work performed daily by the members of our government.

....In Euro.

Edit: Forgot the LKE

Again, this has no basis in reality.

Of the seven members of the Statsraadet (the Cabinet of Balder), I am the only citizen of Europeia. Linkin and I are the only citzens of the LKE. That leaves five members of the Cabinet who have no role in Europeia or the LKE and don't do any work in those regions. In fact, no member of the Balder Cabinet serves as a member of any other region's cabinet, so all day-to-day ministerial-type roles held by members of the Statsraadet are exclusively in Balder.

All members of the government are working hard on behalf of Balder.

[Consular]

Working hard on what lol. Doing nothing must be exhausting

[Syberis]

Working hard on what lol. Doing nothing must be exhausting

Pretty much. What exactly does Balder do other than get really angry when people say they don't do stuff? Or when people dare talk without agreeing with Balder. Or when people dare talk and don't falsely claim to speak for their region as a whole.

[Onder Kelkia]

Working hard on what lol. Doing nothing must be exhausting

Pretty much. What exactly does Balder do other than get really angry when people say they don't do stuff? Or when people dare talk without agreeing with Balder. Or when people dare talk and don't falsely claim to speak for their region as a whole.

Not that it is any of your concern, but each of our 6 departmental ministers works on 3 or 4 priorities/tasks set by the Statsminister on a bi-weekly basis. These range from one-off events, such as organising an autumn fair on Discord featuring a chess tournament, updating training materials for the Jomsvikings and drafting new explanatory game-side disptatches for the Balder WA Expedition, to recurring/long-term activities, such as a implementing a mentorship programme to support new members of the region and submitting recommendations to the Delegate and Statsminister on World Assembly resolutions.

It is wholly irrational to assume that nothing goes on inside a region beyond what you perceive in a one-sided view of its GP forum interactions.

[Austerain]

Wishing Balder's new administration a productive term!

[Glacikaldr]

A coup? Oh... nevermind then.

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I mean, come on. Do any of you have anything productive to say about Balder, other than "yeah you shit"? Starting to understand why so many people despise GP.

What do you expect, people to bow down and praise a decrepit system with as much inertia as the NPO?

I wish Balder's newly elected government good luck from Lazarus! I've had a lot of fun in your region over the last year, and I'm excited to see where you take it from here.

Didn't Balder actively oppose the current government of Lazarus? Your approach to foreign policy is interesting.

"Don't be mean to Balder, they don't deserve it."

[Onder Kelkia]

A coup? Oh... nevermind then.

Deputy Officer of Foreign Affairs, The Rejected Realms's support for a coup of Balder is duly noted.

As for the comments more generally, for many years Balder has come to expect the immaturity and hostile intentions on display here.

[Drop Your Pants]

Is it still a coup if all you're doing is cutting out the dead wood? Give the saplings a chance to grow man.

[Frattastan IV]

A coup? Oh... nevermind then.

Deputy Officer of Foreign Affairs, The Rejected Realms's support for a coup of Balder is duly noted.

Yes, "a coup 'lol'?" is TRR supporting a coup of Balder.

[Onder Kelkia]

Deputy Officer of Foreign Affairs, The Rejected Realms's support for a coup of Balder is duly noted.

Yes, "a coup 'lol'?" is TRR supporting a coup of Balder.

Yes, unequivocally so. To quote in full, Glacikaldr said: "A coup? Oh... nevermind then."

Expressing disappointment at the absence of a coup is equivalent to expressing support for a hypothetical coup.

If you don't genuinely support a coup of Balder - as impossible as that is - then I suggest that you maintain tighter control of what your officials say.

[Aclion]

Is it still a coup if all you're doing is cutting out the dead wood? Give the saplings a chance to grow man.

More of a cull.

[Frattastan IV]

Better to call on your allies to prepare a full statement about it, then. Maybe the President of Europeia or the Delegate of The North Pacific will personally come in this topic to denounce the coup.

This coming from the person that invaded TRR on behalf of a defunct region and still boasts about it in his forum signature, who tries to inject his personal dislike of TRR wherever he goes, and who tried to disown his own head of state's criticism of our region by pretending that her opinion didn't reflect Balder opinion is ridiculous.

