by NS Confidential » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:54 pm
by NS Confidential » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:55 pm
by Mallorea and Riva » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:26 pm
by NS Confidential » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:39 pm
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Nowhere in your interview did Biyah say that Ravania was found guilty of treason.
Biyah wrote:"TNP convicted him of treason, but no meaningful punishment was laid on him due to his absence."
by Mallorea and Riva » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:40 pm
NS Confidential wrote:Mallorea and Riva wrote:Nowhere in your interview did Biyah say that Ravania was found guilty of treason.
As far as NS Confidential can see, he did accuse Ravania of having been convicted of Treason (which he was not).
See here:Biyah wrote:"TNP convicted him of treason, but no meaningful punishment was laid on him due to his absence."
http://s13.zetaboards.com/Osiris_NS/topic/7112218/1/
by Feux » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:03 pm
Solorni wrote:In all honesty, given Ravania's reputation as a spy... not sure how he could ever be trusted
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by McMasterdonia » Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:03 am
NS Confidential wrote:
“I have no confidence in his ability to maintain duality in the face of his defender ideals,” says Biyah. Given Osiris has recently attacked regions without provocation, there are growing fears that members may betray Osiris to help these regions.
Contrary to Biyah’s assertions however, Ravania was not found guilty of Treason in The North Pacific – he was found guilty of Espionage and found innocent of Treason in The North Pacific. Likewise, Biyah’s assertions that Ravania “did not stay within The North Pacific to argue his point-of-view” are largely untrue: Ravania did stay to argue his case in court and also stayed to assist the region in its transition from Blue Wolf to Jamie Anumia.
"Everyone in this game that actually knows me, knows that I can't stand injustice.
A strange sentence, you might think, from someone that has just leaked classified information.... [...snip]"
And further:
"But as I can't stand injustice I can no longer be a citizen in this region, lead by an acting delegate that supports raids. I hereby resign from the RA and citizenship. (please remask). I am and will always be a defender.
Ravania"
by Cerian Quilor » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:10 am
by NS Confidential » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:10 am
by Gabrial Syme » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:43 am
NS Confidential wrote:Ten months later: The North Pacific v. Grosseschnauzer continues
MAGICALITY CITY, THE NORTH PACIFIC -- In December 2012, Grosseschnauzer, a long-time member of The North Pacific was charged with “fraud” for accusing Kingsborough of aiding a coup.
Grosseschnauzer told the Assembly in his controversial statement: “I blieve [sic] you are aiding a coup d'etat by your actions, and I will continue to seek to have respect given to speech or continue to challenge you illegitimate behavior untl [sic] you do.”
Fraud in The North Pacific is defined as “an intentional deception, by falsehood or omission, made for some benefit or to damage another individual”.
The curious element to this case is that the prosecution seem to be using “fraud” as “slander” – even though slander can be unintentional, fraud cannot be. How one can prove that anyone’s stated beliefs are intentionally deceptive is beyond the understanding of this journalist.
Nonetheless…
The court case has been stalled for eleven months largely due to Grosseschnauzer’s health and administrative changes. Punk Daddy has reopened the case in the hopes of reaching a conclusion. We’ll keep you up to date with any new developments.
- Oct. 15 2013, NS Confidential.
by Todd McCloud » Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:20 pm
by General von Kluck » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:57 pm
Todd McCloud wrote:You remind me of a youthful Scruff McGruff for some reason.
by Venico » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:43 am
by NS Confidential » Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:46 am
Venico wrote:The main reason Biyah would like to keep Ravania from the Deshret (legislative body) is because he believes that based on previous actions of Ravania, he can't be trusted inside of the government. Now whether or not this is reasonable is for you to decide but seriously it's not because of R/D and that should stay out of the argument. Especially when it's a non-raider asking for this. There is also the side issue of whether or not Ravania qualifies for membership based on his activity through Spam. However that isn't something that Biyah addressed as security vizier. The fact that Osiris is raider is only mentioned to show that we are against his ideals more and thus are more susceptible to espionage by him. All in all, why did your article start with "Osiris is Raider..." besides sensationalism?
by Afforess » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:10 am
Solorni wrote:This screaaaaams Unibot.
by Glen-Rhodes » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:23 am
Venico wrote:The main reason Biyah would like to keep Ravania from the Deshret (legislative body) is because he believes that based on previous actions of Ravania, he can't be trusted inside of the government.
by South Pacific Belschaft » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:30 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Venico wrote:The main reason Biyah would like to keep Ravania from the Deshret (legislative body) is because he believes that based on previous actions of Ravania, he can't be trusted inside of the government.
There are plenty of leaky people in Osiris, so it's not just that Ravania leaked an innocuous thread about how TNP makes its sausage.
I was also surprised to learn that Osiris is officially a raider region. I knew Cormac had started to use the Osiris army to raid, but it's news to me that they're exclusively raider. I foresee this causing much more drama in the future.
THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF BELSCHAFT
GUARDIAN OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC
by Cormac A Stark » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:44 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:I was also surprised to learn that Osiris is officially a raider region. I knew Cormac had started to use the Osiris army to raid, but it's news to me that they're exclusively raider. I foresee this causing much more drama in the future.
by Venico » Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:45 am
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