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Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini
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Postby Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:51 am

Actually, 10000 Islands was the first place and only place I've asked. I telegrammed Grub but got no response.

Maybe you'd have already been liberated by now, if you had asked an organization that actually does something.
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Postby Hygelac » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:50 pm

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:
Actually, 10000 Islands was the first place and only place I've asked. I telegrammed Grub but got no response.

Maybe you'd have already been liberated by now, if you had asked an organization that actually does something.

I've asked the regions you suggested and have received no reply from one, and a rejection from another. Thanks for your help though :)

EDIT: There seem to be defenders attempting to help but they come staggered and very conspicuously, and are quickly ejected and banned.
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:08 pm

Hygelac wrote:
Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:Maybe you'd have already been liberated by now, if you had asked an organization that actually does something.

I've asked the regions you suggested and have received no reply from one, and a rejection from another. Thanks for your help though :)

I should have told you to contact Wintreath. I wasn't aware at the time that the other defender regions I suggested were busy trying to be assimilated into the Borg FRA Rangers.

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Postby Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:17 pm

Hygelac wrote:
Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:Maybe you'd have already been liberated by now, if you had asked an organization that actually does something.

I've asked the regions you suggested and have received no reply from one, and a rejection from another. Thanks for your help though :)

EDIT: There seem to be defenders attempting to help but they come staggered and very conspicuously, and are quickly ejected and banned.


You're very welcome. I'm sorry that my suggestions were of no use, but I wish you luck.
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Postby New Bradfordsburg » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:21 pm

It's too bad that your region has been invaded Hygelac....it was vulnerable as soon as it became founderless, however.

But I will say, it doesn't say much about the state of defending if this can go on for days without a solid response. :unsure:

I would offer help from Dux Milan, but we are new, and we are still weak.
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Postby Hygelac » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:13 pm

I was just banned and ejected. They claim I am an invader from NBE. I was in NBE for maybe a few hours, because I got a recruitment telegram from them. The lies they are saying about me are untrue. :(

EDIT: Being a Francophile, I must say the situation feels a lot like the Reign of Terror, which would be pretty cool... if I hadn't just been guillotined. ;)
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Postby New Bradfordsburg » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:46 pm

So then come to Dux Milan....not much to invade with us as we're still non-executive with the delegacy.
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Postby Hygelac » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:04 pm

New Bradfordsburg wrote:So then come to Dux Milan....not much to invade with us as we're still non-executive with the delegacy.


Your help in this matter is very much appreciated. Your shameless and incessant recruitment is not.

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Postby Evil Wolf » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:22 pm

Hmm, looks like they are banning natives in an attempt to refound the region. Not a fan.

Have you attempted to rally your fellow natives? I wouldn't wait on Defender help, they're not coming. Better try and save yourself.
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Postby Hygelac » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:36 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:Hmm, looks like they are banning natives in an attempt to refound the region. Not a fan.

Have you attempted to rally your fellow natives? I wouldn't wait on Defender help, they're not coming. Better try and save yourself.


I am actually in the process of doing so now. A fellow native is also doing the same, within the region.

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Postby Hobbesistan » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:13 pm

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Postby Hygelac » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:31 pm

Hobbesistan wrote:Justice Hast been Served.


Thank you everyone! :)

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Postby Mahaj » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:35 pm

Told you that I, the UDL, and our friends from many other organizations would come through!
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:37 pm

You're welcome, from Lazarus.
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Postby Wintermoot » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:42 pm

And Wintreath. Glad defending could come through for you. :)
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Postby The Saturnian Republic » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:40 pm

I'm curious, which region actually turned you down? :blink:
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Postby Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:22 am

The Saturnian Republic wrote:I'm curious, which region actually turned you down? :blink:


Well, here are the suggestions I made:

ForeStarnya, Admiral of the Red Fleet, would probably be a good person to contact. It wouldn't hurt to talk to Misley, as well.
I wish you all luck!


One turned him down, and one never responded. I wonder which is which.
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Postby Hygelac » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:03 am

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:
The Saturnian Republic wrote:I'm curious, which region actually turned you down? :blink:


Well, here are the suggestions I made:

ForeStarnya, Admiral of the Red Fleet, would probably be a good person to contact. It wouldn't hurt to talk to Misley, as well.
I wish you all luck!


