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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:25 pm
by Quebecshire
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Here's hoping this leads to LCN finding better partner regions to be honest. That UM fella can't really be trusted. A little birdy told me he cavorts with fascists and tries to coup regions his is allied with. Very sordid indeed.

Between the UDS and RTL we’re definitely opening up to possible new opportunities with regions we share common diplomatic goals with (regions that won’t blackmail us :) )

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:27 pm
by Honeydewistania
Quebecshire wrote:
The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:Here's hoping this leads to LCN finding better partner regions to be honest. That UM fella can't really be trusted. A little birdy told me he cavorts with fascists and tries to coup regions his is allied with. Very sordid indeed.

Between the UDS and RTL we’re definitely opening up to possible new opportunities with regions we share common diplomatic goals with (regions that won’t blackmail us :) )

Good for you guys.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:44 pm
by Quebecshire
Honeydewistania wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:Between the UDS and RTL we’re definitely opening up to possible new opportunities with regions we share common diplomatic goals with (regions that won’t blackmail us :) )

Good for you guys.

Idk how serious you are cuz you give me the vibe of being done with everyone here, but thanks(?)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:00 pm
by Christian Democrats
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:14 pm
by Christian Democrats
The Right to Life government is withdrawing its embassy from the League of "Conservative" Nations. Ill-mannered behavior toward diplomats and frequent use of racial and sexual slurs on offsite property have convinced the Right to Life government to cut ties.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:23 pm
by Quebecshire
Christian Democrats wrote:The Right to Life government is withdrawing its embassy from the League of "Conservative" Nations. Ill-mannered behavior toward diplomats and frequent use of racial and sexual slurs on offsite property have convinced the Right to Life government to cut ties.

Concerns not once brought to my attention by UM prior to SCI's vote on Access to Abortion, which happened to contrast with his.

That is a disingenuous claim, as the primary whining in their statement is directed to SCI, not our moderation policy.

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Also, per the LCN head moderator,

    "As Chief of the League’s Police Force I firmly believe that San Carlos Islands is not a serial rule breaker and no one has ever complained about his behaviour to anyone on the moderation team be it me or my Deputy or directly to the Consulate."
    - Amaan land, Chief of the LPF

Right to Life demanded we remove SCI from office or they would reconsider our relationship, including embassies. Our government was unanimous and clear that this would not happen, and shortly thereafter embassies would have been closed. Had I bent the knee, they would not have closed. This was not about what you say it was.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:29 pm
by Christian Democrats
Quebecshire wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:The Right to Life government is withdrawing its embassy from the League of "Conservative" Nations. Ill-mannered behavior toward diplomats and frequent use of racial and sexual slurs on offsite property have convinced the Right to Life government to cut ties.

Concerns not once brought to my attention by UM prior to SCI's vote on Access to Abortion, which happened to contrast with his.

That is a disingenuous claim, as the primary whining in their statement is directed to SCI, not our moderation policy.

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Also, per the LCN head moderator,

    "As Chief of the League’s Police Force I firmly believe that San Carlos Islands is not a serial rule breaker and no one has ever complained about his behaviour to anyone on the moderation team be it me or my Deputy or directly to the Consulate."
    - Amaan land, Chief of the LPF

Right to Life demanded we remove SCI from office or they would reconsider our relationship, including embassies. Our government was unanimous and clear that this would not happen, and shortly thereafter embassies would have been closed. Had I bent the knee, they would not have closed. This was not about what you say it was.

Your delegate's misconduct impelled Right to Life to reconsider its relationship with the LCN. Right to Life decided to cut its ties with LCN based on a host of factors, including the ones mentioned in the President's statement and elsewhere in this thread.

hmmmm

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:30 pm
by Spode Humbled Minions
Christian Democrats wrote:The Right to Life government is withdrawing its embassy from the League of "Conservative" Nations. Ill-mannered behavior toward diplomats and frequent use of racial and sexual slurs on offsite property have convinced the Right to Life government to cut ties.

Didn't you maintain ties to the FCN back when it had a few thousand usages of the n word?
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Anyhow, it's odd that SCI's status, or his political beliefs on China, etc. only became an issue around the exact moment SCI voted in a manner that you didn't like. *shrug*

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:30 pm
by United Massachusetts
Perhaps because we weren't aware of the extent of the problem. I don't keep tabs on y'all's Discord server, and we generally trust you all to manage your own affairs.

But something is very obviously wrong here, given that your RMB literally devolved into outright defending the use of anti-gay slurs over the past few hours.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:31 pm
by United Massachusetts
Spode Humbled Minions wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:The Right to Life government is withdrawing its embassy from the League of "Conservative" Nations. Ill-mannered behavior toward diplomats and frequent use of racial and sexual slurs on offsite property have convinced the Right to Life government to cut ties.

Didn't you maintain ties to the FCN back when it had a few thousand usages of the n word?
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Anyhow, it's odd that SCI's status, or his political beliefs on China, etc. only became an issue around the exact moment SCI voted in a manner that you didn't like. *shrug*

FCN indicated an intent to change that and clamp down on this rhetoric. You all did not

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:32 pm
by Quebecshire
United Massachusetts wrote:Perhaps because we weren't aware of the extent of the problem. I don't keep tabs on y'all's Discord server, and we generally trust you all to manage your own affairs.