Construing Glacikaldr's joking comment as indicative of a plan to coup Balder is absolute nonsense.

Your special kind of logic is noted.

[Syberis]

A coup? Oh... nevermind then.

Deputy Officer of Foreign Affairs, The Rejected Realms's support for a coup of Balder is duly noted.

As for the comments more generally, for many years Balder has come to expect the immaturity and hostile intentions on display here.

Fun fact, Onder. Individuals can speak for themselves without speaking for the region, and generally are assumed to do so unless they're of a sufficiently high title. Deputy Officer of FA is not one of those sufficiently high titles. Additionally, it's a fairly obvious joke, and a running one in general whenever literally any negative opinion about a GCR exists. You must be aware of that by now.

Though, then you wouldn't get to vaguepost threateningly in order to get people who dissent to shut up. So, I suppose, you do you. <3

[Roavin]

I'm just gonna leave this here.

The Queen's comments are made in a personal capacity.

[Onder Kelkia]

Construing Glacikaldr's joking comment as indicative of a plan to coup Balder is absolute nonsense.

Who said anything about "a plan to coup Balder"?

Glacikaldr can express support for the idea of hypothetically couping Balder without being a participant in a plan to do so. It is still unacceptable.

You are intelligent enough to understand the distinction. Your deliberate obtuseness reflects that you realise it is unacceptable.

Better to call on your allies to prepare a full statement about it, then. Maybe the President of Europeia or the Delegate of The North Pacific will personally come in this topic to denounce the coup.

While Glacikaldr's comment is unacceptable, I don't think that is a proportionate response. You refer to "the coup", but there is no coup; just hypothetical support for the idea of a coup. Balder and our allies can draw our own conclusions about The Rejected Realms's hostility to Balder in the long run.

This coming from the person that invaded TRR on behalf of a defunct region and still boasts about it in his forum signature, who tries to inject his personal dislike of TRR wherever he goes, and who tried to disown his own head of state's criticism of our region by pretending that her opinion didn't reflect Balder opinion is ridiculous.

On the contrary, my former dominion retains a place of affection in my heart. My signature doesn't boast about anything. It contains a factual statement about a position I previously held as an officer of The New Inquisition, recorded in your regional history. It is a shame that TRR officials have repeatedly acted in ways evincing hostility to Balder at points when Balder's government ignored TRR or otherwise I would today be better disposed to your region.

The Queen's criticism may not have been the official position of the government at the time. However, some within The Rejected Ralms have done all they can to justify the Queen's sentiment. It would be impossible to deny today that official and public opinion within Balder is unfavourable to TRR. Despite that, I have for a few months considered a proposal to Balder's lift proscription of TRR - not as a move towards re-opening relations, but due to the lack of recent incidents to warrant a measure of that severity. It is fortunate that your Deputy Foreign Minister's comments have opened my eyes on that question.

[Syberis]

I'm just gonna leave this here.

The Queen's comments are made in a personal capacity.

Roavin, that's totally different. She's just a low-level delegate, not an incredibly important and influential Deputy Foreign Affairs Officer.

Onder, I think you missed Roavin's point so badly you actually managed to endorse Aleisyr. Additionally, it's rather obvious you never intended to drop that at all, but are instead using it as a threat of a thing that was never openly discussed being removed here. It's the equivalent of "I was going to secretly take you for ice cream, but you were bad, so bleh" that every parent pulls to punish their kid without punishing it. I once thought that you were better than puling that. Thank you for opening my eyes.

[Onder Kelkia]

Onder, I think you missed Roavin's point so badly you actually managed to endorse Aleisyr.

I wasn't replying to Roavin. His position on couping Balder is even clearer than Glacikaldr's, as Roavin has been openly and expressely party to a futile plot to achieve that end, even back when he was Prime Minister of The South Pacific.

Balder's position on the distinction between executive and non-executive offices has been discussed previously. I see no reason to re-state it. In this case, in fact, the more relevant point is that the behaviour of The Rejected Realms has moved the region as a whole to share the sentiments of the Queen.

