Sicarius News - Silly Cypher or Serious Symbol?

[Space Dandy]

Anarchy isn't anywhere near the longest occupation in NS history.

The longest active raider occupation executed by a raider region

Wasn't this disproved already?

[Drop Your Pants]

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Bring your WA. Somewhere like Unity or Launching Point. Keep an eye out on United Nations of Chester or Nugut. I'll be there, sometime. Where? Where the winds take me.

THat's called being a defender. DYP may be a good person to TG about that.

Don't bring me into this, i don't want any angry natives yelling at me

[The Blaatschapen]

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Bring your WA. Somewhere like Unity or Launching Point. Keep an eye out on United Nations of Chester or Nugut. I'll be there, sometime. Where? Where the winds take me.

THat's called being a defender. DYP may be a good person to TG about that.

Don't bring me into this, i don't want any angry natives yelling at me

*yells at you*

[Wetwork XIII]

I all I can say is, if Max Barry thinks this is ok, then I hope he gets a paper cut onevery single fucking copyofJennifer Governmenthe picks up.

you tell 'em chief.

[Nephmir]

-snip-

No, I'm still 100% certain I'm correct. You can quit flame baiting me in telegram and then acting innocent in public anytime you wish, I'll be waiting.

After what you did I'm beginning to see what the RPers are talking about; this should not count as a victory. It's pathetic.

and his buddy took his sweet little time at it

The fault was entirely my own; I'm sorry if I care a little more about RL when something comes up then refounding a region at exactly the right moment.

Not to sound like a Defender, but I was defending, wasn't I?

Leave the rest of TEK out of this; they did their job better than I did mine. It's my fault, not theirs.

[Nierr]

Anarchy isn't anywhere near the longest occupation in NS history.

The longest active raider occupation executed by a raider region

Sure.

But those qualifiers essentially make it meaningless. I mean, I'm the world's greatest footballer if I put enough qualifiers on that statement.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

It's almost scary, to see mods posting in a GP debate without redtext nowadays It's been like, three whole hours now and not one report thread in Moderation!

Oh, I'm not at all surprised that you are baffled at how classy people from Tofuline are. Must be so sad growing up without positive model roles or purposefully avoiding them, huh?

The thing about the internet is that you tend to make assumptions, like the one that I'm not a straight-A student, student government representative and sports team captain surrounded by a military family, coaches, and a few amazing teachers, who is generally regarded as responsible and polite. Just because I sacrifice sleep a lot of the year to cram a browser game in there and blow off some steam doesn't mean I'm a bad person.

I'm sorry it took so long to respond. I had to get up a few hours ago, two and a half after signing off last night, to go lead an optional summer practice.

Edit: Yeah, I realize this is the internet again and for all you know I could be lying through my teeth. I wouldn't be the first, or the millionth, to make exaggerated claims. The best I can do is swear upon my honor and all I hold dear that that is the straight truth. Believe it or not, I don't care, but you have no right to insult me personally.

Anarchy isn't anywhere near the longest occupation in NS history.

Of all the things to go after here.......
In my defense, I put quotes around it for a reason You can argue the legitimacy of that in TBR's thread. It was just an example here.

[The Assassin ShadowX]

Leave the rest of TEK out of this; they did their job better than I did mine. It's my fault, not theirs.

Oh I'm sure you are as certain as ever, but I'm not sure in the light of recent event that you will continue parading it around, otherwise it would look like a double slap in 1 update. Though you might still, which would be interesting.

That being said, as you have demonstrated, you have no skill at refounding sadly. However, I somewhat admire that you admit that your region's utter failure yesterday was caused by you and you alone, as you decided to rush the refound, instead of postponing it to another day when you saw that "some RL things" came up. Your refounding buddy (whomever he is) and the rest of your region takes no responsibility.

You happy now?

Furthermore, you can "count" whatever you want as whatever you wish. We don't really care, and honestly, nor should you care about how we count our own bussiness.

Alright, NOW LET'S GET BACK TO TOPIC.

