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Postby Consular » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:27 pm

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Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Altino, I thought I made clear that that alternative didn’t have to be a straight democracy, so I’m a little sad that you started your reply based around that assumption, and not sure if you really read what I was saying based on that and the rest of your reply :P

The options that actually exist are democracy or Delegate-based. There could, in theory, be a third option, but there isn't right now, not in GCRs anyway, and never has been -- which strongly implies there is never going to be a third option. So when you're saying Delegate-based government is unstable and prone to rocky transitions, in context it seems like you're arguing that democracy is preferable to Delegate-based.

And in this specific context, a dispute between Balder and Osiris, it seems like you're arguing that Balder is preferable to Osiris.

That may not have been your intention, but that's how it came across to me and, I think, a fair few other people.

I'm a bit confused -- are people pretending Balder is a democracy?

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:45 pm

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Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Altino, I thought I made clear that that alternative didn’t have to be a straight democracy, so I’m a little sad that you started your reply based around that assumption, and not sure if you really read what I was saying based on that and the rest of your reply :P

The options that actually exist are democracy or Delegate-based. There could, in theory, be a third option, but there isn't right now, not in GCRs anyway, and never has been -- which strongly implies there is never going to be a third option. So when you're saying Delegate-based government is unstable and prone to rocky transitions, in context it seems like you're arguing that democracy is preferable to Delegate-based.

And in this specific context, a dispute between Balder and Osiris, it seems like you're arguing that Balder is preferable to Osiris.

That may not have been your intention, but that's how it came across to me and, I think, a fair few other people.


I don't want to dive deeply off topic in Balder's thread again, but delegate-centric structures don't have to be all power and direction to said delegate, nor do structures not centered around any single figure have to be democratic.
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Postby Zander Cerebella » Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:21 am

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The Realm of Balder is delighted to announce the conclusion of the October 2018 Storting elections and the formation of the Government for the coming term.

Following a competitive race, incumbent legislators OnderKelkia, Linkin Talleyrand and Akillian Talleyrand were re-elected to new terms with a strong show of public support. They are joined in the Storting by Aexnidaral Seymour and Zander Cerebella, who return to the legislature after a break in service covering the previous term.

The newly convened Storting unanimously nominated OnderKelkia for the office of Statsminister. Her Nordic Majesty the Queen was accordingly pleased to re-appoint OnderKelkia as Statsminister. The Storting also unanimously elected Linkin Talleyrand as Lawspeaker.

Statsminister OnderKelkia quickly announced the new membership of the Statsraadet, re-establishing the position of Minister of Gameside Affairs, which had been abolished several terms ago. This additional game-side post will complement the roles of the Minister of Integration and the Minister of Culture in supporting regional domestic affairs on the off-site forums and Discord server. In full, the ministers appointed by the Statsminister are as follows:

Minister of Foreign Affairs – Zander Cerebella
Minister of Integration – Fuzzy
Minister of War – Linkin Talleyrand
Minister of Culture – Cinder
Minister of World Assembly Affairs – Griffindor13
Minister of Gameside Affairs – Bran Triune

In partnership with the citizenry as a whole, the Statsraadet looks forward to consolidating and advancing the security and community of Balder.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:15 am

Btw, your OP nation is currently CTEd

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Postby Zander Cerebella » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:56 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:Btw, your OP nation is currently CTEd

We know. Have to wait for Rach to be online since it's her nation. Timezones don't help for weekday update posting unfortunately.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:24 pm

Zander Cerebella wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:Btw, your OP nation is currently CTEd

We know. Have to wait for Rach to be online since it's her nation. Timezones don't help for weekday update posting unfortunately.

Cool, carry on

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:03 pm

Congratulations to mostly the same old people being elected and appointed to the same old offices! How thrilling. Don't let the excitement go too far.

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Postby Consular » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:32 pm

"New" Cabinet

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Postby Feux » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:32 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Congratulations to mostly the same old people being elected and appointed to the same old offices! How thrilling. Don't let the excitement go too far.

The title of the thread is a bit misleading.
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Postby Syberis » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:57 am

Feux wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Congratulations to mostly the same old people being elected and appointed to the same old offices! How thrilling. Don't let the excitement go too far.

The title of the thread is a bit misleading.


Agreed. I got excited for a moment.
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Postby Malphe » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:43 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Congratulations to mostly the same old people being elected and appointed to the same old offices! How thrilling. Don't let the excitement go too far.

Consular wrote:"New" Cabinet

Syberis wrote:
Feux wrote:The title of the thread is a bit misleading.


Agreed. I got excited for a moment.

