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Alpinistan
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100% tax

Postby Alpinistan » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:37 am

now i see more and more nations with 100% tax, its like there is now downside with it, beside the funny thing "the state takes all" i think to high taxes should get obvious downsides. at the moment its to easy to make everything else look pretty and just ignoring tax (or even want to raise them at 100). while i really adore the exaggeration with the issues.. that tax aspect seems fairly of the place, for example emigration and so losing people or something.
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Postby Birnadia » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:58 am

I agree with you there, Alpinistan.
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Postby A mean old man » Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:33 pm

Well, I don't think it's particularly good for your economy to hike taxes once you're at 100%. I try to lower mine, but my monster of a military always winds up jacking it all the way back up again.
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Postby Natelanda » Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:35 pm

100% tax rates are indicitive, at least for leftist countries like my own, of a centrally-planned socialist economy. Although its not as quick to grow, larger tax rates allow easier access to domestic industries for citizens. Capitalist logic is hte only one that assumes high taxes are bad
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Postby The Weegies » Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:38 pm

A slight fudge would be to consider that the WA is slightly confused as to what consists of "state" income and what consists of "private" income; after all, many WA descriptions read just with that confusion "It's difficult to tell where the government stops and society begins" &c. My nation has a very weak central government, but all manner of non-private and "collective" property and governance mechanisms; I think it's reasonable to just suggest that the WA has difficulty classifying what counts as "tax" and what doesn't.
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Postby Mephras » Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:41 pm

Of course, you are welcome to RP your nation as you wish, but the tax system in the game seems pretty simple, and taxes can go both high above 100% and below 0%. This does allow frightening economies and 100%, but again, it is up to you to define what "frightening" means.
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Postby The Weegies » Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:42 pm

Plus, you could argue that there's a difference between nominal and effective tax rates; that yes, certainly the average tax rate of a citizen is 100%, if you look at it at a "what are you liable to pay?" way, but perhaps there are all number of black-market or indeed legal tax credits or loopholes which prevent this from actually being the case.
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Down side to high taxes

Postby Cynthia McKinney » Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:47 pm

The higher your tax rate is the less your nation's money is worth. So its best to keep the tax rate as low as possible without sacrificing public services like healthcare, education, public transportation, environmental protection, and social welfare. Don't waste money on the police, military, religion, and unnecessary industries.

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Postby Alpinistan » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:15 pm

wasting money on military? nah thats not possible :p
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Postby Tanaara » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:51 pm

I have 0% income tax, a Frightening Economy and 51% of my budget goes to the military, 31% to 'law & order'... I think the 100% tax rate is something that is actually bad for ones economy. And 1 auric= 2.08 usd - Non WA member

while for A mean old man with 100% tax, and a Very Strong Economy,his 1 colostomy bag only = .71 usd. WA member

seriously - this is part of the reason I won't belong to the WA - they mess too much with ones nation.
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Postby The Weegies » Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:34 pm

A weak currency does not necessarily mean a weak nation, or a weak economy.
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Postby Kingsley Bedford » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:05 am

Is there anyway to lower it once u get to 100%?

Because if I choose tax cut options in issues the tax rate still dosn't go down? Is there anyway at all that I can lower it?
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Postby The Tofu Islands » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:27 am

Kingsley Bedford wrote:Is there anyway to lower it once u get to 100%?

Because if I choose tax cut options in issues the tax rate still dosn't go down? Is there anyway at all that I can lower it?

The game’s internal representation of tax rates doesn’t have a cut off of 100%, so if you keep taking the “increase taxes” options, it’ll just keep increasing that representation. To make them go down, you’ll just need to consistently answer the issues with “lower taxes” options.

(Disclaimer: I haven’t actually seen the code -- this is mostly based on things players have worked out.)
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