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by Augustus Rex » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:39 am
by Onderkelkia » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:27 am
Augustus Rex wrote:That's a lot of words for an issue that "makes little difference".
by Canton Empire » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:52 am
by Augustus Rex » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:27 am
by Syberis » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:46 am
Zaolat wrote:WHO THE F*** IS SYBERIS
by Altinsane » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:44 am
Onderkelkia wrote:This is not comparable. Individuals have no reasonable expectation of notification that they are no longer welcome in a region or on a region's forum unless they actually visit that region.
Onderkelkia wrote:At no time have I tried to hide my association with the LKE. Indeed, I've spoken with you on LKE-specific matters as well as on Balder matters.
Onderkelkia wrote:As for your complaints about lack of contact with other members of the LKE Monarchy, communication is a two-way street. Often more routine diplomatic contact is handled at a ministerial level. If Osiris wanted to speak with the Crown Prince or the Prince Imperial about any matter, then I'm quite sure they would have happily engaged with you. Maybe it would have been better if they had approached you for informal communication, but precisely the same applies the other way round. Emperor Theoden would likely have been in contact regarding several matters lately if he had not been unavoidably absent.
by Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:09 am
Altinsane wrote:LKE has sent several requests Osiris' direction in recent memory - voting against their commendation, ostracizing EMN so that they may be easily quashed, etc - all through Onder.
by The Tri State Area and Maine » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:13 am
Sancta Romana Ecclesia wrote:Altinsane wrote:LKE has sent several requests Osiris' direction in recent memory - voting against their commendation, ostracizing EMN so that they may be easily quashed, etc - all through Onder.
Thanks for the free promotion of our humble region, Your Imperial Majesty. We could never reach such notoriety so quickly, without Your unyielding support.
by Onderkelkia » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:21 am
Altinsane wrote:Onderkelkia wrote:This is not comparable. Individuals have no reasonable expectation of notification that they are no longer welcome in a region or on a region's forum unless they actually visit that region.
Are you saying this because you know LKE has been quietly banning Osirans from their Discord server and forum without any explanation? Tut tut. Didn't you say at some point that you would announce a proscription, but not a PNG? Is everyone in Osiris being individually PNGd? That's exciting, but seems frivolous.
Altinsane wrote:No. What you do instead is make requests on behalf of LKE and statements on behalf of Balder. This has not gone unnoticed. It's difficult not to notice someone blatantly having their interests in one region while using the weight of another to perpetuate them. LKE has sent several requests Osiris' direction in recent memory - voting against their commendation, ostracizing EMN so that they may be easily quashed, etc - all through Onder. Inversely, Onder's public statements have all been on behalf of Balder. Even in the IJCC issue when he was cited as the representation from LKE - side by side with NES and Solorni from Balder and Ervald from Europeia - the public voice he used was still Balder's. Even in the course of those conversations, Onder switched to speaking for Balder when it became convenient for him and left LKE sans representation in the discussion, which he followed up by presenting all future public conversations from the perspective of Balder and left LKE safe from the nonsense while he tossed Balder into the fray. Onder is privately the mouthpiece for LKE while publicly he lets Linkin make announcements so that he may be freed up to speak for another region.
Altinsane wrote:How long has Theoden been unavailable? Actually I did try to contact him on several occasions and found myself unable to reach him. He requires that you be friends on Discord to DM him and though I sent him a friend request back in March or April, it wasn't accepted for months and I couldn't reach him. Which is why I reached out to you instead a couple of times with questions. I hope he's okay. That's a long time to go without an Emperor.
Sancta Romana Ecclesia wrote:On another matter, is the LKE's Minister of the Exterior okay? He is supposed to be "responsible for the management of the region's foreign affairs in coordination with the Emperor."
by Sancta Romana Ecclesia » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:24 am
by The Tri State Area and Maine » Sat Nov 03, 2018 3:29 pm
Onderkelkia wrote:However, as you have now made us aware of steps targeted against LKE officials in Osiris, appropriate retaliatory measures have been taken. This does not apply to all members of Osiris.
by Onderkelkia » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:14 pm
The Tri State Area and Maine wrote:Onderkelkia wrote:However, as you have now made us aware of steps targeted against LKE officials in Osiris, appropriate retaliatory measures have been taken. This does not apply to all members of Osiris.
Didn't Balder already do that, though? Everybody already knew you were going to find an excuse, anyway.
by Syberis » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:55 pm
Zaolat wrote:WHO THE F*** IS SYBERIS
by Altinsane » Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:54 pm
Onderkelkia wrote:
With the exception of Cormac, I do not recall any significant Osirans who were banned from the LKE prior to the termination of the treaty. Cormac has been banned for years. After the LKE terminated the treaty today, our initial preference was not to immediately issue any bans. However, as you have now made us aware of steps targeted against LKE officials in Osiris, appropriate retaliatory measures have been taken.
by Augustus Rex » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:01 pm
by Alkasia » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:03 pm
Augustus Rex wrote:Dr. Kelkia, if you're going to beat a dead horse, then revive it to beat it again, do it the favor of ensuring it resurrects somewhere that's not Balder.
Koth wrote:Alk resembles some sort of slime mold that asexually reproduces scum, as is standard for XKI natives
Cormactopia Prime wrote:You're silly. I miss the XKI veterans who knew how to appropriately deal with raiders.
Kanglia wrote:Can confirm lynching Alk is the most satisfying thing. :p
Sarakart wrote:What a time to be alive. Welcome to the legislative revolution, the liberation wars have begun.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:"Something you thought you'd never see for $3000, Alex."
by Onderkelkia » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:12 pm
Altinsane wrote:Onderkelkia wrote:
With the exception of Cormac, I do not recall any significant Osirans who were banned from the LKE prior to the termination of the treaty. Cormac has been banned for years. After the LKE terminated the treaty today, our initial preference was not to immediately issue any bans. However, as you have now made us aware of steps targeted against LKE officials in Osiris, appropriate retaliatory measures have been taken.
Well that doesn't quite add up. I was made aware of this announcement's existence only because Osirans were concerned to have found themselves banned from LKE offsite property. Before that concern, I hadn't even glanced at on-site forums in something like a week. I had already been kicked out of LKE's server before I even read the post. I could not possibly have made you aware of anything of the sort. Could we get specifics on which Osirans you have decided deserved to be banned and to which of us you've chosen to grant amnesty? And for what reason that divide has been made?
If you're insistent on Osiris footing the blame for that one, I'm not going to argue with you. Obviously I was not able to tip you off on a subject I was not aware of and you were not able to retaliate against targets I have not mentioned, but. By all means, relinquish the blame to Osiris if it will soothe your mind. Doesn't really change anything for us.
by Miss Bad Life Choices » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:14 pm
by Devi Vytherin » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:09 am
RiderSyl wrote:It's interesting how both Balder and the LKE have had thin-skinned FA reactions lately, specifically related to being "insulted"...
I wonder what else the two regions have in common...?
by Th Empire of Wymondham » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:14 am
Bdurham07 wrote:Anyone think this is going a little to far, because I do.
by Syberis » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:16 am
RiderSyl wrote:It's interesting how both Balder and the LKE have had thin-skinned FA reactions lately, specifically related to being "insulted"...
I wonder what else the two regions have in common...?
Zaolat wrote:WHO THE F*** IS SYBERIS
by Theoden Sebastian » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:54 am
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