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Postby Pergamon » Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:58 pm

Toronina wrote:
North East Somerset wrote:-Snip-

And we trust the words of Balder now? A place who we know is under control of the NPO, why should we trust your words Somerset?


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Postby North East Somerset » Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:38 pm

Toronina wrote:
North East Somerset wrote:-Snip-

And we trust the words of Balder now? A place who we know is under control of the NPO, why should we trust your words Somerset?


Maybe before you seek to assert what "we know" - you should ascertain exactly what you don't know... I fear it may be a great deal. :p
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Postby RiderSyl » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:13 pm

Toronina wrote:
North East Somerset wrote:-Snip-

And we trust the words of Balder now? A place who we know is under control of the NPO, why should we trust your words Somerset?


Balder pretended they were part of the NPO for shits and giggles, but Balder natives actually liked the theme afterwards so they're sticking to it.
At least, that's what it looks like and that's what Balder is claiming. At this point, anything looks suspicious.
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Postby Toronina » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:35 am

Ridersyl wrote:
Toronina wrote:And we trust the words of Balder now? A place who we know is under control of the NPO, why should we trust your words Somerset?


Balder pretended they were part of the NPO for shits and giggles, but Balder natives actually liked the theme afterwards so they're sticking to it.
At least, that's what it looks like and that's what Balder is claiming. At this point, anything looks suspicious.

Seems very fishy to me.
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Postby Toronina » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:39 am

North East Somerset wrote:
Toronina wrote:And we trust the words of Balder now? A place who we know is under control of the NPO, why should we trust your words Somerset?


Maybe before you seek to assert what "we know" - you should ascertain exactly what you don't know... I fear it may be a great deal. :p

Don't play the shites and giggles cards, it's no reason to keep on pretending. Balder has embassys with three known regions supporting the NLO, I see no reason to have embassys with them if you are supposed to be neutral in this conflict.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:36 am

Toronina wrote:Don't play the shites and giggles cards, it's no reason to keep on pretending. Balder has embassys with three known regions supporting the NLO, I see no reason to have embassys with them if you are supposed to be neutral in this conflict.

They want the free press :P
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Postby Solorni » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:47 am

Toronina wrote:
North East Somerset wrote:
Maybe before you seek to assert what "we know" - you should ascertain exactly what you don't know... I fear it may be a great deal. :p

Don't play the shites and giggles cards, it's no reason to keep on pretending. Balder has embassys with three known regions supporting the NLO, I see no reason to have embassys with them if you are supposed to be neutral in this conflict.

Technically I think nearly all if not all the major regions are neutral in this conflict. While there have been statements of disapproval I don't believe any region has declared war on the NPO or NLO
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Postby RiderSyl » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:35 am

Just because a region hasn't given a declaration of war does not mean they're taking the stance of neutrality.
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Postby Saint Edward » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:38 am

Stoojenske is burning more influence than fire in a paper factory.

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Postby Great Brigantia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:42 am

Solorni wrote:Technically I think nearly all if not all the major regions are neutral in this conflict. While there have been statements of disapproval I don't believe any region has declared war on the NPO or NLO

Most of the statements of disapproval have also included support for the Lazarene Underground State (PRL-in-exile). Many of these regions have also been providing military support to liberation operations.

Most regions aren't interested in invading (or liberating, depending on one's perspective) The Pacific, so a declaration of war against the NPO would be unnecessary. And a declaration of war against the NLO is unnecessary in the same way that a declaration of war against The Black Riders for invading and occupying a founderless region is unnecessary -- the NLO isn't a legitimate government, it's an invading and occupying force, so no declaration of war is required.

The regions that have been supporting the Lazarene Underground State include The East Pacific, The North Pacific, The South Pacific, Osiris, The Rejected Realms, Spiritus, Taijitu, Wintreath, the Founderless Regions Alliance, and others. Those are major regions, and they aren't neutral.
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Postby Toronina » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:33 pm

Solorni wrote:
Toronina wrote:Don't play the shites and giggles cards, it's no reason to keep on pretending. Balder has embassys with three known regions supporting the NLO, I see no reason to have embassys with them if you are supposed to be neutral in this conflict.

