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Nephmir
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Postby Nephmir » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:15 pm

Shadoke wrote:
Nephmir wrote:Actually I saw the sleeper long before the raid and laughed. I already knew what was going to happen.

Had Rift or I cared enough, the previous delegate would have stayed or we'd have piled in endorsements (you'll notice that the previous delegate left at the same update the embassy expired, as it was planned this way). Not to mention you haven't won yet- that's not a lot of endorsements on the new delegate, and you jumped the gun on password protecting the region, especially considering a WA Liberation would render that useless. All of this indicates that you have a false sense of security.

I am really doubting you knew. the fact that you would just let it die says much for your sense of honor.

Who logs into a sleeper every day during a merge and doesn't reply to telegrams or move, and has a relatively high number of endorsements to inherit the delegacy? I believe the intentions of that nation were quite clear.

CoF is already dead, by the will of the founder. Who am I to interfere? Honor has nothing to do with it.
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:18 pm

Nephmir wrote:
Shadoke wrote:I am really doubting you knew. the fact that you would just let it die says much for your sense of honor.

Who logs into a sleeper every day during a merge and doesn't reply to telegrams or move, and has a relatively high number of endorsements to inherit the delegacy? I believe the intentions of that nation were quite clear.

CoF is already dead, by the will of the founder. Who am I to interfere? Honor has nothing to do with it.

Haha, you're obviously bullshitting because I didn't even have any endorsements for the past week and the most I had was only one for a day or two.

Keep up the story telling, it's amusing.
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Postby Xicirus » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:19 pm

Nephmir wrote:
Shadoke wrote:I am really doubting you knew. the fact that you would just let it die says much for your sense of honor.

Who logs into a sleeper every day during a merge and doesn't reply to telegrams or move, and has a relatively high number of endorsements to inherit the delegacy? I believe the intentions of that nation were quite clear.

CoF is already dead, by the will of the founder. Who am I to interfere? Honor has nothing to do with it.

Glad to know that you don't care about it and have no reasons to interfere. I then trust you won't attempt to pass a liberation since you deliberately abandonned it (a liberation would never have been necessary had you cared and protected the region).

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Postby Shadoke » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:21 pm

Nephmir wrote:
Shadoke wrote:I am really doubting you knew. the fact that you would just let it die says much for your sense of honor.

Who logs into a sleeper every day during a merge and doesn't reply to telegrams or move, and has a relatively high number of endorsements to inherit the delegacy? I believe the intentions of that nation were quite clear.

CoF is already dead, by the will of the founder. Who am I to interfere? Honor has nothing to do with it.
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Postby NoblePhnx » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:23 pm

Shadoke wrote:I am really doubting you knew. the fact that you would just let it die says much for your sense of honor.

You don't think anyone knew that Len's puppet which was there since the inception of the region and continuing to gather considerable influence+not moving with the other notables of the region during the merger, or that one knew or would expect sleepers of any # of raider groups in the region both before and after founderless status. Pretty everyone knew this raid was coming.


The Leningrad Union wrote:Haha, you're obviously bullshitting because I didn't even have any endorsements for the past week and the most I had was only one for a day or two. Keep up the story telling, it's amusing.

It's not like you have anything against CoF that would compel you to raid it after all.
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Postby Nephmir » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:23 pm

The Leningrad Union wrote:
Nephmir wrote:Who logs into a sleeper every day during a merge and doesn't reply to telegrams or move, and has a relatively high number of endorsements to inherit the delegacy? I believe the intentions of that nation were quite clear.

CoF is already dead, by the will of the founder. Who am I to interfere? Honor has nothing to do with it.

Haha, you're obviously bullshitting because I didn't even have any endorsements for the past week and the most I had was only one for a day or two.

Keep up the story telling, it's amusing.

Ah, I see you have started acting like a Raider as well. One wrong statement and the entire response is seen as worthless crap.

I suppose I should teach you some humility. I'll add it to my schedule. How does Saturday sound?

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Postby District XIV » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:25 pm

NoblePhnx wrote:
The Leningrad Union wrote:Haha, you're obviously bullshitting because I didn't even have any endorsements for the past week and the most I had was only one for a day or two.

