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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:22 pm

Shizensky wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:<snip>
- Ever-Wandering Souls

You're working for the wrong people. I guess if this keeps you from doing any real damage...


I think that's a compliment :p See point five again ;) I'm not going to abandon this cause, but in the aspect of covering my bases, in the event I ever need new employment, my TG box will indeed be open!
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby SkyDip » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:27 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Shizensky wrote:You're working for the wrong people. I guess if this keeps you from doing any real damage...


I think that's a compliment :p See point five again ;) I'm not going to abandon this cause, but in the aspect of covering my bases, in the event I ever need new employment, my TG box will indeed be open!

If you have to sell yourself out for "employment" should this project predictable end up ala shit on fan, you probably aren't doing well enough in your current position.
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Postby Nephmir » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:52 pm

If we have no chance of succeeding, and if my region is "working with the wrong people", then why is everyone trying so hard to bring it down?

Edit: you ignore everyone else that announces such things. If I'm no better, then why are you not ignoring me?
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Postby SkyDip » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:58 pm

Nephmir wrote:If we have no chance of succeeding, and if my region is "working with the wrong people", then why is everyone trying so hard to bring it down?

Edit: you ignore everyone else that announces such things. If I'm no better, then why are you not ignoring me?

You obviously have no idea that Cerian and I feed on the dreams of young upstarts.

I, for one, am still in this thread to see you eat your cake at this point and attempt to show you why you will fail at changing the game mechanics.
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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FMxSoul
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Postby FMxSoul » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:00 pm

Nephmir wrote:I know, I've been saying "next month" like all of January! :lol:

We are capable of Defending our own regions. We just did last update.

They know of the plan, and they see sense, that is why they joined me. But I will leave it to them to respond to that, not me.

Also, it's no surprise how the other regions like this failed, what with the entire world beating them down. I can take it, but please don't pin this on my region.


Well Soul...You know the plan then, or you don't know it? Are you sure everyone is telling the truth here? Maybe there's nothing more to the plan than what's actually been told publicly after all. So do you see sense? All the contradictions are killing me!

I can hardly find your region a serious one if you all find sense and seriously intend to carry this out:

I. This disease affecting all the regions has a known origin, as previously stated. It also has a known carrier. It likes to cling onto black horses; namely, those of The Black Riders. They will be the first domino. They will most certaintly not be the first or last region to fall.
II. Feeders and Sinkers are completely filled with the disease; they must be united and then cleansed. The Rejected Realms will collect them all, and then they will be cleansed.
III. The UDL and 10000 Islands must be eliminated. They produce the disease rapidly. The FRA will be spared, but cleansed.
IV. Finally, the clean up and repairs. Any remaining founderless regions below a population of 50 will be destroyed permanently, all remaining Raiders will be neutralized, and the Defenders will be cleansed and set free to do their jobs, and help the remaining regions and fight back any Raiders that try to emerge. The Eternal Knights will then withdraw into the home region, to begin cleansing the World Assembly.
Want another one?


What is the desease by the way? Your ''mankind always innovate'' doesn't work..unless you know exactly how you intend to create a breakthrough in Nationstates realm of possibilities..nobody will beleive you, unless you can show what you got ..can you? Of course not.

Want another contradiction?

2-WHy is that necessary? Sure, it's cool. MAybe one of us will do it in our spare time. BUt it's not necessary, and one of our core ideals is efficiency.


Your great leader said he wanted a map. Didn't you say you blindly trusted him with his grand plans (no matter how unbelievable they were)? Now if you say that it's unnecessary you go directly against his will, (Insubordination!) Thinking logically now? When did that start?

Last note, your expectations are absolutely unrealistic (I'm speaking with months of tagging experience under my belt btw). Prove me wrong!

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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:02 pm

It seems we've met an impasse, sirrah. YOu think we cannot do much, while we believe otherwise and will continue to try no matter what words you speak.

