Population

by **The United States of Emenia** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:54 pm

I have a question... do most nations cap their population for role play and factbooks and such?

by **The United Soviet Socialist Republic** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:55 pm

Yes. It is bad RP etiquette to RP with your national population.

by **The Orson Empire** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:56 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Yes. It is bad RP etiquette to RP with your national population.

...who told you that? Because that's not true at all.

by **Nidaria** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:56 pm

Yes, NationStates population grows unrealistically, and for balance it is necessary to constrain it.

by **The United Soviet Socialist Republic** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:57 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Yes. It is bad RP etiquette to RP with your national population.

...who told you that?

If you have a population of 21 billion in your NS nation, it is incredibly bad RPing to RP with that population.

by **Neo-Assyrian Empire** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:57 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Yes. It is bad RP etiquette to RP with your national population.

...who told you that?

Exactly. I don't see a problem in not using Pop. Caps.

The United States of Emenia wrote:I have a question... do most nations cap their population for role play and factbooks and such?

Yes, that is the reason for most Population Caps, but you aren't forced to do it.

by **Abatael** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:58 pm

Nidaria wrote:Yes, NationStates population grows unrealistically, and for balance it is necessary to constrain it.

It depends on what you're RP'ing. That is, in no way, a universal truth.

by **Abatael** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:59 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:...who told you that?

If you have a population of 21 billion in your NS nation, it is incredibly bad RPing to RP with that population.

You can't say that as if it were indiscriminately applicable. It changes case by case. Some people may being RP'ing like that, and it's appropriate in their RP. Others may not.

by **Juroain** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:00 pm

Abatael wrote:
Nidaria wrote:Yes, NationStates population grows unrealistically, and for balance it is necessary to constrain it.

It depends on what you're RP'ing. That is, in no way, a universal truth.

Especially for PMT races that aren't human...even PT and MT

Don't forget FT!

by **Umbra Ac Silentium** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:00 pm

Nah, some of the best roleplayers on the forum [the grand world order for example,] use their "actual" population. It's a matter of personal preference.

by **Kington Langley** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:00 pm

Most people I RP with have realistic population caps, mine for example is a manageable 84 million.

by **The United Soviet Socialist Republic** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:01 pm

Abatael wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:If you have a population of 21 billion in your NS nation, it is incredibly bad RPing to RP with that population.

You can't say that as if it were indiscriminately applicable. It changes case by case. Some people may being RP'ing like that, and it's appropriate in their RP. Others may not.

It's number wanking

by **Abatael** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:02 pm

Juroain wrote:
Abatael wrote: It depends on what you're RP'ing. That is, in no way, a universal truth.

Especially for PMT races that aren't human...even PT and MT

Don't forget FT!

Yes. For instance, if your nation were a galactic empire, then it would make sense to have a larger population. However, if your nation were the size of Somalia, you would want to have a cap.

by **Phing Phong** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:02 pm

Generally, for non-FT nations, the gameplay population is too large to be realistic. Many nations therefore establish RP populations which grow at a more sensible rate. However, this is not compulsory—a key aspect of roleplay is the freedom with which it can be conducted.

by **Abatael** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:04 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
You can't say that as if it were indiscriminately applicable. It changes case by case. Some people may being RP'ing like that, and it's appropriate in their RP. Others may not.

It's number wanking

No; it's not. It's completely legitimate, and it's completely practical. If a person RP's with a nation in charge of a whole universe, it would make sense for his population to be a lot larger than an Earth-based nation. You have a provincial view on RP'ing. Others may RP differently than you.

by **The United States of Emenia** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:05 pm

So would a realistic population cap for a "superpower" nation be like around 650 odd million people?

by **The United Soviet Socialist Republic** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:05 pm

Abatael wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:It's number wanking

No; it's not. It's completely legitimate, and it's completely practical. If a person RP's with a nation in charge of a whole universe, it would make sense for his population to be a lot larger than an Earth-based nation. You have a provincial view on RP'ing. Others may RP differently than you.

FT population, sure. Anything else, NO.

by **Abatael** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:06 pm

The United States of Emenia wrote:So would a realistic population cap for a "superpower" nation be like around 650 odd million people?

I would limit it at 400 million.

by **Urcea** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:06 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Yes. It is bad RP etiquette to RP with your national population.

lel wut?

A lot of good role players who have been around forever use their real population.

by **Neo-Assyrian Empire** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:07 pm

The United States of Emenia wrote:So would a realistic population cap for a "superpower" nation be like around 650 odd million people?

Well, maybe a bit lower. When I had a number cap for a short time, I had it at about 425 million. I'd try to put it somewhere around the 400-500 range.

by **Thafoo** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:07 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:...who told you that?

If you have a population of 21 billion in your NS nation, it is incredibly bad RPing to RP with that population.

It's entirely dependent on what age you are in. It would be more realistic, say, if you were living in a giant underground FT metropolis. But it would be bad etiquette to have a population of 21 billion if you were something like a stone age bang-rocks-together-and-see-what-happens-ocracy.

by **Abatael** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:07 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
No; it's not. It's completely legitimate, and it's completely practical. If a person RP's with a nation in charge of a whole universe, it would make sense for his population to be a lot larger than an Earth-based nation. You have a provincial view on RP'ing. Others may RP differently than you.

FT population, sure. Anything else, NO.

Or fantasy tech or even post-modern tech if they somehow united Earth under one administration. Again, enough of the provincialism.

by **Benomia** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:08 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Abatael wrote:
No; it's not. It's completely legitimate, and it's completely practical. If a person RP's with a nation in charge of a whole universe, it would make sense for his population to be a lot larger than an Earth-based nation. You have a provincial view on RP'ing. Others may RP differently than you.

FT population, sure. Anything else, NO.

I'm MT and I use my nation's population.

Are you going to tell me that I'm godmoddding by using in-game stats?

by **Abatael** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:09 pm

The U.S. is the only superpower, and it has approximately 250 million people. So, no larger than double that is what I would say.

by **The Warring States of the Mediterranean** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:09 pm

I u my ntion's stats unless they are unrealistic like my pop. is fine. It is only 1.78 Billion

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