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The Land of Kings and Emperors

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Welcome to the Embassy of The Land of Kings and Emperors on the NationStates forums!

Updates and news from the LKE will be posted below.
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Postby Pyravar » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:55 pm

The Land of Kings and Emperors Foreign Despatch
TERRA REGUM IMPERATORUMQUE TOTUM MUNDUM REGET!

30th June 2013
WA Delegate: Caruba | Nation Count: 641 | Regional Rank: 16th
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Head of State: His Supreme Majesty Emperor Onder
Heir Apparent: His Supreme Highness Crown Prince Falconio
Prince Imperial: His Imperial Highness Gavin Novawk

The Imperial Council

Prime Minister: Valfor Talleyrand-Vulika
Deputy Prime Minister: Athelstan MacGregor
Secretary of State for External Affairs: Krimson Vulika
Secretary of State for Internal Affairs: Charles IX
Secretary for Colonial Affairs Josh Sebastian
Secretary of State for Culture: Megaleiotha Eirhno
Secretary of State for War: Cephal Talleyrand



Our Emperor Returns!

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Crowds fill the streets as Emperor Onder returns

In the middle of May His Supreme Majesty Onder Kelkia, our Emperor, returned to The Land of Kings and Emperors. To much jubilation, the Emperor announced his return to his duties as monarch and thanked Crown Prince Falconio for serving ably as regent. The Emperor also showed gratitude to the imperial governments which had served in office since the beginning of his leave of absence for their stewardship of the region and specifically praised the dedication which saw the LKE rise to over 700 citizens at one point.

The key change announced by the Emperor was to the composition of Imperial Family. The outgoing Prince Imperial, Julian Anumia, was praised for his loyal service to the LKE and was granted the title of Duke of Cawdor. Gavin Novawk was selected become the new Prince Imperial with specific responsibility for coordinating imperial relations with the wider political system. The Emperor cited the Prince's long dedication to the Imperial Government and to the region at large as the main reason for his choice. The Prince Imperial is required to be politically neutral but he has not been idle, launching an initiative on constitutional reform in the Estates Noble.

As is customary, the Emperor bestowed various titles and honours. Notably, Krimson Vulika was elevated to the peerage as Baron of North Durandia for his service in the Estates Common as Senator and Speaker as well as in various executive positions such as Interior Minister, Exterior Minister and Culture Minister. Furthermore, Julian Ulrics was created a Companion of the Order of Achievement for his extensive efforts in reinvigorating regional roleplay.

His Supreme Majesty took the opportunity to reshuffle the Guardian Council (a body charged with advising the Emperor himself). This was done in order to bring the region's rising stars into his confidence. The Emperor's selections were as follows:

The Baron of Shaftesbury, Cephal Talleyrand Moderator
The Marquis of Mornington, Charles I. Cerebella
The Earl of Scoll-Balow-Cambron, Wilhelm Somerset
The Viscount of Crownchester, Athelstan MacGregor
The Right Honourable Akillian
The Right Honourable Kaiserholt
The Right Honourable MagentaFairy
The Right Honourable Rinusje
The Right Honourable Sir Robin of Aelbarrow
The Right Honourable Josh Sebastian
The Right Honourable Valfor Talleyrand-Vulika




Imperial Party in by a hair

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The polls are full in this contested election

Citizens went to the polls for a tense and closely contested round of elections. Valfor Talleyrand-Vulika was elected Prime Minister by a single vote. The election began with an Imperial Party led before a swing in the vote in the Lion Party's favour, albeit a swing which ultimately proved insufficient to achieve parity. In the Estates Common, in a race declared by the Emperor to have 8 seats, 6 were filled by election results while two stood tied. The tied seats fought it out in the resulting by-election and the winners were declared. A full Estates Common now stands ready to debate the Imperial Government's business.

At the conclusion of the general election and the subsequent by-election, Josh Sebastian, Charles IX, Athelstan MacGregor and Valfor Talleyrand-Vulika were elected to the Estates Common from the Imperial Party. Akillian, Charles Cerebella, Sir Robin of Aelbarow and Julian Ulrics were elected from the Lion Party. This splits the Estates Common in half between the two parties.




A New Cabinet Formed

Upon election the Prime Minister made the following State of the Realm speech:

Amongst us is a summer activity lull. The LKE is already steps ahead. We must work together to make sure it stays this way. In the past, it has injured the LKE. But with the most active members in government, the lull stands no chance. But the fight does not stop there. As a community, a region on NationStates, as a fellow citizen, we must all contribute to activity in some form or fashion. Without the dedication that has been seen past and present, none of us would be here today.