ANother hypothetical: What if some of us were more concerned about some of those goals than others, believed in them more? It's not infeasible to consider some may be using this as a means to an end, seeing it as the best option to achieve one of the goals.

He said he wanted a map. Well, I want to live in a mansion and never work for money. Doesn't mean I need that. If my boss says that, I'm not ordered to get that.

Hopefully, I will.

Only Time will tell for certain.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

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Postby Nephmir » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:05 pm

I played with the idea of having a map. I didn't say I wanted one.
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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:16 pm

Nephmir wrote:If we have no chance of succeeding, and if my region is "working with the wrong people", then why is everyone trying so hard to bring it down?

Edit: you ignore everyone else that announces such things. If I'm no better, then why are you not ignoring me?

I don't ignore everyone that announces these things, and in many ways, SkyDip is correct. I do enjoy crushing the dreams of people like you. But I also am trying to convince you that your quixotic crusade is wrong so that you can devote your efforts to something constructive, rather than pointless.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby Nephmir » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:36 pm

Before I can do good, and build something meaningful, I must destroy everything meaningless.
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Shizensky
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Postby Shizensky » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:58 pm

Nephmir is the comic book villain NS needs, not the comic book villain we deserve.
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Postby Venico » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:04 pm

A villain can come up with more than 2 endos >.> And a hero can come up with more than 2 endos as well <.<
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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:09 pm

Efficiency. Haven't needed more, so why use valuable WA assets? Especially nowhere near an update currently.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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How Do I Telegram API?

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Postby Shizensky » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:09 pm

Venico wrote:A villain can come up with more than 2 endos >.> And a hero can come up with more than 2 endos as well <.<

Hey now, he only had 1 when we jumped, and even then the second came long enough after the fact that the fault rests entirely on my hesitation between the trigger and the command.
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So that you think before you break 'em."
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:22 pm

Nephmir wrote:Before I can do good, and build something meaningful, I must destroy everything meaningless.

:palm:
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:47 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
It's only impossible until it's not. It was once thought impossible for man to fly, to travel across the world in a day, to visit the ocean floor, to talk to someone thousands of miles away, to do many of the things we don't even think twice about.


You're comparing the breakthroughs of flight, international travel, deep-sea diving, and long-range communications... to your region.

:palm:

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:To sit upon your throne and say it is impossible for you to fall is to invite someone to try, and to not be prepared for them to do so. Few, if any, things are truly impossible, given time and determination.


Is it possible to break a concrete block using a crayon? How about breaking a brick wall using a ball of silly putty? Or digging a hole into rock using a toothpick? The thing you're intending to target won't budge because what you're using against it doesn't have a chance at denting it. Time and determination won't make "The Eternal Knights" any less ineffective.

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:No, we are not going to go away, to give up. If we are a constant annoyance, good. That shows what we've been trying to prove- we're serious, and we have at least some impact. If the "occasion stupid annoyance" is defenders as they are, and the "consistent annoyance" is us, by your own classification we're doing more against you than defenders are. If that doesn't make us serious, what does?


You've already taken being insane as a compliment, now you've taken being an annoyance as a compliment. :clap:

By the way, the occasional stupid annoyances I referred to are the countless people that have tried what you're trying. To "destroy" TBR, specifically. I was not referring to the defenders.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:12 pm

Nephmir wrote:Before I can do good, and build something meaningful, I must destroy everything meaningless.

Are you building your region on fortune cookies? :P
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:20 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Nephmir wrote:Before I can do good, and build something meaningful, I must destroy everything meaningless.

Are you building your region on fortune cookies? :P


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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:29 pm

Well, the Viet Cong did a pretty good job fighting the US Army with sharpened sticks ;)
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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Postby The North Polish Union » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:43 pm

Nephmir wrote:Before I can do good, and build something meaningful, I must destroy everything meaningless.

But everything is meaningless... :o
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Postby Nephmir » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:08 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Nephmir wrote:Before I can do good, and build something meaningful, I must destroy everything meaningless.

