The Miniluv Messenger: TEP Liberated!

[Cormactopia Prime]

This looks more like a Bel thing than a NK thing.

NK was the one who asked Bel to be his eyes and ears in TSP, and who agreed to Bel acting as an agent to discourage anti-Osiris/Empire sentiment. It's neither an NK thing nor a Bel thing, it's a both thing.

[Solorni]

This looks more like a Bel thing than a NK thing.

NK was the one who asked Bel to be his eyes and ears in TSP, and who agreed to Bel acting as an agent to discourage anti-Osiris/Empire sentiment. It's neither an NK thing nor a Bel thing, it's a both thing.

If the Empire was back, don't you think I would have heard about it?

[Mallorea and Riva]

What channel within the NSGP server was this log taken from?

[Sygmund]

What channel within the NSGP server was this log taken from?

#neutral_ground last night.

[Belschaft]

I shouldn't comment about this, as it relates to an internal TSP matter in a restricted area, but considering that others have made this public news; since being made aware of the allegations against me on Saturday, I have offered TSP's Committee on Regional Security full cooperation in their investigation, up to and including access to my various accounts such as Discord, etc. I have nothing to hide.

[Mallorea and Riva]

What channel within the NSGP server was this log taken from?

#neutral_ground last night.

And where did it come from originally? On discord? What actual channel was this chat had on?

[Sygmund]

#neutral_ground last night.

And where did it come from originally? On discord? What actual channel was this chat had on?

I'd assume personal messages between NK and Belschaft¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Fratt Armed Forces]

What channel within the NSGP server was this log taken from?

You can stumble upon it on pastebin, although I don't know what channel it was taken from. Presumably a private message.

[Solorni]

"Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between Empireism and Cormacism. The modern champions of Empire have selected this as the time, and ladies and gentlemen, the chips are down — they are truly down."

I think we should aid Cormac in this conflict and root out all Empires from under our beds. We should investigate Fratt & Bel.

[The Stalker]

Hmm is there more to this log? Cause it doesn't seem that insidious.

Belschaft is just like hey anything I can do in TSP to help? Griff asks for a heads up on any threats to Osiris, and expresses interest in eventually reaching out to TSP. Then Bel agrees to help repair relations with Osiris.

That just seems like politics to me.

Though it does seem like the Empire has it's hands in a growing number of feeders.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Hmm is there more to this log? Cause it doesn't seem that insidious.

Belschaft is just like hey anything I can do in TSP to help? Griff asks for a heads up on any threats to Osiris, and expresses interest in eventually reaching out to TSP. Then Bel agrees to help repair relations with Osiris.

That just seems like politics to me.

Though it does seem like the Empire has it's hands in a growing number of feeders.

You really have to understand the context. TSP has designated Empire as a prohibited organization, because it quite rightly considers Empire a threat to the sovereignty of every Feeder and Sinker. This isn't just politics; this is an enemy of the state asking someone in TSP to be his eyes and ears, and agreeing to an offer from Belschaft to discourage anti-Empire sentiment in TSP.

If NK were not an enemy of the state, and a known menace to Feeder and Sinker sovereignty, this might seem a little more innocent. But he is both of those things. And you're correct that Empire has its hands in a growing number of Feeders and Sinkers, which is not an accident or coincidence.

[The Stalker]

Ah gotcha, the Empire is an interesting group curious to see if this is leading up to something. Like a great unveil, sith turning the senate into the empire, suddenly TEP, Osiris, TP, TWP, and Co all come out as some evil empire lol.

[Dalimbar]

Well, that didn't take long. I did ask you a couple nights ago when Miniluv would try to do a hatchet job, but... This is almost disappointing.

Anyway, let us know what other horrible things "Empire" is up to.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Ah gotcha, the Empire is an interesting group curious to see if this is leading up to something. Like a great unveil, sith turning the senate into the empire, suddenly TEP, Osiris, TP, TWP, and Co all come out as some evil empire lol.

Well, with the exception of TEP thus far, they do all have something in common: The GCR Sovereignty Accords.

Well, that didn't take long. I did ask you a couple nights ago when Miniluv would try to do a hatchet job, but... This is almost disappointing.

Anyway, let us know what other horrible things "Empire" is up to.

Will do! Please be sure to ask NK to keep publicly posting his logs without marking them as unlisted on Pastebin, it makes my job a lot easier.

[Mallorea and Riva]

If Cormac is still Editor in Chief he should do an article about his penchant for choosing fascist imagery for his flags...


White Rose Alliance flag vs Triskelion

Cormac's flag vs the Nazi Swastika

I'm not drawing any conclusions from this, I'm just asking the tough questions.

