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Gameplay Alignment: GCRs (May 29)

Postby Unibot III » Thu May 29, 2014 7:57 pm

This graph shows a composite Gameplay Alignment score for the executives in GCRs. The dot for each region is up to date, while the trail shows the region's trend from Jan 23 2014 to May 29 2014. Former studies provide further data.

During last analysis, a leftward shift was observed for TRR, TSP and TEP. This time around this was counteracted was a predicted swinging of the pendulum - TRR, TSP and TEP have all undergone their own shifts to the right. TRR's shift is the smallest and is almost a negligible difference, but certainly, TEP's shift shows a return to the center (after two years as regionalist-defenderist). Other GCRs mostly shifted right - converging towards cosmopolitian raiderism. Since UIAF and Europeia both sit in these "vile vortices", it's possible that diplomatic involvement has drawn Balder, TNP and Osiris towards them.

The big story here, in my opinion, is Lazarus's sharp drop in regionalism, while scaling towards defenderism. I'm not entire sure the human interest story behind this phenomenon yet, but it is certainly something worth talking about.

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TRR: -12.625 | -4.4375
TEP: 0.583 | 6.83
TSP: -1.17 | -0.5
TNP: 6.33 | -0.083
Balder: 8.95 | 4
Lazarus: -10.4375 | 2.0625
Osiris: -0.74375 | 3.03125
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Postby Har veyzz » Thu May 29, 2014 8:08 pm

Why did TRR move a little to the right?

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Postby Unibot III » Thu May 29, 2014 8:11 pm

Har veyzz wrote:Why did TRR move a little to the right?


Simplest answer: the old cabinet had a lot of hard-core defenderists (I.e., led by Fratt, followed by Unibot, Wop, Guy). The new cabinet may be lead by a leader who is slightly more "defender leaning", but the cabinet's replacements, LA and Feux are less defenderist, which accounts for the slight right shift.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu May 29, 2014 8:17 pm

The inevitable march towards the dominance of raiding continues in the GCRs.
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Postby Unibot III » Thu May 29, 2014 8:18 pm

<+Afforess> Unibot: cool
<+Afforess> Unibot: seems like the center is being hollowed out
<@Unibot> Center has been hollowing out for a long time now

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Postby South Pacific Belschaft » Thu May 29, 2014 8:20 pm

Ignoring of course that the vast majority of GCR politicians Uni is labeling as raider leaning or raiders are actually Independents who reject the R/D duopoly entirely.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu May 29, 2014 8:21 pm

Unibot III wrote:<+Afforess> Unibot: cool
<+Afforess> Unibot: seems like the center is being hollowed out
<@Unibot> Center has been hollowing out for a long time now

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Can you include the op pic in this.
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Postby PrussianEmpire » Thu May 29, 2014 8:42 pm

TEP is #1! Hail The Confederated Eastern Pacifica! May the Fox, Old Man and Puffin lead us to victory!
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Postby Todd McCloud » Thu May 29, 2014 8:43 pm

South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Ignoring of course that the vast majority of GCR politicians Uni is labeling as raider leaning or raiders are actually Independents who reject the R/D duopoly entirely.

How can one be independent or apathetic when they are immersed in gameplay? I've wondered this for a while now, but I posit that enough exposure in gameplay will give someone a lean one way or another. This "lean" is indicative of the experiences and contemporaries the individual has, IMO.
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Postby Unibot III » Thu May 29, 2014 8:45 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Unibot III wrote:<+Afforess> Unibot: cool
<+Afforess> Unibot: seems like the center is being hollowed out
<@Unibot> Center has been hollowing out for a long time now


If I get some time to do it I will, it's just an old image.
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Postby South Pacific Belschaft » Thu May 29, 2014 9:18 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:
South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Ignoring of course that the vast majority of GCR politicians Uni is labeling as raider leaning or raiders are actually Independents who reject the R/D duopoly entirely.

How can one be independent or apathetic when they are immersed in gameplay? I've wondered this for a while now, but I posit that enough exposure in gameplay will give someone a lean one way or another. This "lean" is indicative of the experiences and contemporaries the individual has, IMO.

I didn't use the word gameplay, nor did I use the word apathetic. The idea that Independence constitutes apathy is retrograde nonsense. Independence constitutes a rejection of the R/D duopoly - an infantile approach to military affairs that is little more than digital cops and robbers - and the belief that foreign and security policy should be determined according to regional interest.

You cannot lean towards a concept that you reject. An Independent may prefer offensive or deffensive military operations for a number of reasons, but that does not mean they "lean" towards defending or raiding. Defending and Raiding are apolitical positions in a game irrelevant to our regional interests - whether TBH or UDL controls founderless UCR X, Y and Z does not effect TSP in any way. From my perspective raiders and defenders are effectively identical, except that one side is playing at cops and the others robbers.

R/D is not gameplay. It is but a part of it - a small, extremely pointless part, and not one of interest to me or my region.
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Postby Venico » Thu May 29, 2014 9:34 pm

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Postby Jeffersonborg » Thu May 29, 2014 9:55 pm

The test places you as R or D based on assumptions that you feel strongly for/against certain statements in the quiz.

Therefore you *are* R or D based on the definition of the quiz. I suppose it has already done (can't be bothered to shift though the drama), but the only to show it's "wrong' is to explain how you can agree with statements x y and z in the quiz but not the R or D it concludes you are.