But something is very obviously wrong here, given that your RMB literally devolved into outright defending the use of anti-gay slurs over the past few hours.

a) Didn't you maintain ties to the FCN back when it had a few thousand usages of the n word?

b) No, it didn't. Buddy. Pal. Friendo. Liar. You're just mischaracterizing us as a result of SCI not doing what you wanted.

hmmmm

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:32 pm
by Spode Humbled Minions
United Massachusetts wrote:
Spode Humbled Minions wrote:Didn't you maintain ties to the FCN back when it had a few thousand usages of the n word?
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Anyhow, it's odd that SCI's status, or his political beliefs on China, etc. only became an issue around the exact moment SCI voted in a manner that you didn't like. *shrug*

FCN indicated an intent to change that and clamp down on this rhetoric. You all did not

*looks in server with dustpan*
Not seeing thousands of uses of the n word in here yet, but feel free to help me look

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:32 pm
by Quebecshire
United Massachusetts wrote:
Spode Humbled Minions wrote:Didn't you maintain ties to the FCN back when it had a few thousand usages of the n word?
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Anyhow, it's odd that SCI's status, or his political beliefs on China, etc. only became an issue around the exact moment SCI voted in a manner that you didn't like. *shrug*

FCN indicated an intent to change that and clamp down on this rhetoric. You all did not

But uh, we don't allow that rhetoric... the stuff the FCN got in trouble for isn't allowed here. ;)

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:33 pm
by Christian Democrats
Spode Humbled Minions wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:The Right to Life government is withdrawing its embassy from the League of "Conservative" Nations. Ill-mannered behavior toward diplomats and frequent use of racial and sexual slurs on offsite property have convinced the Right to Life government to cut ties.

Didn't you maintain ties to the FCN back when it had a few thousand usages of the n word?

I take this as an admission that LCN members frequently use the n-word on offsite property.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:33 pm
by Quebecshire
Christian Democrats wrote:
Spode Humbled Minions wrote:Didn't you maintain ties to the FCN back when it had a few thousand usages of the n word?

I take this as an admission that LCN members frequently use the n-word on offsite property.

It isn't.

EDIT: You also didn't reply to the point, buddy.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm
by Dreadton
United Massachusetts wrote:Perhaps because we weren't aware of the extent of the problem. I don't keep tabs on y'all's Discord server, and we generally trust you all to manage your own affairs.

But something is very obviously wrong here, given that your RMB literally devolved into outright defending the use of anti-gay slurs over the past few hours.


so gay slurs is where you draw the line? not nazis or overthrowing governments?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm
by United Massachusetts
And yet you allowed the use of anti-gay slurs by government officials. I doubt -- very strongly -- that it is the only time the term has been used

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:35 pm
by Quebecshire
Dreadton wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Perhaps because we weren't aware of the extent of the problem. I don't keep tabs on y'all's Discord server, and we generally trust you all to manage your own affairs.

But something is very obviously wrong here, given that your RMB literally devolved into outright defending the use of anti-gay slurs over the past few hours.


so gay slurs is where you draw the line? not nazis or overthrowing governments?

He also cares more about a LGBT member of the LCN using the bundle of sticks word more than he cares about his own region members saying homosexuality is like adultery (literally said today and as far as I know, not a belief any LCNer has).

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
by United Massachusetts
Dreadton wrote:
United Massachusetts wrote:Perhaps because we weren't aware of the extent of the problem. I don't keep tabs on y'all's Discord server, and we generally trust you all to manage your own affairs.

But something is very obviously wrong here, given that your RMB literally devolved into outright defending the use of anti-gay slurs over the past few hours.


so gay slurs is where you draw the line? not nazis or overthrowing governments?

I have apologised for the TNP incident before and I will again. I don't see how it is relevant to the LCN.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
by Gagium
Christian Democrats wrote:
Spode Humbled Minions wrote:Didn't you maintain ties to the FCN back when it had a few thousand usages of the n word?

I take this as an admission that LCN members frequently use the n-word on offsite property.

Clown

hmmmm

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by Spode Humbled Minions
Christian Democrats wrote:
Spode Humbled Minions wrote:Didn't you maintain ties to the FCN back when it had a few thousand usages of the n word?

I take this as an admission that LCN members frequently use the n-word on offsite property.

Uh, of the 6 instances of the n word on our server, one is in quotation for moderation purposes, and the other 5 are related to people playing rap music with that word in the title, but go off I guess?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by Quebecshire
United Massachusetts wrote:
Dreadton wrote:
so gay slurs is where you draw the line? not nazis or overthrowing governments?

I have apologised for the TNP incident before and I will again. I don't see how it is relevant to the LCN.

Because you're a hypocrite and an opportunist who created drama from nothing because SCI didn't vote your way.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by Dreadton
United Massachusetts wrote:
Dreadton wrote:
so gay slurs is where you draw the line? not nazis or overthrowing governments?

I have apologised for the TNP incident before and I will again. I don't see how it is relevant to the LCN.


It goes to your base hypocrisy as a person and a player.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by Christian Democrats
Quebecshire wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:I take this as an admission that LCN members frequently use the n-word on offsite property.

It isn't.

EDIT: You also didn't reply to the point, buddy.

As United Massachusetts said, the Right to Life government does not monitor the offsite properties of its allies. Widespread racism in LCN came to our attention only recently. Within hours, the Right to Life government decided to cut ties.

The FCN has a treaty with Right to Life. Breaking those ties would require legislative action.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 pm
by Quebecshire
Christian Democrats wrote:
Quebecshire wrote:It isn't.

EDIT: You also didn't reply to the point, buddy.

As United Massachusetts said, the Right to Life government does not monitor the offsite properties of its allies. Widespread racism in LCN came to our attention only recently. Within hours, the Right to Life government decided to cut ties.

The FCN has a treaty with Right to Life. Breaking those ties would require legislative action.

There is no widespread racism in the LCN.

We have built a community that welcomes all people of different backgrounds.