Technically I think nearly all if not all the major regions are neutral in this conflict. While there have been statements of disapproval I don't believe any region has declared war on the NPO or NLO

Everyone was in a hurry to cancel their embassies with Lazarus, yet Balder has embassies the Lazarus, Communist Bloc (Who ironically are supporting something similar to facism) and The Pacific. Suspicious at minimum
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Postby Terricon » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:38 pm

The USSR will continue to recognize the People's Republic of Lazarus over any other government that claims ownership of the region Lazarus.
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Postby Syrixia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:39 pm

Saint Edward wrote:Stoojenske is burning more influence than fire in a paper factory.


How about we send in a bunch of puppets, do something banject-worthy (in terms of Stujenske's criteria and not normal criteria) and then rinse and repeat? We'd kill his influence and then we could overthrow the NLO! Problem solved!

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Postby Durkadurkiranistan II » Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:10 pm

Syrixia wrote:
Saint Edward wrote:Stoojenske is burning more influence than fire in a paper factory.


How about we send in a bunch of puppets, do something banject-worthy (in terms of Stujenske's criteria and not normal criteria) and then rinse and repeat? We'd kill his influence and then we could overthrow the NLO! Problem solved!

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good idea... can't believe nobody has thought of this before
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:09 pm

Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:
Syrixia wrote:
How about we send in a bunch of puppets, do something banject-worthy (in terms of Stujenske's criteria and not normal criteria) and then rinse and repeat? We'd kill his influence and then we could overthrow the NLO! Problem solved!

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good idea... can't believe nobody has thought of this before

Actually a pretty good idea. As long as you avoid the Wrath of Mod I think we're good.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:12 pm

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:
good idea... can't believe nobody has thought of this before

Actually a pretty good idea. As long as you avoid the Wrath of Mod I think we're good.


Might constitute as harassment, which is no-no.
Howeveh, if you were to constantly try to liberate the region, and wear down his influence, you'll either force a delegate change or wear it down to the point where he can barely banject people anymore.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:14 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Actually a pretty good idea. As long as you avoid the Wrath of Mod I think we're good.


Might constitute as harassment, which is no-no.
Howeveh, if you were to constantly try to liberate the region, and wear down his influence, you'll either force a delegate change or wear it down to the point where he can barely banject people anymore.

It would probably get nailed as Puppet Flooding.
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Postby Durkadurkiranistan II » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:18 pm

there are more effective ways of wearing down influence given time and resources... i am certain that the PRL and their fenda scum bankrollers already know about them and are using them as we speak

also i doubt it qualifies as puppet flooding. osiris moved thousands of useless puppets into the region for me to eject when i was delegate there. i ejected escade's 25 puppets at least 200 times alone.
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Postby Consular » Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:18 pm

So much false history in this thread.

I'm not sure I buy the PRLs claim to legitimacy given it was set up by Feux and Milograd, both of whom are NPO puppets and probably always intended to betray it. It was a facade from the beginning.

I also find it kinda funny that the PRL still uses milos motto when he betrayed them.

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Postby Drakezia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:07 pm

I am really surprised no one made any attempt to force take the delegacy. I guess too many barks with no bite in support for y'all :roll:
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Postby LH God » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:15 pm

Drakezia wrote:I am really surprised no one made any attempt to force take the delegacy. I guess too many barks with no bite in support for y'all :roll:

Whatever you say, Shadoke. :roll:

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Postby Drakezia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:19 pm

My former name doesnt take away from the legitimacy of my view on current events.
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Postby LH God » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:23 pm

Drakezia wrote:My former name doesnt take away from the legitimacy of my view on current events.

The legitimacy of words is tied to the legitimacy of the speaker himself. That being said, a legitimate can have illegitimate views. However, that's not the case for the situation at hand.

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Postby Crazy girl » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:11 am

Durkadurkiranistan II wrote: fenda scum bankrollers



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Postby Ainin » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:48 am

Drakezia wrote:I am really surprised no one made any attempt to force take the delegacy. I guess too many barks with no bite in support for y'all :roll:

Yup, we've just been sitting here for a week hoping that Stujenske has a change in heart and resigns from the WA.
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