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Postby The Grim Reaper » Thu May 29, 2014 11:16 pm

Jeffersonborg wrote:The test places you as R or D based on assumptions that you feel strongly for/against certain statements in the quiz.

Therefore you *are* R or D based on the definition of the quiz. I suppose it has already done (can't be bothered to shift though the drama), but the only to show it's "wrong' is to explain how you can agree with statements x y and z in the quiz but not the R or D it concludes you are.


The main problem is that changing the quiz makes the old results entirely useless for future comparisons.

The only other quiz that could solve the problem is COE's (Asta's?) quiz, because it's the only substitute I know of that has existed for a while, but it doesn't solve all the problems, and it's not been widely distributed, or as well recorded.
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Postby Neragua » Thu May 29, 2014 11:21 pm

I get the R/D alignment but regionalist/cosmopolitan? What's the difference there?
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Postby Zaolat » Fri May 30, 2014 12:09 am

Neragua wrote:I get the R/D alignment but regionalist/cosmopolitan? What's the difference there?

The former tends to stick strictly to it's own region or at least a very few. Loyalty to those regions are stronger, since their time is not as spread out. The latter gets involved in multiple places, loyalty can be strong for a few of those regions, but it's very difficult to be entirely loyal without conflicts of interests.
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Postby Neragua » Fri May 30, 2014 12:56 am

Zaolat wrote:
Neragua wrote:I get the R/D alignment but regionalist/cosmopolitan? What's the difference there?

The former tends to stick strictly to it's own region or at least a very few. Loyalty to those regions are stronger, since their time is not as spread out. The latter gets involved in multiple places, loyalty can be strong for a few of those regions, but it's very difficult to be entirely loyal without conflicts of interests.

I see. Makes sense. Thanks for that. 8)
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Postby Unibot III » Fri May 30, 2014 4:23 am

Zaolat wrote:
Neragua wrote:I get the R/D alignment but regionalist/cosmopolitan? What's the difference there?

The former tends to stick strictly to it's own region or at least a very few. Loyalty to those regions are stronger, since their time is not as spread out. The latter gets involved in multiple places, loyalty can be strong for a few of those regions, but it's very difficult to be entirely loyal without conflicts of interests.


This is kind of a symptom of it, but not the real gist of it. There can be regionalist region-whores and loyal cosmopolitans.

The easiest way to distinguish between regionalism and cosmopolitanism is that the regionalist wants to centralize power around the "loyal few" of a region, while cosmopolitianism wants to decentralize power around the broader circle of residents. Exclusivity v. Inclusivity.

You can think of regionalism as "nationalism" for regions. It's about patriotism and encouraging people to stay loyal to the ideas of a region.
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Postby LRI Recruiter » Fri May 30, 2014 4:51 am

I'm not sure that I'd characterize regionalism/cosmopolitanism in those terms per se.

Exclusivity and regionalism may be bedfellows, but I don't believe the concept of regionalism begins with being an "exclusive" club per se. I think it more relates to the disposition of the individual in the region. Do they have a singular base of operation (the region in this case) or are they influenced by/influencing multiple regions.

To me the regionalist would like a region where people are fully committed to that particular region and not entangled elsewhere. A byproduct of that may be that they "exclude" others who are committed elsewhere, but the concept of regionalism, in my opinion, is not reactionary in the sense that the purpose is not to "keep out" those wacko cosmopolitans but it is to foster an environment where people's primary and mostly only commitment is to the region.

Cosmopolitans by and large don't care about where one comes from but I would also argue that many cosmopolitans have strong opinions about other cosmopolitans bringing their extra-regional entanglements into internal politics. That seems hypocritical on the surface, but I believe the struggle between the cosmos and regionals boils down to this - cosmopolitans believe that people can be active/loyal participants in multiple regions successfully whereas regionalists do not believe that this is possible and almost always leads to a person having to choose between one region or another.

So I'm not sure if it's Inclusive vs Exclusive so much as people answering the question on what is the profile of the person who can actively participate in regional politics and add value. Regionals don't believe people with multiple extra-regional entanglements can do this while the cosmos disagree. However, both groups do have a sense of desiring "what's best for the region", for the most part, and cosmos are not altruistic inclusive people, in my opinion, nor are regionalists motivated by creating an exclusive club just to keep others out.

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Postby Punk Daddy » Fri May 30, 2014 4:52 am

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Postby Goddess Relief Office » Fri May 30, 2014 4:53 am

It would be interesting to see the degree of movement GCRs took over the years. For example, over a 3 year period, how many X and Y steps TNP, TEP, NPO, etc. had moved over all study periods.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Fri May 30, 2014 7:33 am

Who cares about the GCRs anyways :p

Also, I think Punk Daddy's defining of the whole regionalist/cosmopolitan divide is more accurate. Then again I've been saying that Unibot has had regionalists all wrong for over a year now and he still hasn't changed his mind.
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Postby Venico » Fri May 30, 2014 8:26 am

What Punk said. It's nice to see the general trend heading to the right part of R/D and that Osi has a bit more regionalism to it again. :)
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Postby Coraxion » Fri May 30, 2014 8:43 am

Unibot MetaPhysics. Doesn't mean anything. Good Propaganda, teaching people think that way.

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Postby The Sapientia » Fri May 30, 2014 9:03 am

All I see is numbers increasing and decreasing.
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