I will make this quick as possible, as we have a lot of work to do. My administration is bringing it's A-Game. Instead of so many amendments, we are actually looking into establishing and writing Constitution X, as a means to make it easier and more efficient. Effective changes, and with no doubt will be expected to be brought to debate, include making the LKE a Parliamentary Democracy, Executive Decrees that the Prime Minister will be afforded in Emergency situations but of course will need the approval of the Estates General, a more specific Decree for the PM, is to bring forth a Militia. This will actually be effective in cases of the founder nation of the LKE Ceasing to Exist, as seen last year, during the Emperor's leave.

I personally want to bring discussion to a 'Switch and Resign Act', but perhaps implemented. This puts a restriction on Legislators, that if they switch a party, they must resign from any elected post. This is to ensure that the Citizens' voice is always heard. If an elect was voted in by the manifesto of one party, it is not fair to the citizens to let that person stay in. Different Parties have different beliefs. This is not meant to cause more division, but as a means to let the Citizens' voice be heard at all times. Of course, this will have to be all flattened out and clarified, in which the Estates General will be in charge of that.

Also, I would like to bring to light my personal opinion of guides. There are some good guides out there, but the thing is, guides need to be actively updated to be more specific and elaborate. This, I feel, takes time away from other things, which is why I suggested in both of my speeches that I want to set up a Q&A Thread. It will be a place to ask questions and get answers from anyone. This effectively localizes questions and answers, so if someone might have a question that has already been answered, they can find the answer right then and there. This is so much more efficient, however, new and old citizens will, without a doubt, always be able to personally contact anyone with any type of question.

As mentioned in my Ticket speech, my chosen government is as follows:

Prime Minister: Valfor Talleyrand-Vulika
Deputy Prime Minister: Athelstan MacGregor
Secretary of State for Exterior: Krimson Vulika
Secretary of State for Interior: Charles IX
Secretary of State for Culture: Megaleiotha Eirhno
Secretary of State for Colonies: Josh Sebastian
Secretary of State for War: Cephal Talleyrand

Junior Ministers can be announced by the respective Secretary of State as they wish.

And should it be mentioned, I do choose to let the current Lord Chancellor continue as he is.

I would also, if I may, change the membership to the Sentinel Council. I would like the following to be a part of the council:

Cephal Talleyrand - Prefect
Krimson Vulika
Akillian
Josh Sebastian
Athelstan MacGregor
and Myself, VTV

I wholeheartedly believe the aforementioned will not disappoint the LKE. They are all wonderful and active citizens.

Now, time to get to work.

Thank you for your support,
Valfor Talleyrand-Vulika





The Second Monarchist Conference

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In late May, The Land of Kings and Emperors was host to a large number of monarchies from across NationStates. The gathering ranged from close imperialist allies to developing new monarchies to sinker regions. Among the monarchs attending were Katherine; Queen of Balder and Empires of Earth, Feux; King of Lazarus, Cerian Quilor; King of Kantrias, Joakim; King-Emperor of the Kingdom of Denmark and the Royal Danish Commonwealth, Isidor Casimir Somerset-Anumia; Keisari of Asgard, Charles Cerebella; King of Albion, Alicia Diana DiLaurentis-Stewart; Empress of The Empire of Oceania, and FreeSoc; King of Mazeria.

The treaty, derived in part from an earlier agreement reached at the Monarchist Conference in the LKE last year, was designed to enhance cooperation between regions with the aim of strengthening monarchist cultures and sentiment with NS. This second conference was called to reform the old treaty to enable the easier regulation of new members. It will also provide a basis for follow-up on the promises mad by allowing signatories to elect officers to facilitate cultural exchange. It is currently undergoing ratification within the participant regions.




Summer Solstice Festival


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Following his appointment as Culture Minister, Megaleiotha Eirhno by establishing the Summer Solstice Celebration. Ambassadors were instructed to distribute a general invite to many friends of the LKE alerting them to the festival. The fun in the sun saw games from the classic 'Corrupt a Wish' to Season and Region Wars. A degree of roleplay was also to be found in the ballroom as people joined others in the Celebration's formal occasion. More roleplay was exhibited in the 'Out on the Town' section of the Celebration. This saw participants taking on roles such as merchants to sell their wares to the community.

