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Postby Ava Ire » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:03 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Ava Ire wrote:Look like you guys can remove on particular region from your list *hint hint, mine*


They still hit it at the time of the post, because someone's region didn't refound yet *hint hint, yours*

Yeah, I guess that's fair. I mean I just fixed my region and restored it, but it hasn't updated yet.
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Postby Vandoosa » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:58 pm

We are gunna hit 70 soon.. Or else Chloe is fired!

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Postby Marelius » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:10 pm

Vandoosa wrote:We are gunna hit 70 soon.. Or else Chloe is fired!

Yikes! I'm still waiting for you to get on a minor!
that does not sound right at all...
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Postby The Risen Jaguar Warriors » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:14 pm

Marelius wrote:
Vandoosa wrote:We are gunna hit 70 soon.. Or else Chloe is fired!

Yikes! I'm still waiting for you to get on a minor!
that does not sound right at all...

Argh! It's a Mary!

Save the children! Save the lambs! :eek:
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Postby Marelius » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:16 pm

The Risen Jaguar Warriors wrote:
Marelius wrote:Yikes! I'm still waiting for you to get on a minor!
that does not sound right at all...

Argh! It's a Mary!

Save the children! Save the lambs! :eek:

Lambs? I'm not that weird. I mean, at least give them some time to grow. :p
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:38 am

The Risen Jaguar Warriors wrote:
Marelius wrote:Yikes! I'm still waiting for you to get on a minor!
that does not sound right at all...

Argh! It's a Mary!

Save the children! Save the lambs! :eek:


I don't need saving :blush:
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Postby Corvus Corax » Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:47 am

...
..."tag raiding" is misconception. What happens when 20 updaters "tag" same 30 regions during several consequtive updates.
[3:52:44 PM] Cora: we have 30 Invasions.
[3:53:40 PM] Cora: Every "tag" is potential start of occupation, even in cases where founders are alive (which only means that occupation will be probably short)
[3:54:20 PM] Cora: Question is Numerical here.
[3:54:45 PM] Cora: It is possible defend several regions by small updater forces too.
[3:55:55 PM] XXXX: used to happen, too
[3:56:01 PM] Cora: That's why I have my sermons often about blissfulness of "tag raiding".
[3:56:01 PM] XXXX: defenders could actually keep up with tags :P
[3:57:08 PM] Cora: If we have enough active forces online we can combine in theory traditional invasions and "tag raids".
[3:57:55 PM] Cora: that's why I struggle against conception of 'Tag raid' and false dichotomy of "occupations" and "tags".
[3:58:10 PM] Cora: By game mechanics, such dichotomy doesn't exist
[3:59:09 PM] Cora: ...being myself model example of active "tag raider" i.e. Updater.
[4:00:00 PM] Cora: I have pretty good insight over the issue. 2 pages of My War Diary: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=cora ... /id=314382
[4:00:12 PM] Cora: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=cora ... /id=314383
[4:00:43 PM] XXXX: shit that's extensive
[4:01:05 PM] XXXX: probably more raids than what I've done in X years and I wouldn't have a hope in hell of listing even half of mine.
[4:02:10 PM | Edited 4:03:15 PM] Cora: Last update was my 358th+ active update since 6th October 2013.
[4:02:23 PM] Cora: And there are few dozen more undocumented ones.
[4:02:40 PM] Cora: Nobody has ever been that active updater.
[4:02:52 PM] Cora: I have no intentions to end either.
[4:06:50 PM] Cora: "Mobile Warfare". It is what I do.
[4:07:49 PM] Cora: Hundreds of times we are reinforced ongoing raider occupations by giving endorsement to occupation WADs.
[4:08:28 PM] Cora: with good number of dedicated and active updaters it would be possible keep tens of occupations/invasions going on.
[4:08:38 PM] Cora: Simultaneously
[4:09:07 PM] Cora: And there... Just there lies the absurdity of the concept of "tag raid".
[4:10:22 PM] Cora: It is Name of the current level of evolution of raiding, not something that is forever carved to the stone of R/D.
[4:14:30 PM] Cora: Every veteran Black Rider and Black Hawk knows that. All of them doesn't admit it, but everyone knows it.
[4:15:09 PM] XXXX: the world must always turn.
[4:16:40 PM] Cora: Example: Raiders have 15 sleeper switchers in 15 regions (founderless by default).
[4:17:41 PM] Cora: WAD sleeper stay in the region. Mobile update forces switch "normally". WAD sleepers switch as well in same pace as other updaters.
[4:18:27 PM] Cora: WAD sleepers get their endos and they stay in their regions, meanwhile others move out (influence efficiency).
[4:18:47 PM] Cora: Delegates are delegates even not being WA-members.
[4:18:53 PM] Cora: You see what I mean.
[4:19:29 PM] XXXX: tldr
[4:19:31 PM] XXXX: influence *****ery.
[4:20:59 PM] Cora: If Switcher enforcers use same puppets for endorsements to same WAD puppets, their influence levels increase despite that they doesn't have to be in those regions after they update.
[4:21:53 PM] Cora: There can be also Switcher/pilers, whom keep their puppets in a region and every update they endo same WAD.
[4:22:08 PM] Cora: In those 15 regions by the order of update.
[4:22:24 PM] Cora: This is essentially same thing then "Mobile defence".
[4:22:49 PM] Cora: Only difference here is that who does it and for what aims/cause.
[4:24:30 PM | Edited 4:24:49 PM] Cora: If raiders "reinforce" an occupation/invasion, they effectively does just that "mobile Defense" for blocking possible defender liberation attempts by increasing temporary endorsement count of raider/invader WAD.
[4:28:12 PM] Cora: *Cora Cries about "tag raiding"*
[4:28:15 PM] Cora: :P
[4:28:38 PM] XXXX: fair nuff
[4:28:43 PM] XXXX: I need to go sleep because it's like Xam
[4:31:28 PM] Cora: Good Night. Nice to talk with you. I play this game for betterments in My English skills. It requires long monologues... Often. :)
[4:33:23 PM] XXXX: that's a familiar enough reason. Your skills would be better than a very large number of native English speakers. :P
[4:33:27 PM] XXXX: goodnight!
[4:33:34 PM] Cora: gn