Are you building your region on fortune cookies? :P

Fortune cookies are great! They combine my two favorite things (philosophy and cookies)! :lol:
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:13 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Well, the Viet Cong did a pretty good job fighting the US Army with sharpened sticks ;)

Yes, but in the Vietnam war, people could actually die.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby The Unknown Cartel » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:30 pm

My Lord. This is just flooded with Unnecessary Spam & Flaming. Quit accusing our region of small things, Even though were a small region -- and to say a Anger to the black riders, In no way in hell do we deserve to be flamed for these silly little acts that we have put on show so far. In all truth, We may be smaller than the Black Riders (I mean MUCH, MUCH smaller) Well. Think of it this way, There was this region called The Confederacy of Allied States. They got from a declining 28 nations, To a gigantic almost 200 in a MONTH. They are accounted for the fastest, Largest Democratic, And most active RMB Region out of the top 100. And that was all in a MONTH! There almost in the top 50s! Literally just 1 Place away! And Birthing a Military isn't easy. There military is in the EXACT SAME STATE AS OURS! They have even less, Even though they've directed all there attention towards it. So... In all seriousness, Enough with the Bickering. We must go on without this! Especially those who are CAUSING the Bickering. Your making your region look worse... Not ours. Or at least most of the time. So, Try to have some Regional Respect and lets stop this fighting, And actually get to some issues!

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Postby Nephmir » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:43 pm

:palm:
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Postby Suchasmallthing » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:46 pm

The Unknown Cartel wrote:My Lord. This is just flooded with Unnecessary Spam & Flaming. Quit accusing our region of small things, Even though were a small region -- and to say a Anger to the black riders, In no way in hell do we deserve to be flamed for these silly little acts that we have put on show so far. In all truth, We may be smaller than the Black Riders (I mean MUCH, MUCH smaller) Well. Think of it this way, There was this region called The Confederacy of Allied States. They got from a declining 28 nations, To a gigantic almost 200 in a MONTH. They are accounted for the fastest, Largest Democratic, And most active RMB Region out of the top 100. And that was all in a MONTH! There almost in the top 50s! Literally just 1 Place away! And Birthing a Military isn't easy. There military is in the EXACT SAME STATE AS OURS! They have even less, Even though they've directed all there attention towards it. So... In all seriousness, Enough with the Bickering. We must go on without this! Especially those who are CAUSING the Bickering. Your making your region look worse... Not ours. Or at least most of the time. So, Try to have some Regional Respect and lets stop this fighting, And actually get to some issues!


Everyone would be nicer with you if you didn't actually declared war on the whole forum...if you see what I mean? Can we do some more advertising for The Confederacy of Allied States now?

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The Unknown Cartel
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Postby The Unknown Cartel » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:48 pm

Suchasmallthing wrote:
The Unknown Cartel wrote:My Lord. This is just flooded with Unnecessary Spam & Flaming. Quit accusing our region of small things, Even though were a small region -- and to say a Anger to the black riders, In no way in hell do we deserve to be flamed for these silly little acts that we have put on show so far. In all truth, We may be smaller than the Black Riders (I mean MUCH, MUCH smaller) Well. Think of it this way, There was this region called The Confederacy of Allied States. They got from a declining 28 nations, To a gigantic almost 200 in a MONTH. They are accounted for the fastest, Largest Democratic, And most active RMB Region out of the top 100. And that was all in a MONTH! There almost in the top 50s! Literally just 1 Place away! And Birthing a Military isn't easy. There military is in the EXACT SAME STATE AS OURS! They have even less, Even though they've directed all there attention towards it. So... In all seriousness, Enough with the Bickering. We must go on without this! Especially those who are CAUSING the Bickering. Your making your region look worse... Not ours. Or at least most of the time. So, Try to have some Regional Respect and lets stop this fighting, And actually get to some issues!


Everyone would be nicer with you if you didn't actually declared war on the whole forum...if you see what I mean? Can we do some more advertising for The Confederacy of Allied States now?


It was more of an Example, But oh well. :l

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