The party is still going, so come down quick to The Land of Kings and Emperors to join in the end of the festival.




Colonial Development in Munster

The Electorate of Munster has long served as a military base for the LKE and our allies. Our history with the region goes back to July 2006, when it became the first region the LKE ever invaded, and further back to March 2006 when N Ireland fought with the Red Liberty Alliance for control of Munster. In light of our military and historic connections to Munster, we are pleased to announce that we now intend to move it to the forefront of the Empire. With a new social and political system designed on a Celtic tribal theme, Munster will be developed into a strong and sustainable dominion under the banner of LKE colonialism.




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UIAF Storms to Victory in The True Rebirth

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In address to the region, Emperor Onder announced to our citizens that the United Imperial Armed Forces of the LKE and TNI had captured The True Rebirth. As he explains, this founderless region had the rather strange idea that they could get away with posting a recruitment message on the regional message board of an LKE colony without retribution:

Citizens of The LKE,

Rejoice, for the sovereignty of the Empire has been asserted.

The Vice-Delegate of The True Rebirth, with official sanction from their Chairman of Foreign Affairs, marched into Polis and posted a recruitment message.

That is not acceptable conduct for visitors to the Empire of The Land of Kings and Emperors. It is a violation of our sovereignty for foreign governments to presume to recruit our citizens.

Accordingly, the United Imperial Armed Forces have retaliated against The True Rebirth by invading the region.

I would like to thank Lieutenant-General Ein for organizing this action. For this work on behalf of the Empire, he is awarded the Valour Medal, 3rd Class.

Major-General Cephal Talleyrand, Lieutenant-Colonel Valfor Talleyrand-Vulika, Regimental Sergeant Major Athelstan MacGregor, Sergeant Krimson Vulika and Sergeant Michael Talleyrand are also to be commended for their role in the campaign to capture The True Rebirth.

The integrity of our empire has been preserved.

TERRA REGUM IMPERATORUMQUE TOTUM MUNDUM REGET!


Beyond our occupation of The True Rebirth, the UIAF have been engaging an intensive series of operations designed to put pressure on the United Defenders League and the Founderless Regions Alliance. Their response to most of these raids has been lacklustre at best. Nonetheless, since the LKE's last update in May, the UIAF has energetically conducted countless cascade raids. A particular highlight occurred on 28 May, when a grand total of twenty seven regions were taken in one update alone. We were also honoured to support our allies Europeia and Albion in the occupations of St Abbaddon and Quebec respectively. The UIAF were also glad to assist our friend Mazeria in securing England. UIAF reinforcements continue to provide a strong buffer against 'liberation' attempts and are now coupled with an update force capable of delivering large-scale cascade operations. This has been possible because of the development of a training programme for new officers.



Written by: Krimson Vulika, Secretary of State for External Affairs


On behalf of the Government and Citizens of the LKE, I wish all our friends of NS the best.


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Postby Cromarty » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:18 pm

Jesus Christ learn to bbcode.

It makes you look really amateurish.
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Postby Gavin Novawk » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:23 pm

The Secretary of State for External Affairs shall be altering the post as soon as possible. It is his first post using BBCodes to such an extent, so I doubt he anticipated the large amount of change required as opposed to IF forums.

EDIT: He has done so as I posted.
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Postby Pyravar » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:36 pm

I posted it so I'd know what repairs I'd need to place upon it.

Repairs are in place now.
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Postby Utilitas » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:51 pm

I take it many LKE citizens are Giants fans?

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Utilitas wrote:I take it many LKE citizens are Giants fans?

Only so far as giants are always useful units in warfare...

Oh, you're referring to sport? :blink:
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Postby Cromarty » Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:37 pm

Pyravar wrote:I posted it so I'd know what repairs I'd need to place upon it.

Repairs are in place now.

Much better. Although the preview button works well for that. :)

Nice update btw.
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Postby Winsbury » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:41 am

I am very happy to say that The LKE has received an apology from The True Rebirth for the violation of our sovereignty:
Alruniea wrote:We the people and government of The True Rebirth humbly and unreservedly apologize to The Emperor of The Land of Kings and Emperors for violating the LKE’s sovereignty over Polis by posting a recruitment on their regional message board. We recognize why the United Imperial Armed Forces have chosen to retaliate. We promise never to disrespect the territory or prerogatives of the Emperor of the LKE again.

No one may oppose the mighty LKE and our forces!
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Gavin Novawk wrote:
Utilitas wrote:I take it many LKE citizens are Giants fans?

