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by Solorni » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:28 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:30 pm
Solorni wrote:If we're going to investigate people based on their Empire ties in TSP, I feel like someone here has been throwing a bunch of red meat around to distract people from it. They've even done far more concrete stuff than Bel, if the Empire exists that is. I don't want to name any names though. But it's Cormac
by Glen-Rhodes » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:35 pm
by Unibot III » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:49 pm
Belschaft wrote:Unibot, I would be happy to face any and all criminal charges should the CRS wish to press such - I believe I am capable of proving my innocence in court. The CRS does not, however, seem to have any intention of doing so.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Westwind » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:52 pm
by Glen-Rhodes » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:52 pm
Unibot III wrote:Belschaft wrote:Unibot, I would be happy to face any and all criminal charges should the CRS wish to press such - I believe I am capable of proving my innocence in court. The CRS does not, however, seem to have any intention of doing so.(1) Any past or current member of The South Pacific may lodge a criminal complaint against another individual within the jurisdiction of the South Pacific, or have such done on their behalf by a representative.
Hell, in theory I could lodge the criminal complaint against you. Certainly the justice system is not restricted to complaints from the CRS. From what I understand, the CRS is tied up in political gridlock.
by Biyah » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:22 pm
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Unless I've very much mistaken, Empire worked against the Milo/Mall/JAL-coup of TSP. Did they play a role in Hile's "coup"? Or are we appealing to ancient history here when we discuss their aggression towards TSP?
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:39 pm
Biyah wrote:They (IE, Glen Rhodes) are appealing to an ultra hate of me, personally - not anything the Empire did to TSP.
by Unibot III » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:06 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Unibot III wrote:(1) Any past or current member of The South Pacific may lodge a criminal complaint against another individual within the jurisdiction of the South Pacific, or have such done on their behalf by a representative.
Hell, in theory I could lodge the criminal complaint against you. Certainly the justice system is not restricted to complaints from the CRS. From what I understand, the CRS is tied up in political gridlock.
Not gonna comment on you specifically doing that. But it's funny, because wasn't that provision added at the behest of Belschaft, who wanted to ensure he could take the Cabinet to court if he was declared a security threat again?
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Biyah » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:19 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Biyah wrote:They (IE, Glen Rhodes) are appealing to an ultra hate of me, personally - not anything the Empire did to TSP.
It has nothing to do with you personally. The Empire four have, altogether, perpetrated coups against four Feeders and Sinkers (TEP, TNP, TWP, and Osiris), assisted coups against two others (Lazarus and TSP), and attempted coups against another (TRR). That leaves only two Feeders and Sinkers that have been relatively untouched by Empire, and it probably isn't for lack of trying.
There is nothing odd or mean-spirited about TSP considering you four enemies of the state, or about anyone, anywhere, being concerned to see Empire core members directly influencing three Feeders and Sinkers and indirectly influencing others. What is odd, frankly, is that there is any Feeder or Sinker willing to let any of you in, and I regret that Osiris is among them because of poor decisions I and others made.
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:26 pm
Biyah wrote:What is absolutely fascinating about all this fluff is that you, personally, have conducted more coups and rebellions than Empire (as a whole or in separate) has - in reality AND as accused.
by Mallorea and Riva » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:32 pm
Biyah wrote:Mallorea and Riva wrote:Unless I've very much mistaken, Empire worked against the Milo/Mall/JAL-coup of TSP. Did they play a role in Hile's "coup"? Or are we appealing to ancient history here when we discuss their aggression towards TSP?
Well, no. Empire *members* worked against the TSP coups. I was in the central command for Osiris, working on the strategy. You can confirm that with, well, anyone who was there - but the most logical source is probably Elu. I wasn't even in the game for Hile's coup, and nobody I have spoken with said they were involved. So, yes, ancient history.
They (IE, Glen Rhodes) are appealing to an ultra hate of me, personally - not anything the Empire did to TSP.
~B
Edit: Hit reply too quickly by mistake.
by Biyah » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:05 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Biyah wrote:What is absolutely fascinating about all this fluff is that you, personally, have conducted more coups and rebellions than Empire (as a whole or in separate) has - in reality AND as accused.
I've conducted four coups, assisted two others, and made other unsuccessful attempts? I think not. This is not even to mention that my coups have been confined to one region, rather than spread out among seven.
by Glen-Rhodes » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:28 pm
by Neenee » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:07 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Lol whats this about "they're doing this because they hate Biyah specifically" nonsense? Yeah, I think Osiris is a crap hole largely starting from the moment they didn't ban you for your coup. But TSP's run ins with Empire have been with Neenee, Dali, and their stooges like Wolf, and now NK. Biyah is an Osiris problem.
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:38 pm
Biyah wrote:Tsk. You know as well as I do that the name Empire gets thrown around in accusation without any basis in fact. I am aware of ONE coup, TEP. You could call Osiris one, with the infamous men-in-tights assist, though it only lasted a day - so we'll call it two.
And, off for the day. Have fun dealing in more speculation, I'll read it tonight.
~B
by Mallorea and Riva » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:02 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Biyah wrote:Tsk. You know as well as I do that the name Empire gets thrown around in accusation without any basis in fact. I am aware of ONE coup, TEP. You could call Osiris one, with the infamous men-in-tights assist, though it only lasted a day - so we'll call it two.
And, off for the day. Have fun dealing in more speculation, I'll read it tonight.
~B
Have you forgotten about the coup Dalimbar perpetrated against TNP, the coup you and Neenee perpetrated against TWP, the coup you and Dalimbar assisted in TSP, the coup Neo Kervoskia assisted in Lazarus, and the coups Neenee attempted against TRR?
If so, there's your reminder.
by Biyah » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:17 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:06 pm
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by Jakker » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:22 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:It's mind-boggling that any Feeder or Sinker allows any one of you to participate, particularly in any governing capacity.
The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:28 pm
by Mallorea and Riva » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:30 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:49 pm
by Tim-Opolis » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:55 am
<Koth - 06/30/2020> I mean as far as GPers go, Tim is one of the most iconic
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