Keep up the story telling, it's amusing.

It's not like you have anything against CoF that would compel you to raid it after all.
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:26 pm

NoblePhnx wrote:miksi

Read the OP.
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:27 pm

Nephmir wrote:
The Leningrad Union wrote:Haha, you're obviously bullshitting because I didn't even have any endorsements for the past week and the most I had was only one for a day or two.

Keep up the story telling, it's amusing.

Ah, I see you have started acting like a Raider as well. One wrong statement and the entire response is seen as worthless crap.

I suppose I should teach you some humility. I'll add it to my schedule. How does Saturday sound?

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I'm the founder of a raiding region and I just began an occupation and you're telling me that I'm starting to act like a raider? :rofl:
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Postby NoblePhnx » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:37 pm

Shadoke wrote:
He was deleted by the MODS, not really a 'will' deal. and as len said, keep up the stories.

He was deleted by the mods and realizing the precarious nature of founderless regions in this, the heyday of raiderism, made the prudent decision to finalize a merger which had been in the works for a long time. Coupled with the fact that Rift wanted to focus on running the government and region building in TEK anyway. He could have simply founded The Coalition of Freedom and refounded CoF later if he so desired.

So it WAS by the will of the founder that CoF was effectively disbanded, we had 50+ endorsements on RoSC when Rift was deleted its not like it would be raided overnight there was plenty of time to make an informed decision on the future of CoF, his deletion merely moved up the timetable and actually sped up the process.
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:40 pm

NoblePhnx wrote:
Shadoke wrote:
He was deleted by the MODS, not really a 'will' deal. and as len said, keep up the stories.

He was deleted by the mods and realizing the precarious nature of founderless regions in this, the heyday of raiderism, made the prudent decision to finalize a merger which had been in the works for a long time. Coupled with the fact that Rift wanted to focus on running the government and region building in TEK anyway. He could have simply founded The Coalition of Freedom and refounded CoF later if he so desired.

So it WAS by the will of the founder that CoF was effectively disbanded, we had 50+ endorsements on RoSC when Rift was deleted its not like it would be raided overnight there was plenty of time to make an informed decision on the future of CoF, his deletion merely moved up the timetable and actually sped up the process.

Did you seriously just found TCOF
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Postby NoblePhnx » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:45 pm

The Leningrad Union wrote:Did you seriously just found TCOF

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Postby The Leningrad Union » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:23 pm

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Postby Rifty » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:25 pm

I've got to say i don't give two shits xD

We pulled out because we're done with there...moved to TEK. I'm helping out in TWP and hopefully going to be doing the same in Sicarius. Eitheway gold star in claiming CoF :)
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Postby Rifty » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:41 pm

We were all aware of LU's lack of loytalty....and i knew it was his account. I was pretty sure a raid would occur but as you may have noticed...we have no intentions on a refound. We pulled out our delegate. We got out our active citizens so well yea. Have fun with it :)
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:03 pm

If you expected this, you did a pretty good job covering it up :P I.e. RoSC's comments about leaving because he was fed up babysitting it, all the brouhaha about not being able to password due to lack of influence, and all the comments about it not going/going to be raided. If you didn't care at all, RoSC wouldn't have guarded it for this long ;)

Also, I call bs on the "having high endo count" too - MH had *one* until today.

If you want to say you called it, I'm not really going to respect it unless you publicly....call it :P
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:21 pm

Shadoke wrote:I am really doubting you knew. the fact that you would just let it die says much for your sense of honor.

Oh god thats just what we need. A raider who thinks with honour :blink:
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Postby Festavo2 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:44 pm

Not one mention of me in that whole post about the history of the raid and its roots. Dammit! :P

I saw on the RMB CoF had been raided and its like "Who?" And I was surprised to see Leningrad Union, an old friend, doing it. Well, if he would have approached me about 2 weeks ago, I would have helped him. Now? I got too damn much to do. Sorry, man. :)

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Postby Rifty » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:37 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:If you expected this, you did a pretty good job covering it up :P I.e. RoSC's comments about leaving because he was fed up babysitting it, all the brouhaha about not being able to password due to lack of influence, and all the comments about it not going/going to be raided. If you didn't care at all, RoSC wouldn't have guarded it for this long ;)

Also, I call bs on the "having high endo count" too - MH had *one* until today.

