The Black Riders - The Elite Cavalry of NationStates

[RiderSyl]

Defenders have given up on defending helpless founderless regions from our tag raids!

"When the going gets tough, give up and do something easier." - Motto of the Defender

[Land filled with People]

Great to see the tradition of tagging your own regions is back!

[RiderSyl]

Great to see the tradition of tagging your own regions is back!

Nice try. Those tags were all fresh captures.
Try to zing us with something more accurate please.

[Land filled with People]

Great to see the tradition of tagging your own regions is back!

Nice try. Those tags were all fresh captures.

No. Tagging regions that your own members have founded and then trying to pass off that as some great victory.

[Bodobol]

Defenders have given up on defending helpless founderless regions from our tag raids!

"When the going gets tough, give up and do something easier." - Motto of the Defender

May I refer you to the first link in my sig?

[RiderSyl]

Defenders have given up on defending helpless founderless regions from our tag raids!

May I refer you to the first link in my sig?

I already clicked it long ago (the name 'On Raiding' caught my eye), and I honestly don't buy into that.

It seems like an excuse manufactured to justify defender inefficiency. It seems to be doing its job too.
Now when your troops can't match up to our tag raiding, they convince themselves they don't have to because it's not "significant enough" to bother with.

Honestly, saying "The targets need to meet this level of significance before we try to defend them" is just a cop-out.

[The Grim Reaper]

It seems like an excuse manufactured to justify defender inactivity. It seems to be doing its job too.

Honestly, saying "The targets need to meet this level of significance before we try to defend them" is just a cop-out.

IMO it's a natural evolution of Defenderism to respond to the obsolete 'UCR Regional Sovereignty' theory that was pushed by early Moralists.

The more prevalent ideal of Native Rights shared both by traditional Moralism and Lazarene-style Defending most definitively works in the favour of Bodobol's argument.

[RiderSyl]

IMO it's a natural evolution of Defenderism to respond to the obsolete 'UCR Regional Sovereignty' theory that was pushed by early Moralists.

The more prevalent ideal of Native Rights shared both by traditional Moralism and Lazarene-style Defending most definitively works in the favour of Bodobol's argument.

I would call it a degeneration rather than an evolution, actually.

Getting away with doing less while convincing yourself you're doing more is the stance only a fool should take.

[Bodobol]

IMO it's a natural evolution of Defenderism to respond to the obsolete 'UCR Regional Sovereignty' theory that was pushed by early Moralists.

The more prevalent ideal of Native Rights shared both by traditional Moralism and Lazarene-style Defending most definitively works in the favour of Bodobol's argument.

I would call it a degeneration rather than an evolution, actually.

Getting away with doing less while convincing yourself you're doing more is the stance only a fool should take.

If you were actually doing anything to damage the region, we'd be trying harder.

As it stands, tagging doesn't actually do any real damage and isn't worth our efforts.

[Coraxion]

Suomi was Clean Hit and WAD was Scalped by Rulebook. Its true that I Founded it. Its true that I forgot login to the Founder Ukko. Contrary to typical Defender and native thinking, The Black Riders has capable to do Self Corrections within its ranks. I was myself subject of that today, Thus I allowed Tagging happen by resurrecting CTE'd Founder Ukko and after that allowing delegate access for Syl. I was that Rider who demanded and objected that we should follow fully our own tagging protocol and procedure, but that was denied my Closest superior Officer and Pointman on My Own Home Region, where I was part of The Raid myself without any hesitations to follow Raid Leader, General Bob Moran's orders.

There are no Privileged Regions, no matter whom could be 'Native' of this or that Dump. The Organisation Gave me lesson keep my own Founders alive and regions Secure.

The Way these things work, and The Example for all crying petty moderates. Getting rid of Moderateness is long Process. Start it today by yourself too!

[Zaolat]

I don't like SFBA being hit, as tempting of a target as it is. Oh well.

[Drop Your Pants]

There are no Privileged Regions, no matter whom could be 'Native' of this or that Dump. The Organisation Gave me lesson keep my own Founders alive and regions Secure.

So you'll be tagging other raider regions again?

