So they declared war on the GGR. You mean fascist regions are not allowed to fight one another?
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by Todd McCloud » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:25 am
by Ravania Prima » Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:31 am
by Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:15 am
by Todd McCloud » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:21 am
Ravania Prima wrote:Todd McCloud wrote:So they declared war on the GGR. You mean fascist regions are not allowed to fight one another?
Ah, now we get somewhere. UDL doesn't have a policy on fascist regions, so we defend and liberate them. That's what we do, you know.
But still Das Imperium isn't a fascist region, it's an imperialistic region... well a little German might help you to understand.
Das Imperium is German for The Empire.
by Sovreignry » Sun Jun 16, 2013 1:38 pm
Todd McCloud wrote:Ravania Prima wrote:
Ah, now we get somewhere. UDL doesn't have a policy on fascist regions, so we defend and liberate them. That's what we do, you know.
But still Das Imperium isn't a fascist region, it's an imperialistic region... well a little German might help you to understand.
Das Imperium is German for The Empire.
You're going to put all these barbers out of a job with the amount of hair-splitting in this thread.
by Cerian Quilor » Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:12 pm
by Ravania Prima » Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:29 pm
Todd McCloud wrote:Ravania Prima wrote:
Ah, now we get somewhere. UDL doesn't have a policy on fascist regions, so we defend and liberate them. That's what we do, you know.
But still Das Imperium isn't a fascist region, it's an imperialistic region... well a little German might help you to understand.
Das Imperium is German for The Empire.
You're going to put all these barbers out of a job with the amount of hair-splitting in this thread.
by Cormac Stark » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:35 pm
by Karputsk » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:48 pm
by Babiana » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:49 pm
Todd McCloud wrote:
Defenders Confused by Nazi Regions
At a conference somewhere: in what has been a series of blunders and backtracks this week, defender regions have continuously shot themselves in the foot over the question of what to do with Nazi regions. And as it turns out, had they simply done nothing, the Free Press News Service would be covering Todd's departure as delegate of TEP. So, obviously this is the better and more slaptastic story. We'll probably cover that other story on a slower news day. So defenders: stop being confusing and we'll be able to go back to our regularly scheduled programming!
Our coverage began with the canceling of the UDL-TEP treaty, a move which both sides are apparently not that broken up over. The cancellation was due to a number of reasons and shortcomings, but seemed to fall on one major issue: the Nazi region question. TEP was all "hey, we don't like the badspam so we're going to take GGR's embassies away cause that seems to be the only way we can impress upon them to stop." UDL was all "hey, don't do that! We don't like Nazis except when it comes to their embassies in non-Nazi regions! Leave 'em alone, we say! LEAVEBRITTANYNAZIS ALONE!" Anyway that among other reasons seemed to end the discussion. And that's exactly how it happened.
Enter two nights ago, when a coalition of nations attempted to invade Nazi Europe. Led by the rebranded "Fascist Reinforcement Alliance" (FRA) and other members (including UDL nations), defender stormtroopers and SS guards goose-stepped into the region and endorsed the delegate to secure the region for the Nazis. But wait, according to our last issue, the UDL doesn't support Nazis and would not help them in an invasion. Is that right? Or were they simply flying under the banner of the Fascist Reinforcement Alliance (who are mulling over adopting a "seig heil!" in their motto this very minute) in an attempt to dodge their own credo? And if that's the case, what's the point of a particular group having a stance on anything if all one has to do is change hats?
Earlier that day, defenders apparently invaded Das Imperium to remove the rightful delegate there, German Eagle, as pointed out in this post. It wasn't successful, but the fact remains: in the span of less than 24 hours, defenders invaded one fascist region, then defended another.
It's clear to the Free Press News Service that defenders don't know what to do with Nazi regions. First they don't like them but will support their embassies established with non-Nazi regions. Then they invade a Nazi region. Later on, they defend a Nazi region with a multitude of troops. So... what is exactly going on here?
"Back in my day, you chose a stance and stuck to it," Todd McCloud said while waving a cane he bought at the dollar store. You know, the cheap wooden one with a poorly-painted dragon on it an a marble on the handle. "That included sides, values, whatever. I mean, if you changed over from raiding to defending, you were more or less blackballed by the raiders, and looked upon with suspicion by defenders for years. For years I tells ya! And while values and specifics could morph over a career, they didn't turn on a dime within 24 hours! Where are the old ways of thought? Where have all the flowers gone? Why can't we have nice things?"
We turned off his mic to prevent a long rant. But still, it does raise a few interesting points. Where is the consistency here? Where are the hardline stances that ebb the nebulous tendencies of modern defenderism? Who is in charge of this stuff, and do they meet regularly to keep their stories / ideals straight? It remains to be seen, but Free Press News Service wonders if these groups will learn from the blunders of this week and get back to a consensus on what to do with these Nazi regions for the near future. Time will tell.
by The North Polish Union » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:11 pm
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by Tano » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:17 pm
Despite them being the enemy, I do feel compelled to stick up for the UDL here.
Why not label TEP a raider region, then you get to pick an R/D side and attack Nazi-related regions too?
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by Klaus Devestatorie » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:42 pm
by The Dark » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:49 pm
by Todd McCloud » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:49 pm
Cormac Stark wrote:Das Imperium is not nor has it ever been a fascist region. It's an imperialist region. You're just wrong here, Todd; unless you think that having a German name or theme makes a region fascist. In which case you're still wrong, but more laughably so.
by Todd McCloud » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:50 pm
The Dark wrote:Indeed, in my time as WAD of Das Imperium, we were certainly not aligned with any particular ideology, fascism or otherwise.
by Todd McCloud » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:56 pm
by Tim-Opolis » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:47 pm
The North Polish Union wrote:The UDL and FRA's defense of NAZI EUROPE is despicable, as well as being in clear violation of the UDL's policy on Nazi regions.
<Koth - 06/30/2020> I mean as far as GPers go, Tim is one of the most iconic
by Cerian Quilor » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:50 pm
by Feux » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:51 pm
Tim-Opolis wrote:The North Polish Union wrote:The UDL and FRA's defense of NAZI EUROPE is despicable, as well as being in clear violation of the UDL's policy on Nazi regions.
*raises an eyebrow and puts on his Chief of Foreign Affairs hat*
Really? Really? Please tell me where the United Defenders League stated any association with the Defense of Nazi Europe. I'll happily answer.. Nowhere.
The United Defenders League did not participate in any such defense. You may have been mislead to think this due to a few of our members participating in the Defense. However, they were doing this of their own free will and were not acting under the banner of the Greenwood Band. Although the United Defenders League does not condone the invasion of any region, we do not defend, or liberate Nazi Regions from invasions. Our individual members are free to do as they wish, but they do not represent the UDL if partaking in defenses of Nazis.
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by South Eastern North Western Prussia » Sun Jun 16, 2013 5:57 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:Are you really going to trot that out again?
by Mahaj » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:02 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:Are you really going to trot that out again?
<Koth> I'm still going by the assumption that Mahaj is Unibot's kid brother or something
Kandarin(Naivetry): You're going to have a great NS career ahead of you if you want it, Mahaj. :)
<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations
by SkyDip » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:06 pm
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.
Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.
Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.
Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.
by Solm » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:01 pm
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