Additionally, it's rather obvious you never intended to drop that at all, but are instead using it as a threat of a thing that was never openly discussed being removed here.

The question of potentially trimming down the list of proscribed regions has been an ongoing discussion in our government since early July, with The Rejected Realms being the main region where I thought a change might be merited. We keep proscriptions under review. They don't have to last forever.

With one statement after another, your comments throughout this discussion have revealed ignorance about the reality of Balder's government.

[Syberis]

Onder, I think you missed Roavin's point so badly you actually managed to endorse Aleisyr.

I wasn't replying to Roavin. His position on couping Balder is even clearer than Glacikaldr's, as Roavin has been openly and expressely party to a futile plot to achieve that end, even back when he was Prime Minister of The South Pacific.

Balder's position on the distinction between executive and non-executive offices has been discussed previously. I see no reason to re-state it. In this case, in fact, the more relevant point is that the behaviour of The Rejected Realms has moved the region as a whole to share the sentiments of the Queen.

Additionally, it's rather obvious you never intended to drop that at all, but are instead using it as a threat of a thing that was never openly discussed being removed here.

The question of potentially trimming down the list of proscribed regions has been an ongoing discussion in our government since early July, with The Rejected Realms being the main region where I thought a change might be merited. We keep proscriptions under review. They don't have to last forever.

With one statement after another, your comments throughout this discussion have revealed ignorance about the reality of Balder's government.

Shoot me the logs of that discussion then. You know how to reach me. Additionally, I would say that TRR being proscribed might be a badge of honor at this point. I'm still waiting for my PNG so I can hang it on my wall, dude.

[Roavin]

Additionally, I would say that TRR being proscribed might be a badge of honor at this point. I'm still waiting for my PNG so I can hang it on my wall, dude.

I was double proscribed for a while but never got a the personal PNG. Obviously, my ambitions are in my GP sig, as Onder noted. WHAT ELSE DOES IT TAKE!?!?

[Onder Kelkia]

I wasn't replying to Roavin. His position on couping Balder is even clearer than Glacikaldr's, as Roavin has been openly and expressely party to a futile plot to achieve that end, even back when he was Prime Minister of The South Pacific.

Balder's position on the distinction between executive and non-executive offices has been discussed previously. I see no reason to re-state it. In this case, in fact, the more relevant point is that the behaviour of The Rejected Realms has moved the region as a whole to share the sentiments of the Queen.


The question of potentially trimming down the list of proscribed regions has been an ongoing discussion in our government since early July, with The Rejected Realms being the main region where I thought a change might be merited. We keep proscriptions under review. They don't have to last forever.

With one statement after another, your comments throughout this discussion have revealed ignorance about the reality of Balder's government.

Shoot me the logs of that discussion then. You know how to reach me.

Why exactly would I send the contents of an ongoing discussion thread in Balder's cabinet forum, involving discussions of multiple regions, to someone who not only isn't a member of the Balder Cabinet, but to someone who has previously been declared persona non grata for their hostility to Balder?

No self-respecting region would grant access to its cabinet discussions to a non-authorised person on demand.

Balder has been entertaining changes to our proscription list as part of a routine review process. The Rejected Realms was the most obvious candidate for removal among those regions on the existing list (relative to, for example, the Grey Wardens or The South Pacific). I don't know why that is so surprising.

I'm still waiting for my PNG so I can hang it on my wall, dude.

You were declared persona non grata on 16 September. We don't normally issue announcements for such decisions. We just edit the relevant accounts.

For someone who is so unfamiliar with Balder and has no access to our forums, you have been pontificating rather a lot about our government here.

[Syberis]

That's very odd. Your queen told me I was not PNG last we spoke. Can I get a copy for my wall?

Additionally, that's my point. If it's not public discussion and not publicly known, we have no evidence the discussion in regards to TRR ever happened. So, due to my own experiences with Balder's more publicly-oriented members, I can assume it didn't happen. Because Balder's people are prone to lying about the condition of anything at any time, ever.