Only so far as giants are always useful units in warfare...

Oh, you're referring to sport? :blink:


The people in the picture cheering for Onder are wearing New York Giants garb

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Postby Valfor » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:18 am

The Land of Kings and Emperors



The Land of Kings and Emperors notes and welcomes the agreement of the Kemetic Republic of Osiris to the following terms:
1. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris will be restored as the ruling government of Osiris.
2. The delegacy will be transfered directly from The Dourian Embassy to Cormac A Stark.
3. The Dourian Embassy will not be ejected or banned from the region thereafter.
4. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris agrees to close relations with the Founderless Region Alliance (FRA).
5. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris agrees that all relations with the West Pacific will remain closed permanently.
6. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris agrees to end its participation in the Pan-Sinker Security Pact.
7. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris recognises Gatesville's intentions in their own unique way to promote sovereignty in Nationstates through the occupation of Osiris, thanks Gatesville for their willingness to broker a deal, and assures them that no ill-will remains.
8. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris recognises the support of The New Inquisition and The Land of Kings and Emperors in resolving this conflict and thanks them for their patience, loyalty and support throughout in dealing with all their stakeholders.


Throughout this conflict, The LKE's ultimate objectives have been stability, freedom and democracy in Osiris. A precondition to achieving the former objectives was naturally the removal of FRA and UDL influence. To achieve the latter meanwhile, the return of the Delegacy to the rightfully elected Pharoah, Cormac, was fundamental. It is for these reasons that The LKE used its considerable military leverage, achieved through the extensive UIAF deployment, to support negotiations between both sides in order to bring about a peaceful settlement. The agreement of the Kemetic Republic to these terms reflects such a peaceful settlement.

We are grateful to Osiris for their tribute to our role in reaching this agreement and thereby resolving this conflict, and we will now work to help secure the Delegacy as per the terms of the agreement, as soon as possible.


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Valfor wrote:The LKE used its considerable military leverage, achieved through the extensive UIAF deployment, to support negotiations between both sides in order to bring about


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Valfor wrote:
The Land of Kings and Emperors

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The Land of Kings and Emperors notes and welcomes the agreement of the Kemetic Republic of Osiris to the following terms:
1. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris will be restored as the ruling government of Osiris.
2. The delegacy will be transfered directly from The Dourian Embassy to Cormac A Stark.
3. The Dourian Embassy will not be ejected or banned from the region thereafter.
4. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris agrees to close relations with the Founderless Region Alliance (FRA).
5. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris agrees that all relations with the West Pacific will remain closed permanently.
6. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris agrees to end its participation in the Pan-Sinker Security Pact.
7. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris recognises Gatesville's intentions in their own unique way to promote sovereignty in Nationstates through the occupation of Osiris, thanks Gatesville for their willingness to broker a deal, and assures them that no ill-will remains.
8. The Kemetic Republic of Osiris recognises the support of The New Inquisition and The Land of Kings and Emperors in resolving this conflict and thanks them for their patience, loyalty and support throughout in dealing with all their stakeholders.


Throughout this conflict, The LKE's ultimate objectives have been stability, freedom and democracy in Osiris. A precondition to achieving the former objectives was naturally the removal of FRA and UDL influence. To achieve the latter meanwhile, the return of the Delegacy to the rightfully elected Pharoah, Cormac, was fundamental. It is for these reasons that The LKE used its considerable military leverage, achieved through the extensive UIAF deployment, to support negotiations between both sides in order to bring about a peaceful settlement. The agreement of the Kemetic Republic to these terms reflects such a peaceful settlement.

We are grateful to Osiris for their tribute to our role in reaching this agreement and thereby resolving this conflict, and we will now work to help secure the Delegacy as per the terms of the agreement, as soon as possible.

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Postby Sedgistan » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:37 am

Valfor wrote:Throughout this conflict, The LKE's ultimate objectives have been stability, freedom and democracy in Osiris. A precondition to achieving the former objectives was naturally the removal of FRA and UDL influence.

For those of us sadly unable to grasp the obviousness of this statement, please could you explain why that is the case?
Valfor wrote:To achieve the latter meanwhile, the return of the Delegacy to the rightfully elected Pharoah, Cormac, was fundamental.

Which troops from the LKE were proudly doing the last couple of weeks by endorsing the person denying him the Delegacy?

