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by Lord Ravenclaw » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:27 am
by Canton Empire » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:31 am
by Consular » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:44 am
Hileville wrote:Kris,
I think you forgot to point out that under the Charter (that has been dissolved), the CSS has no authority to declare a State of Emergency unless requested by the Delegate (me). It should also be noted that I am still the Delegate of the Coalition Government, unless the CSS has also empowered the Vice Delegate (Imki) to act as Delegate per Article 6, Section 3, Clause 6. I can also confirm that Imki has not asked for a State of Emergency. I have not been recalled form office, I have not been convicted of any crimes, and I have not lost my Citizenship according to the Charter (again that is now dissolved).
The CSS has no legal authority whatsoever per your laws.
The Official Regional Forums of the South Pacific reside at http://thesouthpacific.org where a Constitutional Convention is taking place.
Thanks!
by Valrifell » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:01 am
Lord Ravenclaw wrote:I'm afraid that I have to be that guy and remind you Hileville that only the Assembly of the Coalition of the South Pacific is empowered to dissolve its own governing documents/The Charter.
The Delegate does not have that authority, nor does the Cabinet anymore than I do in The North Pacific. Saying something does not unfortunately make it true.
by SouthMac » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:08 pm
Kringalia wrote:Today a majority of the Committee voted to declare a state of emergency, due to the rogue actions of the Cabinet. We will be contemplating further measures in addition to the state of emergency in the course of the follow days, many of which will be submitted to the Assembly for due approval. Business will continue as usual in our official forum, which is now located at http://tspforums.xyz.
by Zadiner » Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:46 pm
by SouthMac » Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:02 pm
Zadiner wrote:Basically everything done in the region in the past week has been illegal, so I don't understand why we can't wave our magic wands and do 'illegal' stuff as well.
by The Brotherhood of the Sword » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:43 pm
by Ikania » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:56 pm
by Consular » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:15 pm
by Hileville » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:54 pm
Consular wrote:From a brief read of your charter, Cormac actually seems to be correct, as much as it irritates me that him and Hile are rules lawyering in some perverse attempt to de legitimise the legitimate authorities. Who wrote the Charter of TSP and why is it such a self crippling mess?
by Todd McCloud » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:56 pm
by Unibot III » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:21 pm
Consular wrote:From a brief read of your charter, Cormac actually seems to be correct, as much as it irritates me that him and Hile are rules lawyering in some perverse attempt to de legitimise the legitimate authorities. Who wrote the Charter of TSP and why is it such a self crippling mess?
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Icecream Princess » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:23 pm
Unibot III wrote:He's right only insofar as the constitution never anticipated both the delegate and the vice delegate being rogue - because in past conflicts, it was only ever the delegate that had gone rogue.
Highly unlikely without a major gameplayer imo.Todd McCloud wrote:There is also some ill sentiments from nations caught in the middle, it seems. A third faction could actually arise from this, based on that observation alone.
Todd McCloud wrote:[*] The following folks should be allowed to add input: Farengeto, Kris Kringle, Glenn, and Belschaft. Those four should be pardoned and clean slates should be granted.
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:31 pm
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by Unibot III » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:10 pm
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Ambroscus Koth » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:56 pm
Unibot III wrote:Icecream Princess wrote:This is pretty terrible logic in my opinion
It's slightly embarrassing. I didn't write it. But at the same time: 20/20 = perfect hindsight. A rogue delegate + rogue vice delegate is a new one for TSP - which is hindsight is kind of surprising given the Delegate is elected on a joint ticket with the Vice Delegate - so really it kind of makes sense the two would rogue together, but it's never happened before because the CSS and an elected VD were created in light of Milograd or at the very least around then (I'm vaguer on the details because I had left NS when Milo couped and the third Great Council was called - there also seems to be something called a "TSP Security Council" which existed been Jan-April 2013.) Prior to electing Vice Delegates, they were appointed and approved by the Assembly. Honestly I'd blame the poor law not on me (who wasn't around then) but on the guys who likely wrote the Great Council amendments: Hileville, Belschaft, perhaps even Milograd. *shrugs*
by Loftegen » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:12 am
by Zadiner » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:49 am
by Icecream Princess » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:35 am
by Glen-Rhodes » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:43 am
Ikania wrote:TSP Coup II: Here We Go Again!
by Tsunamy » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:43 am
by Kazmr » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:27 am
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