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Anti- Black Rider Conference

Postby United States of Natan II » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:40 pm

This is a conference for the leaders of regional governments (exiled governments welcomed) willing to assist in the fight against the black riders. They are a menace to us all, and must be taken down.

The conference shall take place in secret here: http://www.natanregiongovernment.freefo ... -t219.html
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:48 pm

This is totally how you host a secret conference.

Ah, if only all defenders had you as their chief of intelligence/counter-espionage.
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Postby Kringalia » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:01 pm

Didn't you try something similar a while ago (viewtopic.php?f=12&t=267227)?
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Postby United States of Natan II » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:18 pm

That was for the black hawks, and for nations to attend, not representatives of regional governments.

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:41 pm

And the results of the anti-black hawks conference?
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The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Postby Christopher Bishop » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:56 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:And the results of the anti-black hawks conference?


Do you see any Black Hawks around?

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Postby Venico » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:58 pm

Osiris would like to attend. As the Pharaoh, I shall be our representative.
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Postby Evil Wolf » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:04 pm

Lone Wolves United would also like to join in. I'm the Second Founder, so I feel that only I can take on this monumental responsibility of representing LWU at what will surely be the most important event in NS history.
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Postby United States of Natan II » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:35 pm

Thank you. You are both welcome to join the conference.

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:38 pm

Yep, this will go far...

*gets out popcorn*


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Postby United States of Natan II » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:45 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:Yep, this will go far.

Well it will if nations actually decide to support it rather than criticize it for lacking support.

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:46 pm

United States of Natan II wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:Yep, this will go far.

Well it will if nations actually decide to support it rather than criticize it for lacking support.


Or actually justify why "raiding" is such a problem?


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Postby United States of Natan II » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:55 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
United States of Natan II wrote:Well it will if nations actually decide to support it rather than criticize it for lacking support.


Or actually justify why "raiding" is such a problem?

I would imagine that that is something that goes without explaination, but ok: raiding unjustly takes over the regions of others who have done nothing wrong, and who do not wish to be under the rule of some foreign empire.

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:57 pm

United States of Natan II wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Or actually justify why "raiding" is such a problem?

I would imagine that that is something that goes without explaination, but ok: raiding unjustly takes over the regions of others who have done nothing wrong, and who do not wish to be under the rule of some foreign empire.


Then find a new region?

Or don't care about regions?


It's not French,it's not Spanish,it's Inyurstan
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Postby United States of Natan II » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:59 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
United States of Natan II wrote:I would imagine that that is something that goes without explaination, but ok: raiding unjustly takes over the regions of others who have done nothing wrong, and who do not wish to be under the rule of some foreign empire.


Then find a new region?

Or don't care about regions?

Thats your opinion.

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:00 pm

United States of Natan II wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Then find a new region?

Or don't care about regions?

Thats your opinion.


Then to avoid being hypocritical are you going to host a conference to stand against imperialism in the RP sector?


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Postby United States of Natan II » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:07 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
United States of Natan II wrote:Thats your opinion.


Then to avoid being hypocritical are you going to host a conference to stand against imperialism in the RP sector?

Well first I figured I would take out the largest raiding empire before moving to RP.

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Postby The North Polish Union » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:13 pm

United States of Natan II wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Or actually justify why "raiding" is such a problem?

I would imagine that that is something that goes without explaination, but ok: raiding unjustly takes over the regions of others who have done nothing wrong, and who do not wish to be under the rule of some foreign empire.

Defenderism, which I like to call "the scourge of NationStates" also seeks to create an empire. An empire of regions that are too weak to defend themselves and therefore must submit themselves, in an endless cycle of peonage, to defender orgs. Then, defenders put on an air of morality in the GP forum and pretend to be helping the natives.

Their practices are completely abhorrent and should be stopped.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:19 pm

You'd have better luck if you didn't accept the applications of people like the commanders of UIAF and LWU, millitaries that have and will continue to work with TBR in the past.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

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Postby United States of Natan II » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:23 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:You'd have better luck if you didn't accept the applications of people like the commanders of UIAF and LWU, millitaries that have and will continue to work with TBR in the past.

I am looking into their histories and embassies. Gotta love NS++!

As for defenderism, this group will be disbanded once the black riders are abolished, and will not take advantage of weaker regions.

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Postby Evil Wolf » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:27 pm

LWU has no history with TBR. We hate them. Promise.
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:27 pm

The Darwin Allied Republics shall join

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Postby The North Polish Union » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:29 pm

United States of Natan II wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:You'd have better luck if you didn't accept the applications of people like the commanders of UIAF and LWU, millitaries that have and will continue to work with TBR in the past.

I am looking into their histories and embassies. Gotta love NS++!

As for defenderism, this group will be disbanded once the black riders are abolished, and will not take advantage of weaker regions.

Taking advantage of weaker communities is the very definition of defenderism. You cannot be a defender group without practicing such atrocities.

Nice try.
Minskiev wrote:You are GP's dross.
Petrovsegratsk wrote:NPU, I know your clearly a Polish nationalist, but wtf is up with your obssession with resurrecting the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
The yoshin empire wrote:Grouping russians with slavs is like grouping germans with french , the two are so culturally different.

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Postby The Tripartite Republics of Rome » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:31 pm

The North Polish Union wrote:
United States of Natan II wrote:I would imagine that that is something that goes without explaination, but ok: raiding unjustly takes over the regions of others who have done nothing wrong, and who do not wish to be under the rule of some foreign empire.

Defenderism, which I like to call "the scourge of NationStates" also seeks to create an empire. An empire of regions that are too weak to defend themselves and therefore must submit themselves, in an endless cycle of peonage, to defender orgs. Then, defenders put on an air of morality in the GP forum and pretend to be helping the natives.

Their practices are completely abhorrent and should be stopped.


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Postby The Tripartite Republics of Rome » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:33 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:LWU has no history with TBR. We hate them. Promise.


*imagines horns holding up halo* yea........right.......

Anyways, Altearth will join
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