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Funkadelia
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People's Republic of Lazarus

Postby Funkadelia » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:15 pm

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Lazarenes, allies, and observers, today I am announcing, as the chosen spokesperson for the citizens of Lazarus, the formation of the People’s Republic of Lazarus in exile. On April 6th, 2015, Stujenske deleted or hid Sections Two and Seven of the People’s Republic constitution. For those readers who are not versed in Lazarene law, those sections are not removable under any conditions.

On April 7th, 2015, Stujenske abolished all law and order in Lazarus by dissolving the constitution - itself an illegal act. Additionally, Stujenske and forum root administrator Feux stripped Funkadelia of his admin position and banned him from the Lazarus forums with no trial, which is also illegal according to the People’s Republic Constitution. Stujenske or forum root administrator Feux then removed People’s Congressmen Toronina and Gulliver from their democratically-elected seats, and deleted three of Gulliver’s attempts to move for a vote of no confidence against Stujenske.

In response to these grievances, we Lazarenes have decided to form the Lazarene Underground State to combat the coup d’etat undertaken by Stujenske and Feux. We will follow the constitutional and statutory law set in place prior to Stujenske’s coup of Lazarus. Lazarus’ network of allies and supporters have been contacted about how to further combat this coup, and updates will be forthcoming.

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Postby Durkadurkiranistan II » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:50 pm

Who is the legal delegate of Lazarus? I was under the impression that the Delegate has sovereign right to unilaterally amend the constitution there. :?:
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Postby Funkadelia » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:54 pm

Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:Who is the legal delegate of Lazarus? I was under the impression that the Delegate has sovereign right to unilaterally amend the constitution there. :?:

Stujenske did not specifically amend the constitution, and it is illegal to repeal the entire thing.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:01 pm

Durkadurkiranistan II wrote:Who is the legal delegate of Lazarus? I was under the impression that the Delegate has sovereign right to unilaterally amend the constitution there. :?:



Section 6

11. The Chairman shall have the authority to amend the Constitution without consultation in order to protect the Republic or preserve the principles of the Revolution. In the event of such an amendment, the Chairman shall make a statement to the People's Congress outlining the justification for the amendment.


While it is his legal right to amend the constitution, it is not within his power to can it altogether.

Section Seven - Regarding Constitutional Amendments and Repeals

1. Section Two of this document may only be added to. Section Seven of this document may not be edited or revised.



Let's look at the definition of the word "edit".

Edit: to expunge; eliminate.
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Postby Meow Zedong » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:30 pm

Revisionism is unacceptable, whether it is committed by the smallest minnow or the Chairman. The Chairman holds his position not because of the will of the people as individuals, but because of the will of the Revolution.

The laws that are set down by the people are subject only to the will of the Revolution. When the Chairman seeks to changes those laws to reflect the spirit of the People as a single public, he must do so within the letter of the law, or within the will of the Revolution.

Time will tell whether he is a revolutionary, or a counterrevolutionary. However, should he seek to surround himself with the garments of the traditionalists and the revisionists - the Imperialists, the Moralist-Defenderists, and the neo-Francoists, then his true colours will shine only the brighter.

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Postby Ainocra » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:47 pm

I find these developments to be disturbing and will monitor this situation closely.
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Postby Consular » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:40 am

"the chosen spokesperson for the citizens of Lazarus"

Chosen how? And representing whom? Are not many of these citizens of Lazarus in fact siding with the current delegate?

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Postby Funkadelia » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:48 am

Consular wrote:"the chosen spokesperson for the citizens of Lazarus"

Chosen how? And representing whom? Are not many of these citizens of Lazarus in fact siding with the current delegate?

Currently 11 citizens are members of the Government in Exile, including 3 Congressmen.

I was chosen by general consensus. I was the main organizing person behind this Government in Exile, and naturally these duties seemed to fall on me. If someone in the group raises objection to that I would certainly be mindful.
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:02 am

Good luck Funk.
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Postby Joshua Ravenclaw » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:03 am

I am also monitoring this situation; I am a strong proponent that a community has the right of self-determination, and this situation has troubled me greatly.

Based on what information is available and has been relayed to me, I consider The Peoples Republic of Lazarus to have ceased to exist following the dissolution of Mandate 8 without a functioning successor government or document produced for approval by their community.

The Lazarene Underground movement, has quite possibly, the largest claim to being the legitimate Government of Lazarus without the factor of the In-Game Delegacy being taken into account simply because they use Mandate 8, the accepted constitution of Lazarus as their governing document which was last supported and agreed upon by the community it served.

As I understand it further, the Lazarene Underground State has passed a motion of No-Confidence and is now holding a plebiscite against Stujenske and Pergamon's leadership.

I wish the citizens of Lazarus good luck as they reconcile the differences in their community and hope to see a functioning, accepted government as per the wishes of the community as soon as possible.
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Postby Toronina » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:13 am

I support Funk in all this. Stujenske has gone to far.
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Postby Desdenea » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:16 am

Imperial Desdenea hereby announces the support and recognition of the government in exile as the legitimate governing body of Lazarus and suggests that The People's Republic of Lazarus found a new region as a base of operations to organize the new government and a counter offensive to liberate Lazarus from its current state.

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Postby Funkadelia » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:34 am

Ridersyl wrote:Good luck Funk.

Thank you. Coups are not okay, and I hope to bring this one to an end eventually.
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Postby Myroria » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:04 am

As far as I'm concerned, Stujenske became associated with petty kings and imperialists the moment he dissolved the judicial district. The banjections and dissolution of the constitution are just icing on the cake.

The Taijitu Foreign Service will recognize the popularly-elected government-in-exile as the legitimate government of the People's Republic of Lazarus. We wish the best of luck to Funkadelia, Church of Satan, Toronina, and every other Lazarene citizens whose rights have been quashed by the Stujenske regime.
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Postby Venico » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:06 am

May this battle be hard fought for both sides and Lazarus see flames a plenty in the future. It is the only way the true community will shine through and hey, defender on defender in fighting only means good things for me.
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Postby Ikania » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:54 am

Good luck Funk (never thought I'd say that again), hopefully the situation is resolved soon.
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Postby Revall » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:58 am

Curious, the lack of commentary by Stujenske and Co must be deliberate.
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Postby Marelius » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:19 am

Venico wrote:May this battle be hard fought for both sides and Lazarus see flames a plenty in the future. It is the only way the true community will shine through and hey, defender on defender in fighting only means good things for me.

I share this opinion. Conflicts like this is what separates the strong parts of the community from the useless ones, and what makes the region's overall strength higher. I will be dropping a sneak peek on the situation here and there.
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:23 am

Long live Stujenske, may he erase the People's Republic of Lazarus from the history books!
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Postby The Church of Satan » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:28 am

Stujenske will be stopped and brought to justice. Hail The People's Republic of Lazarus!
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:31 am

The rest of the thread will basically be the above two posts in so many words, might as well lock it down now :P

I am interested to see how this develops though. I echo Venico's sentiment that both sides should fight hard...it'd be boring to watch otherwise!
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Postby Shogun » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:34 am

*Sniff*

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Postby Nautarya » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:30 am

Revall wrote:Curious, the lack of commentary by Stujenske and Co must be deliberate.

Considering that they've responded to everything from masking bugs to ambassador accreditation requests, but have continued to remain silent about their coup, I'd say that's a fair analysis.
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:34 am

So we have another sink coup? When actual news happens, will someone please wake me up?
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Postby Hobbesistan » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:08 pm

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:So we have another sink coup? When actual news happens, will someone please wake me up?

I'll let you know when a feeder gets couped.
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