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I mean, come on. Do any of you have anything productive to say about Balder, other than "yeah you shit"? Starting to understand why so many people despise GP.
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Postby Salvarity » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:26 pm

Malphe wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Congratulations to mostly the same old people being elected and appointed to the same old offices! How thrilling. Don't let the excitement go too far.

Consular wrote:"New" Cabinet

Syberis wrote:
Agreed. I got excited for a moment.

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I mean, come on. Do any of you have anything productive to say about Balder, other than "yeah you shit"? Starting to understand why so many people despise GP.


What do you expect, people to bow down and praise a decrepit system with as much inertia as the NPO?
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:40 pm

Salvarity wrote:
Malphe wrote:

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I mean, come on. Do any of you have anything productive to say about Balder, other than "yeah you shit"? Starting to understand why so many people despise GP.


What do you expect, people to bow down and praise a decrepit system with as much inertia as the NPO?

Come on, Tom. You can't insult our fellow "Defender-Francoists" like that.
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Postby Cotolon » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:01 pm

I found the wording a bit odd. Shouldn't community come before security? :blush:

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Postby Malphe » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:46 pm

Salvarity wrote:
Malphe wrote:

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I mean, come on. Do any of you have anything productive to say about Balder, other than "yeah you shit"? Starting to understand why so many people despise GP.


What do you expect, people to bow down and praise a decrepit system with as much inertia as the NPO?

Not at all, dislike Balder or the LKE or any other region as much as you like, but have the common courtesy and consideration to not shit on every single thing they post. If every thing I posted for my region was shit on like that I'd be pretty disheartened.
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Postby Weed » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:46 pm

Malphe wrote:
Salvarity wrote:
What do you expect, people to bow down and praise a decrepit system with as much inertia as the NPO?

Not at all, dislike Balder or the LKE or any other region as much as you like, but have the common courtesy and consideration to not shit on every single thing they post. If every thing I posted for my region was shit on like that I'd be pretty disheartened.

Agreed, it is definitely a bit much. >.<
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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:55 pm

It's trendy to hate Balder.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:53 pm

Differences and criticisms aside, happy seventh birthday (or anniversary if you'd prefer) to Balder.

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Postby Consular » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:19 pm

Malphe wrote:Do any of you have anything productive to say about Balder, other than "yeah you shit"?

Nope

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Postby Your Imaginary Friend » Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:55 am

I wish Balder's newly elected government good luck from Lazarus! I've had a lot of fun in your region over the last year, and I'm excited to see where you take it from here. :)

Also, I somehow missed Altino and Soul's discussion earlier. Really interesting topic... you both brought up some things that have been floating around in my head for a while but I hadn't thought through yet. It's easy to forget to include newer players when doing tasks because they don't know what to do yet and it takes your time to teach them, but thank you for the reminder to put in that effort to help your region remain self-sufficient, interesting and full of competent people. <3
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Postby Feux » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:07 am

Malphe wrote:
Salvarity wrote:
What do you expect, people to bow down and praise a decrepit system with as much inertia as the NPO?

Not at all, dislike Balder or the LKE or any other region as much as you like, but have the common courtesy and consideration to not shit on every single thing they post. If every thing I posted for my region was shit on like that I'd be pretty disheartened.

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Postby Unibot III » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:01 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:Differences and criticisms aside, happy seventh birthday (or anniversary if you'd prefer) to Balder.


Oh god, I feel old again.

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Postby Consular » Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:16 pm

Your Imaginary Friend wrote:I wish Balder's newly elected government good luck from Lazarus! I've had a lot of fun in your region over the last year, and I'm excited to see where you take it from here. :)

Also, I somehow missed Altino and Soul's discussion earlier. Really interesting topic... you both brought up some things that have been floating around in my head for a while but I hadn't thought through yet. It's easy to forget to include newer players when doing tasks because they don't know what to do yet and it takes your time to teach them, but thank you for the reminder to put in that effort to help your region remain self-sufficient, interesting and full of competent people. <3

Didn't Balder actively oppose the current government of Lazarus? Your approach to foreign policy is interesting.

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Postby Syberis » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:26 am

Malphe wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Congratulations to mostly the same old people being elected and appointed to the same old offices! How thrilling. Don't let the excitement go too far.

Consular wrote:"New" Cabinet

Syberis wrote:
Agreed. I got excited for a moment.

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I mean, come on. Do any of you have anything productive to say about Balder, other than "yeah you shit"? Starting to understand why so many people despise GP.


Just came back and saw this. My stance is quite simply that if I said any of the productive things I had to say about Balder, I would then be putting more effort into that region than their government.
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