Those still wishing to discuss The Black Riders, please be directed to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=259749

Those still wishing to discuss TEK, please be directed to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=297733

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Shadow, lets not fall to personal insults of out own. Cool, Calm, Collected, aye?

[Other Thafoo]

*shakes head furiously*

[The Scientific States]

Congrats.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

It's still a dick move to pull on people you know aren't familiar with all the tricks and traps of GP, then wave it in their faces and play the 'you can have it back if you humiliate yourselves for our further amusement' card. Just calling it as I see it. Not gonna toe the party line on this sort of thing, sorry.

It takes no skill, and nothing past pissing others off purposefully is gained by these sorts of actions. Ranks right up there with the silly stockpiling of regions with a placeholder puppet and pretending they've been 'won', or actually mean something in the grand scheme of things.

To all the RP/NSG/Other Folks out there who don't want to be bothered with all this song and dance: Use Your Tools. Have an active founder, disallow the delegate access, use a password if you need, and remove yourselves from the hassle.

And don't get yourself deleted, because as you can see here, it throws a wrench into the whole works. And there are always people looking to take advantage of those situations, because hey, Gameplay. It's a gas.

[Sicarius News Bot]

And don't get yourself deleted, because as you can see here, it throws a wrench into the whole works. And there are always people looking to take advantage of those situations, because hey, Gameplay. It's a gas.

Rightly so. You might not like it, defendenders might not like it, natives might not like it and neither do many more. However, so long as we do things by the rules which you and the rest of the moderators enforce, we at Sicarius cannot be bothered every time someone gets upset at us because we invaded this region or refounded that. It is part of the game and people must deal with it.

Now in regards to us giving back (some of) the region to the natives, a number of us at Sicarius did consider that option seriously (So no, it was not just manipulating them and trying to humiliate them) we honestly did consider removing the password and letting the natives come into the region and use the RMB as they wish (and maybe making the WFE.... a bit more friendly to them)

However, this was soon out of the question. We would have completely understood if they came and expressed their anger here in a civil manner, unfortunately they decided to resort to profanity and uncalled for personal attacks that do not relate to the situations at hand:

It's almost scary, to see mods posting in a GP debate without redtext nowadays It's been like, three whole hours now and not one report thread in Moderation!

Oh, I'm not at all surprised that you are baffled at how classy people from Tofuline are. Must be so sad growing up without positive model roles or purposefully avoiding them, huh?

:|

Add on top of that they committed a clear violation of NS rules (which your team did warn them for it) by puppet flooding and spamming our region.

So obviously at this point we are not unlocking the region.

Anyway, Tofuline is now ours and Tofulinearity is theirs, and if we went back in time 24 hours ago, we would NOT do it differently.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

And it is this sort of self-important 'lol, dwi' attitude that is at the heart of the problem here. Not everyone agrees. Not everyone sees it as a legitimate part of 'the game'. After all, it was begun entirely due to players taking advantage of a system that was never designed to do what it now does - entire areas of code, rules, allowances have been made to accommodate this portion of the site. It started as trolling for lulz, and it has become legitimized over time due to player interest. This being the internet, it shouldn't be surprising that something born out of pissing other people off would become popular.

Hiding behind the fact that 'it is allowed' while pushing the boundaries left, right, and center in the process, deliberately going after players and regions you know don't want to be involved, don't want to take part, and will definitely be upset - regardless of your silly little back and forth with so-called 'defenders', remains a bit sad in my eyes. I'm as free as any player to speak my mind on it. Simply because there are some rules I disagree with doesn't mean I support them wholeheartedly. My opinions have never been a mystery. I still see the entire endeavor on the same level as shitting all over something then rubbing the owner's nose in it while pointing out that public defecation is allowed, so you can't be touched on account.

It impresses me not at all. Not that you're out to impress, simply to accept the back-slaps of your fellow raiders on a 'job well done', and rack up your 'victories' for whatever celebrations you happen to hold.

As I've said dozens of times before - we have tools, those of us who do not want to take part should use them, and leave you folks to continue carrying out your back and forth amusements without us. As I've done since the beginning.