[Coraxion]

DYP. There should be only one Raider Organisation (100 or 0 regions, its irrelevant). Then we would achieve that Semi-mythical 'The Unity'. However, One thing is sure, it is not goal which can be achieved via Forum Topics, or aim which can be organised by mud-slinging each others.

My opinion... Will be Probably Overruled by my Superiors.

EDIT/ADD: Suomi = 'Finland' in Finnish

[Coraxion]

My opinion... Will be Probably Overruled by my Superiors.

Overruled by my superiors but not by these other guys browsing this thread Currently...

Users browsing this forum: __, Festavo, Nephmir, Unified Protectors

(I know its bad habit make multiple Comments and quote myself)

[Ambroscus Koth]

There should be only one Raider Organisation (100 or 0 regions, its irrelevant).

No.

[Feuer Ritter]

There should be only one Raider Organisation (100 or 0 regions, its irrelevant).

No.

Imagine the power........

[Lemongrad Union]

No.

Imagine the power........

Imagine the drawbacks though

[Bob Moran]

I'm sure all those delegates appreciated the help that NationStates' morally-righteous defenders lent them...

... oh wait. Guess they're too busy playing politics.

wat

TITO did a mission, so did LLA, WHR, etc.

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A lot of people have decided defending tags aren't really worth it.

(This is Horse btw)

Sweden and The Quiver? looking at it quickly Sweden tag was removed, and you guys defended a tag in The Quiver. That's hardly a ''mission'', you can do better!

[Darwinish Brentsylvania]

There should be only one Raider Organisation (100 or 0 regions, its irrelevant).

No.

Definitely not. Gameplay will lose so much fun.

[Coraxion]

No way. I cannot be only one who see sweet dreams about 5-15 Hordes of 5-20 disciplined updaters ravaging through the NationStates during single Update making 400 hits, and decapitating 180 WADs, splitting and rejoining, aiding 10 Occupations, participating few GCR Coups etc...

It is Dream, but it is plausible dream and only Achievable in theory only within single organisation. That organisation model doesn't require any 'own' regions. Not for The Organisation, not for the Members of It.

I would call that Fun.

[Nephmir]

That would be the best thing I've ever seen...it'd be an unstoppable superpower.

[Graf von Schlieffen]

No way. I cannot be only one who see sweet dreams about 5-15 Hordes of 5-20 disciplined updaters ravaging through the NationStates during single Update making 400 hits, and decapitating 180 WADs, splitting and rejoining, aiding 10 Occupations, participating few GCR Coups etc...

It is Dream, but it is plausible dream and only Achievable in theory only within single organisation. That organisation model doesn't require any 'own' regions. Not for The Organisation, not for the Members of It.

I would call that Fun.

There are different ideologies that interfere with something like this. There are Raider Purists, Imperialists and Moderates that cooperate in the name of Raider Unity. Some don't agree with tags, others don't like complete defacements and griefing etc. If you don't have people with the same way of thinking, a group like this will never work.

[Tim-Opolis]

There are no Privileged Regions, no matter whom could be 'Native' of this or that Dump.

Can I quote you on this in the future, because I think I will. It's good to see that TBR cares so much about Raider Unity, that they won't even try to avoid tagging their own.

As for the tagging thing? Call me when TBR does something relevant. The "On Raiding" link in Bodobol's signature describes my opinion perfectly. Furthermore, it's kind of difficult to do anything when our opponents have become 100% script-dependent

[Mallorea and Riva]

There are no Privileged Regions, no matter whom could be 'Native' of this or that Dump.

Can I quote you on this in the future, because I think I will. It's good to see that TBR cares so much about Raider Unity, that they won't even try to avoid tagging their own.

Fendas trying to start fights. Fendas trying to start fights everywhere.

TBR have my permission to target Tramiar's puppet dump/launch point whenever she let's the puppet CTE.

[Coraxion]

There are no Privileged Regions, no matter whom could be 'Native' of this or that Dump.

Can I quote you on this in the future, because I think I will. It's good to see that TBR cares so much about Raider Unity, that they won't even try to avoid tagging their own.

Again. Its My personal opinion. Not Official stance of TBR. Quote if you wish, for what ever purposes.