The real Identity of XXXX is not relevant thing here. Few typos corrected.

[5:11:59 PM] XXXX1: If we did have a regular group of 15 updaters, we could build influence in 60 regions constantly. It's a bit demanding, but it's a great idea.
[5:12:45 PM] xxxx1: It doesn't answer xxxx2's point that defenders are not competetive enough.
[5:15:07 PM | Edited 5:16:59 PM] Cora: Raiders are not responsible for Defenders' inactivity, lack of reason, lack of morale, lack of endurance, lack of anything important. Because they have to have reason for their defenses, they mesmerize their own forces by irrelevant moralistic jargon.
[5:15:43 PM] Cora: Activity is concentrated to the Forum-side of the Game. Not the actual Multiverse out there.
[5:16:04 PM] Cora: It is possible program LEGAL tools for defenses.
[5:16:25 PM] Cora: Raiders are not obliged to do that.
[5:16:50 PM] XXXX2: [5:15 PM] Cora: <<< It is possible program LEGAL tools for defenses.
[5:16:54 PM] XXXX2: My tool is legal :P
[5:17:06 PM] Cora: Is it?
[5:17:17 PM] XXXX2r: without a doubt
[5:17:20 PM] Cora: If so. You are living proof it is possible.
[5:17:57 PM] XXXX2: it doesn't really matter, I could distribute the tool through other channels if I really wanted to
[5:18:03 PM] XXXX2: I don't really want to :P
[5:18:17 PM] XXXX2: besides it needs a lot of improving
[5:19:35 PM] XXXX2: right now it is fast, but it is not reliable
[5:20:13 PM] XXXX2: I can make it slightly faster while also making it much more reliable
[5:20:22 PM] XXXX2: so, await that :P
[5:20:28 PM] Cora: I will
[5:21:43 PM] Cora: I will also be the "par" in certain sense. I do not use any short cuts, tools or tricks in my switching. I have relatively old and slow computer hardware and connection.
[5:22:10 PM] XXXX2: so you say, but again, [Sun Tzu] itself is a tool
[5:22:29 PM] XXXX2: at the end of the day it is a technological arms race now
[5:22:50 PM] XXXX2: [Sun Tzu] it still far and above anything we have seen, but that could change soon ;)
[5:23:34 PM | Edited 5:23:59 PM] Cora: I want see a scenario when there actually exist massive army of raider updaters, capable to do coordinated, disciplined maneuvers, crashing as much as possible.
[5:24:35 PM] Cora: Wardancing on the taglands.
[5:25:18 PM] Cora: What ever are technological prospects we must keep things that way that we do not lose the skill.
[5:25:44 PM] Cora: That would destroy the game altogether.
[5:26:23 PM | Edited 5:26:43 PM] Cora: Human must always be in command and control.
[5:29:26 PM] Cora: Remembering always that Raiding in it's core is the art of electing delegates and keeping them in power.
[5:30:22 PM] Cora: And like with every arts there are different approaches to the same object

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Postby Vandoosa » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:01 am

Marelius wrote:
Vandoosa wrote:We are gunna hit 70 soon.. Or else Chloe is fired!