The only way to currently beat a raider is to take away his toys - your regions. And I encourage everyone who does not want to get dragged into Gameplay to do so.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

First off, I'd just like to make it clear that whoever was behind the news bot this time, it wasn't me. Probably Val by the wording, but not me.

Anyways. DLN makes some very valid points. I did not like this teasing with it, trying to make them beg. Maybe a joke, but not a nice one. I do have a limit. Moving on, she posts some very good advice. In the next post, we have an even further example that the statement "The mods support raiders!" is untrue. I enjoy it. It's my one chance in my life to *not* do the right thing, to be the bad guy, etc. Being the Villain can be fun. Others disagree. This is stated in the very FAQ's of the game, in an unbiased way.

Mods are people too. Most, or at least most who have spoken on it, do not support our activities. They have, more than just here, even spoken out against it. I really wish that whole argument would just stop coming up, because it's just not true.

But I digress.

Long story short, I do not entirely agree with playing with the natives in that way. There's a line even for me, and that crossed it a toe.

[Coraxion]

Taking toys of raiders out of them hands is not only way (= making WAD non-executive). Founders and Executive WADs can stalk online during updates and kick all suspicious incoming puppets out of the region.

Always crying, not a single attempts to use those same tools available for all, against Raiders.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Taking toys of raiders out of them hands is not only way (= making WAD non-executive). Founders and Executive WADs can stalk online during updates and kick all suspicious incoming puppets out of the region.

Always crying, not a single attempts to use those same tools available for all, against Raiders.

This was unnecessary. I've seen enough 'crying' from your side of things over the years, in claiming that the tools implemented would 'kill the R/D game' and 'NationStates would die on account'. Going on 10+ years now. Still seeing the same old. Let's play nicely, children. Since we all have to share the same sandbox.

[R the Zombie]

And it is this sort of self-important 'lol, dwi' attitude that is at the heart of the problem here. Not everyone agrees. Not everyone sees it as a legitimate part of 'the game'. After all, it was begun entirely due to players taking advantage of a system that was never designed to do what it now does - entire areas of code, rules, allowances have been made to accommodate this portion of the site. It started as trolling for lulz, and it has become legitimized over time due to player interest. This being the internet, it shouldn't be surprising that something born out of pissing other people off would become popular.

Hiding behind the fact that 'it is allowed' while pushing the boundaries left, right, and center in the process, deliberately going after players and regions you know don't want to be involved, don't want to take part, and will definitely be upset - regardless of your silly little back and forth with so-called 'defenders', remains a bit sad in my eyes. I'm as free as any player to speak my mind on it. Simply because there are some rules I disagree with doesn't mean I support them wholeheartedly. My opinions have never been a mystery. I still see the entire endeavor on the same level as shitting all over something then rubbing the owner's nose in it while pointing out that public defecation is allowed, so you can't be touched on account.

It impresses me not at all. Not that you're out to impress, simply to accept the back-slaps of your fellow raiders on a 'job well done', and rack up your 'victories' for whatever celebrations you happen to hold.

As I've said dozens of times before - we have tools, those of us who do not want to take part should use them, and leave you folks to continue carrying out your back and forth amusements without us. As I've done since the beginning.

The only way to currently beat a raider is to take away his toys - your regions. And I encourage everyone who does not want to get dragged into Gameplay to do so.

But that's still gameplay. Whether or not it sounds like it, making sure to keep things "protected from the raiders" is still gameplay. Sometimes, regions just want to be left alone. The raiders do not care about the will of the natives, only their victories. Just because it is part of the game doesn't mean it is fair.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

“Who says life is fair, where is that written?”
― William Goldman, The Princess Bride (only one of the best movies ever)

[The North Polish Union]

Why offer it back to the natives, even in exchange for something?

It is better to hold it forever, against all the cries of the natives, that they should always be reminded of the failure.

[R the Zombie]

Why offer it back to the natives, even in exchange for something?

It is better to hold it forever, against all the cries of the natives, that they should always be reminded of the failure.