[Silver Noble]

I'm not drawing any conclusions from this, I'm just asking the tough questions.

This right here is just bootiful.

[Escade]

Here is what I find dissapointing about this beyond the obvious bad form and shady behavior.

The constant problem I have encountered in NS is foreign influence that actually harms the natural growth and development of a region. We've had plenty of it in TSP. Imbecilic cretins are elected by foreign puppets into positions of power and then go inactive or prevent active TSPers from governance of our region. We're getting better but still have a ways to go.

I'm not really sure what the solution is here but hope there is one that isn't draconian.

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[Belschaft]

Here is what I find dissapointing about this beyond the obvious bad form and shady behavior.

The constant problem I have encountered in NS is foreign influence that actually harms the natural growth and development of a region. We've had plenty of it in TSP. Imbecilic cretins are elected by foreign puppets into positions of power and then go inactive or prevent active TSPers from governance of our region. We're getting better but still have a ways to go.

I'm not really sure what the solution is here but hope there is one that isn't draconian.

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I agree with this entirely, which is why I never vote for people if I don't think they have TSP's best interests at heart - even if that does lead to me voting for people who I both dislike and disagree with, Glen being a prime example.

[Dalimbar]

As Cormac notes in his piece, I am in a more FA position in TEP. Our FA position is that any region or individual which regards our Concordat as the legal system of government may have relations with us. This includes any and all regions who accept that. We will reciprocate.

[Escade]

I'm also interested in why this was leaked or who leaked the original logs and why.

[Dalimbar]

I speculate it is my fault, Escade. While I'll certainly allow this... journalist organization... to determine its own motives for releasing such old information, it appears to be trying to release old information in light of my approval of TEP membership into Sovereign Accords, while wishing for our membership to discuss the ramifications of such.

This is where I am disappointed in this article. You provide nothing new, Cormac. You provide nothing really that shocking. Under your watch, the watch of your predecessors including myself, and under the watch of your successor, Osiris appears to be concerned about how people perceive it, and NK appears to be acting in such a way which is similar to how we all acted as Pharaoh at one point or another. You and I know we have had similar conversations with outsiders. So, to claim that it's just him is... I honestly dunno, naive? Stupid? Ignorant?

You have done the same. What has changed now? Your own ideology.

That is it.

We have spoken as to reasons why I disagreed with your membership into TEP Magisterium. This is frankly one reason why I voted no. And for goodness sakes, you give me more reasons to continue to believe my No vote was sensible.

[Escade]

Dali, I didn't mean the leak here but the original leak. Why leak this conversation between Bel and NK in the first place? Did NK leak it? Why? Those kinds of questions that I am thinking about. This information and other has been available for a while but only came into the Assembly recently so that is why I'm assuming that Cormac waited.

I appreciate that Cormac only posted what was publicly available. I'm not really sure what anyone's motivations are but his usually seem to be centered around disseminating information.

[Dalimbar]

Obviously as NK is of Osiris and Bel is a member of your government, I can't speculate as to why such things happened. Merely, I am concerned about the implications over this article and Cormac et all dragging different governments in to suit his agenda.

I do apologize for the confusion.

EDIT: Cormac, just to confirm, did this conversation happen while you were Pharoah, and thus under your watch? Your story doesn't quite indicate as such. I believe this happened while NK was what is now called Crown Prince, but I'd like to confirm... as a good journalist should.

[Belschaft]

Obviously as NK is of Osiris and Bel is a member of your government, I can't speculate as to why such things happened. Merely, I am concerned about the implications over this article and Cormac et all dragging different governments in to suit his agenda.

I do apologize for the confusion.

EDIT: Cormac, just to confirm, did this conversation happen while you were Pharoah, and thus under your watch? Your story doesn't quite indicate as such. I believe this happened while NK was what is now called Crown Prince, but I'd like to confirm... as a good journalist should.

If I remember correctly it happened shortly after NK became Delegate and was looking to repair the damage done to TSP-Osiris relations caused by Cormac. In later conversations in the full logs - which I have provided to the CRS - NK asked me for advice on that topic, and I provided such. This is, of course, not in any way a crime in TSP, just as believing that TSP-Osiris relations should be improved isn't.

Edit: Having just checked the logs I greeted NK with "Congratulations on your new Emperor-ship" when he messaged me, so it was after he became Delegate.

[Dalimbar]

That is even worse. A sovereign Delegate wishing to explore possibilities of building bridges with another government official. For shame.

Anyway, again I state my disappointment in this article. I suggest actual investigative journalism next time.