One turned him down, and one never responded. I wonder which is which.


ForeStarnya refused. I deleted his telegram, but his response was to the effect of "get your own natives to join the WA and do it." Misley never responded.

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Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini
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Postby Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:12 am

Hygelac wrote:
Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:
Well, here are the suggestions I made:



One turned him down, and one never responded. I wonder which is which.


ForeStarnya refused. I deleted his telegram, but his response was to the effect of "get your own natives to join the WA and do it." Misley never responded.


Ah. It's understandable that Misley wouldn't, since he's trying to handle his own regional crisis.

I find it rude, however, that ForeStarnya, the leader of The Red Fleet, would not only turn you down, but also have the nerve to suggest something so futile. I suppose he isn't really dedicated to his supposed cause, eh? Quite distasteful.

Anyways, good luck with your newly freed region. :)
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Postby Hygelac » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:08 am

Is there any chance I could find out which organizations ended up coming to our aid?

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Postby Anumia » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:16 am

Congratulations on getting your region back. :)

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Postby Mahaj » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:39 am

Hygelac wrote:Is there any chance I could find out which organizations ended up coming to our aid?

I will get you a list shortly.
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Postby ForeStarnya » Sat Dec 07, 2013 1:22 pm

Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini wrote:
Hygelac wrote:
ForeStarnya refused. I deleted his telegram, but his response was to the effect of "get your own natives to join the WA and do it." Misley never responded.


Ah. It's understandable that Misley wouldn't, since he's trying to handle his own regional crisis.

I find it rude, however, that ForeStarnya, the leader of The Red Fleet, would not only turn you down, but also have the nerve to suggest something so futile. I suppose he isn't really dedicated to his supposed cause, eh? Quite distasteful.

Anyways, good luck with your newly freed region. :)


Where do you think TRF units are currently deployed?
Honestly the (lack of) intelligence of some people never ceases to amaze.
All TRF operations other than securing TI are on hold.
Which is good news for all the fascists, not so good for all who chose to ignore our constant and repeated warnings over the last three years to assist in this struggle.

So when they kick your regions door in you can thank the apolitical defenders who naively maintained a neutral stance on the fascists to a greater or lesser degree, the allegedly unbiased moderators who deleted La Pasionaria and all of his puppets making multiple regions he was founder of to become vulnerable, not just TI, or you could lay the blame at the door of the apathetic and the arrogant who rather than participate would have you believe that opposing the fascist is somebody else's problem.

TRF do not claim to be the first anti-fascist organisation, nor the only one active in NS, but their is a distinct possibility that TI will be it's last operation.

We won't be around to fight your battles for you much longer, so you will have to find a new scapegoat to target

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Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini
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Postby Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini » Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:39 pm

All TRF operations other than securing TI are on hold.

Ah, I see. I did not know, and I apologize for it.

So when they kick your regions door in

Which one? I reside in plenty of regions, none of which are weak.

or you could lay the blame at the door of the apathetic and the arrogant who rather than participate would have you believe that opposing the fascist is somebody else's problem.

1) My WA is almost always in use, in a military capacity
2) It's not my problem. I'm neither Fascist nor Communist, I don't particularly care for either, and I don't plan on joining in on your wars. All I did was make a suggestion to someone in need.

We won't be around to fight your battles for you much longer, so you will have to find a new scapegoat to target

Don't worry. You were never fighting my battles, in the first place.
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Postby ForeStarnya » Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:33 pm

Contrary to your own egoism TRF only regards Raiders as a sideshow.

If you care to read the post you might just grasp that we see the fascists as our primary foe.
Raiders/defenders are participants in an apolitical struggle which could be at best described as amoral, at worst immoral. It is your chosen sphere, and is incongruous with our objectives

You act dependant on which side of the raider/defender divide you fall, we act according to which side of the left/right political divide we fall. Both definitions are abstracts and equally valid in terms of Gameplay, sometimes objectives converge, sometimes they diverge.

Comparing the two however is like comparing Apples and Oranges

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