The natives are pretty much over it, really. We're moving forward. Do as you will with the old shell of a region. Another worthless trophy in an ever-growing collection is what it boils down to. Keep it, love it, do as you will with it. The community lives on elsewhere. The thing that made the region special has moved on. Enjoy your meaningless trophy.

[Coffee Cakes]

TOFULINE REFOUNDED! NATIVES FAIL MISERABLY.

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Not so long ago, in fact it was only last month, the 190 nations of Tofuline lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when The Fire Nation Sicarius attacked. Only the Founder Thafoo, he who posses the ultimate power in the region, could stop them, but when the his region needed him most, he vanished.

Seizing this valuable opportunity, the Dominus Sicarii of Sicarius started scouting the region and planning their attack.

With the loss of their founder, the citizens of Tofuline were panicking; fearing for their security, they planned to refound their region... but it was already too late.


{THE INFILTRATION}

The Sapientia spotted a newly constructed walls around the target he was staking out. He also spotted many 'Wanted:' posters with his name on it, preventing him from strolling into the region. So Sap put on the only disguise he had on, a mustache and a funny light-up nose. Surprisingly nobody found out who he was as he infiltrated as the nation Attack On Titans, and for weeks he idled there, entering bars to pick up the latest gossip, and getting private shows at the local brothel to learn about the natives. All in the name of research of course.

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The Sapientia hiding within the "Walls" of Tofuline

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As he learned multitudes of information, he was able to pass it along to the rest of the Sicarii. Once he gathered enough information The Sapientia exited through the front door, smirking in anticipation.


{THE ATTACK}

July 20th, 2014: It has been a month since the fall of Tofuline's founder, and today was the day the native were going to retake their home. Unfortunately for them, The Assassin ShadowX was eyeing his target. As the oblivious natives were busy emptying their region and archiving their old region's tens upon tens of thousands of RMB posts, they were utterly blind to see the predator stalking them.

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The Assassin ShadowX waiting for the perfect moment to attack.

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The hour came, and the naive natives thought they were ready. Alas, they could not match the power of Sicarius. While the natives were clueless to the precise time at which their region "updates" (and thus cease to exist and make a refound possible) The Dominus Sicarii gathered intel and found that the region will update and CTE at exactly 12:01:54.5 PM EST. As the moment came, The Assassin ShadowX lunged at his prey and refounded the region.

At 12:01:55.0, merely half a second later, it was done. Tofuline was reborn, and held fiercely in the grasp of Sicarius.

The Assassins victory dance was done as Space Jam played in the background.
A glimpse into the past of Tofuline

Hail The Sapientia The Infiltrator!
Hail The Assassin ShadowX The Attacker!

All Hail Sicarius!

I'm typically pro-raiding, but sincerest congratulations on a "victory" that's as hollow as an old log. Zero natives in the region is truly an epic coup.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Glad to hear that, Zombie. Have fun in Tofulinearity. /Notsarcasm

CC, fyi every region has zero inhabitants at refound, otherwise it would not cease to exist. It had somewhere between 180 and 190, I believe, about a month ago. Instead of seizing delegacy with our sleeper and spending our own month depopulating it, using our WA's and leaving plenty of time for opposition, we merely let them clear it out on their own.

[Dumb Ideologies]

An extra milimetre doesn't stop it being a tiny tiny penis.

[The North Polish Union]

Why offer it back to the natives, even in exchange for something?

It is better to hold it forever, against all the cries of the natives, that they should always be reminded of the failure.

The natives are pretty much over it, really. We're moving forward. Do as you will with the old shell of a region. Another worthless trophy in an ever-growing collection is what it boils down to. Keep it, love it, do as you will with it. The community lives on elsewhere. The thing that made the region special has moved on. Enjoy your meaningless trophy.

Keep telling yourself that.

I'm typically pro-raiding, but sincerest congratulations on a "victory" that's as hollow as an old log. Zero natives in the region is truly an epic coup.

How are you supposed to refound a region with natives in it? You can't refound until the region updates with a population of 0.