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Postby Whiskum » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:46 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Valfor wrote:Throughout this conflict, The LKE's ultimate objectives have been stability, freedom and democracy in Osiris. A precondition to achieving the former objectives was naturally the removal of FRA and UDL influence.

For those of us sadly unable to grasp the obviousness of this statement, please could you explain why that is the case?
For it clearly corroded their independence, as was illustrated by the fact they were issuing military propaganda on the UDL's behalf.

Sedgistan wrote:
Valfor wrote:To achieve the latter meanwhile, the return of the Delegacy to the rightfully elected Pharoah, Cormac, was fundamental.

Which troops from the LKE were proudly doing the last couple of weeks by endorsing the person denying him the Delegacy?
Sedge, as it seems the case you have not been able to put this together yet, we entered the region with the full approval and support of Cormac, the rightful Pharoah, with the specific aim of achieving our objectives as outlined above. Hopefully this all makes a lot more sense now.
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Postby John Geary » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:49 am

Whiskum wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:For those of us sadly unable to grasp the obviousness of this statement, please could you explain why that is the case?
For it clearly corroded their independence, as was illustrated by the fact they were issuing military propaganda on the UDL's behalf.

Sedgistan wrote:Which troops from the LKE were proudly doing the last couple of weeks by endorsing the person denying him the Delegacy?
Sedge, as it seems the case you have not been able to put this together yet, we entered the region with the full approval and support of Cormac, the rightful Pharoah, with the specific aim of achieving our objectives as outlined above. Hopefully this all makes a lot more sense now.

So Cormac aided the coup of his own region... Sounds like he should be prosecuted.

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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:49 am

That is not what he said. Perhaps you should read the statements themselves.
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Postby Mahaj » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:50 am

Whiskum wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:For those of us sadly unable to grasp the obviousness of this statement, please could you explain why that is the case?
For it clearly corroded their independence, as was illustrated by the fact they were issuing military propaganda on the UDL's behalf.

Sedgistan wrote:Which troops from the LKE were proudly doing the last couple of weeks by endorsing the person denying him the Delegacy?
Sedge, as it seems the case you have not been able to put this together yet, we entered the region with the full approval and support of Cormac, the rightful Pharoah, with the specific aim of achieving our objectives as outlined above. Hopefully this all makes a lot more sense now.

So you're telling me Cormac approved the LKE coming in to endorse The Dourian Embassy?

In addition, where did Osiris issue propaganda on the UDL's behalf?
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Postby Mahaj » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:50 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:That is not what he said. Perhaps you should read the statements themselves.

Whiskum wrote:we entered the region with the full approval and support of Cormac, the rightful Pharoah
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Postby John Geary » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:51 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:That is not what he said. Perhaps you should read the statements themselves.


"Sedge, as it seems the case you have not been able to put this together yet, we entered the region with the full approval and support of Cormac, the rightful Pharoah, with the specific aim of achieving our objectives as outlined above. Hopefully this all makes a lot more sense now."

From this statement, I draw that Cormac approved LKE troops coming in to support a coup. I would call that treason.

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Postby North East Somerset » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:52 am

John Geary wrote:
Whiskum wrote:For it clearly corroded their independence, as was illustrated by the fact they were issuing military propaganda on the UDL's behalf.

Sedge, as it seems the case you have not been able to put this together yet, we entered the region with the full approval and support of Cormac, the rightful Pharoah, with the specific aim of achieving our objectives as outlined above. Hopefully this all makes a lot more sense now.

So Cormac aided the coup of his own region... Sounds like he should be prosecuted.


Actually, with the full support and signed approval of the Great Kenbet of Osiris (Head of the Judiciary), the Kai Repat of Osiris (Head of the Legislature), and indeed the Pharoah of Osiris (Head of the Executive). :)
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:52 am

Which was not saying that Cormac Helped to coup his own region, which is what I referred to. Attempting to read between the lines of Onder Kelkia is a losing battle. He chooses every word to mean exactly what it does. he doesn't leave anything between the lines to read.
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Postby Mahaj » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:53 am

North East Somerset wrote:
John Geary wrote:So Cormac aided the coup of his own region... Sounds like he should be prosecuted.


Actually, with the full support and signed approval of the Great Kenbet of Osiris (Head of the Judiciary), the Kai Repat of Osiris (Head of the Legislature), and indeed the Pharoah of Osiris (Head of the Executive). :)

So the Kai Repat, Pharaoh, and Kenbet approved this?

Could you release this approval publicly?
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