If you want to say you called it, I'm not really going to respect it unless you publicly....call it :P

No need to call ir - We pulled out. Pretty obvious we had gottenw hat we wanted xD
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Postby Vom Leben » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:57 pm

Big region that annoyed lots of people go founderless, and Madrigal is deluding themselves into thinking that "it's eventually going to be raided" isn't the absolute first thing that went through the heads of the decision makers in TEK. Or went through our minds at all.

And people actually waste hours of their time trying to troll us. :unsure:
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:01 pm

Vom Leben wrote:Big region that annoyed lots of people go founderless, and Madrigal is deluding themselves into thinking that "it's eventually going to be raided" isn't the absolute first thing that went through the heads of the decision makers in TEK. Or went through our minds at all.

And people actually waste hours of their time trying to troll us. :unsure:

This was an independent raider unity operation, not Madrigal.

It was pretty obvious that you guys knew that you were going to get raided and it was posted on the RMB by none other than you for Christ's sake. We're not stupid.

Quit the trollnaming.
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Postby Vom Leben » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:29 pm

The Leningrad Union wrote:
Vom Leben wrote:Big region that annoyed lots of people go founderless, and Madrigal is deluding themselves into thinking that "it's eventually going to be raided" isn't the absolute first thing that went through the heads of the decision makers in TEK. Or went through our minds at all.

And people actually waste hours of their time trying to troll us. :unsure:

This was an independent raider unity operation, not Madrigal.

It was pretty obvious that you guys knew that you were going to get raided and it was posted on the RMB by none other than you for Christ's sake. We're not stupid.

Quit the trollnaming.

Madrigal's involved, I'm naming you. What, are you ashamed?

I'm not troll naming. I'm asking why people like to troll us when they'd probably have more success trolling you guys. If I was troll naming, I'd be doing it in the moderation forum.
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Postby The Leningrad Union » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:33 pm

Vom Leben wrote:
The Leningrad Union wrote:This was an independent raider unity operation, not Madrigal.

It was pretty obvious that you guys knew that you were going to get raided and it was posted on the RMB by none other than you for Christ's sake. We're not stupid.

Quit the trollnaming.

Madrigal's involved, I'm naming you. What, are you ashamed?

I'm not troll naming. I'm asking why people like to troll us when they'd probably have more success trolling you guys. If I was troll naming, I'd be doing it in the moderation forum.

I never said Madrigal was not involved. But you made it seem as if Madrigal raided the region, not a diverse group of nations. More people involved were non-Madrigal than Madrigal.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:40 pm

The Leningrad Union wrote:
Vom Leben wrote:Madrigal's involved, I'm naming you. What, are you ashamed?

I'm not troll naming. I'm asking why people like to troll us when they'd probably have more success trolling you guys. If I was troll naming, I'd be doing it in the moderation forum.

I never said Madrigal was not involved. But you made it seem as if Madrigal raided the region, not a diverse group of nations. More people involved were non-Madrigal than Madrigal.

Fair enough, support is split between several regions. But you might want to educate your Minister of Defence, because he really did just post this gem about whether or not we knew a raid was coming-

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Nephmir wrote:Actually I saw the sleeper long before the raid and laughed. I already knew what was going to happen.

Had Rift or I cared enough, the previous delegate would have stayed or we'd have piled in endorsements (you'll notice that the previous delegate left at the same update the embassy expired, as it was planned this way). Not to mention you haven't won yet- that's not a lot of endorsements on the new delegate, and you jumped the gun on password protecting the region, especially considering a WA Liberation would render that useless. All of this indicates that you have a false sense of security.

I am really doubting you knew. the fact that you would just let it die says much for your sense of honor.

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Postby New Nassrau » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:01 pm

Blood Wine wrote:I don't care about CoF,but....


How the hell did you manage to get a generalite to raid? i mean recruiting him is already impressive but also actually getting him into the region on time? jesus christ that takes skill

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