Yikes! I'm still waiting for you to get on a minor!
that does not sound right at all...



I am getting really sleeepy.. you should make majors more often!

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Postby Baghdad Bob » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:13 am

CODEX INCURSUS
TBR Raiding Statistics

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Postby Applebania » Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:43 am


I bow before your tagging skills.
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Postby Corvus Corax » Sat Jan 31, 2015 12:05 pm

Applebania wrote:

I bow before your tagging skills.


Excellent. Then your are realized the natural order of the Multiverse. Did you?

That realization is not visible in any contemporary Defender manifests? Defenders by their role in this big circus need mindless cannonfodder to keep their system running. Instead, raiders need conscious individual soldiers whom realize that the whole composed by their collective individual activity is several magnitudes greater then their personal actions separately, and these individuals learn to adapt their personal efforts and needs for the benefits of the whole.
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Re: The Black Riders - The Elite Cavalry of NationStates

Postby Khronion » Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:38 pm

People are still making fake warzones? Tsk tsk.

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Marelius
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Postby Marelius » Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:02 pm

Khronion wrote:People are still making fake warzones? Tsk tsk.

But they don't have your secret formula!
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Postby Right-Wing Companies of America » Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:20 am

Is there a point to raiding a region with an active founder, fucking up the appearance of the region, and then leaving?

It's the most sophomoric shit.

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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:49 am

Right-Wing Companies of America wrote:Is there a point to raiding a region with an active founder, fucking up the appearance of the region, and then leaving?


Yes. It's called doing an activity with people you enjoy the company of.
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Postby Mordor-ob bot-tuk » Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:13 am

@Right-Wing Companies of America:

Do you know what Mr. CEO? The Black Riders is the Company and we ride together in a Paradise. Our task is to consume eagerly executive founders like you.

But Contrary to your Manufacture, Our Company is multinational and multiregional Military-Industrial-Complex. Our main production and a profit is the Joy of Collaboration with friends who share the same hobby (and whom all know how to abort Embassy withdrawals in a regional administration).

Thank You for your Contribution and Collaboration. Huzzah! :kiss:
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Postby Marelius » Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:19 am

Right-Wing Companies of America wrote:Is there a point to raiding a region with an active founder, fucking up the appearance of the region, and then leaving?

It's the most sophomoric shit.

Hey look! Another ignorant native with another common phrase which shows their lack of understanding of basic raiding methods!
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Postby Baghdad Bob » Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:28 am

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Huzzah! Huzzah! The natives of Atheist Empire lack of faith in Raideron proved to be their downfall! Once again an absolutely overpowering raid. 24 Updaters helped in the capture with 70 endorsements on the delegate within the first 12 hours. The raid has been executed by The Black Riders with the support of our allies The Black Hawks, the United Imperial Armed Forces, The Association of Imperialism and ceirien! Now only a miracle can save the natives from the wrath of Raideron and The Black Riders Huzzah!

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Postby RiderSyl » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:00 am

Big props to Wulfenite, and a hearty HUZZAH! for the incredible turnout from TBR's ranks. I say this a lot, but, really, that was one hell of a raid party. :clap:
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Postby The Hairy Men of God » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:41 am

I really need to get more involved with the Raiding, the Butthurt generated is just far too great.
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Postby Ambroscus Koth » Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:16 pm

The Hairy Men of God wrote:I really need to get more involved with the Raiding, the Butthurt generated is just far too great.

It's pretty grand ;)
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Postby Benjamin Henrikson » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:57 pm

You know, this old rusty rider was there too! :P
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Postby NoblePhnx » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:13 am

Only one more to 100 endos in Atheist Empire coooommeeee onnnnnnn!!!!!!!!
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:44 am

HUZZAH! Raider support is best support. :)

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Postby The Risen Jaguar Warriors » Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:48 am

Marelius wrote:
The Risen Jaguar Warriors wrote:Argh! It's a Mary!

Save the children! Save the lambs! :eek:

Lambs? I'm not that weird. I mean, at least give them some time to grow. :p

Reminds me of a poem...

Mary had a little lamb
Whose fleece was as black as soot
And onto Mary's pretty dress
Its sooty foot it put

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