Statement on TSP's Rogue Delegate

[The Most Glorious Hack]

Another victory for Gatesville!

Wait, what?

[New Rogernomics]

If staying up for every update for 3/6/9 months is what it takes to become first successful revolution in 10-frakking-years, it's probably worth it.

2 updates a day, every day for months? He'll be an emotional wreck at the end of it

Stayed up to watch the update, 280 vs 280 it got up to at some point. So he will be a wreck today unless he finds more support.

[Letoilenoir]

I must say, this is absolutely entertaining to watch unfold, and the Haven part makes it even more so.

Milograd my friend, you have caused a very boring region in NS to reverb with life. Besides, TSP needed some Spring Cleaning anyways, too many people for thier own good.

On another note, the lack of Raider support is concerning. only TBH has supported them so far, come on people? Where's TNI and the others?

The last thing the raiders/defenders want is a resurgent Pacific throwing its hand into the R/D arena

[Klaus Devestatorie]

I must say, this is absolutely entertaining to watch unfold, and the Haven part makes it even more so.

Milograd my friend, you have caused a very boring region in NS to reverb with life. Besides, TSP needed some Spring Cleaning anyways, too many people for thier own good.

On another note, the lack of Raider support is concerning. only TBH has supported them so far, come on people? Where's TNI and the others?

The last thing the raiders/defenders want is a resurgent Pacific throwing its hand into the R/D arena

Actually that sounds like hilarious fun, can all feeders please commence regular operations tomorrow kthxbai.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Milograd believes in his 'cause' as much as most of his rp supporters do. Little to no belief.

*shrug*

It doesn't take much belief in a cause to maintain a WA puppet.

[Cerian Quilor]

I must say, this is absolutely entertaining to watch unfold, and the Haven part makes it even more so.

Milograd my friend, you have caused a very boring region in NS to reverb with life. Besides, TSP needed some Spring Cleaning anyways, too many people for thier own good.

On another note, the lack of Raider support is concerning. only TBH has supported them so far, come on people? Where's TNI and the others?

The last thing the raiders/defenders want is a resurgent Pacific throwing its hand into the R/D arena

You would be wrong. The last thing I want, in regards to R/D, is a banning of R/D. A resurgent Feeder throwing their hands into R/D? *shrug* that's not even close.

[Cerian Quilor]

If staying up for every update for 3/6/9 months is what it takes to become first successful revolution in 10-frakking-years, it's probably worth it.

No, its really not. NS isn't that important.

[Manegarmr]

Get real CQ

If any Feeder delegate gets to wield ultimate power and decide to enter the fray they could lock down nearly every founderless region systematically, putting both defenders and raiders out of business - don`t like the Feeder policy on intervention? Boom, welcome to TRR. Don`t want to commit your WA to the military? Boom, welcome to TRR. Militarized a feeder and , unless the other feeders are going to stop you the affairs of the raiders/defenders are as the whining of a gnat to a Colossus, annoying but ultimately insignificant

The terror that such a feeder could unleash is not to be sniffed at

[Cerian Quilor]

No Feeder Delegate is going to be able to put the manpower behind that, Mag. because they're founderless, they need to actually, you know, protect themselves in a way Foundered regions don't.

[Manegarmr]

Since when was it a prerequisite for the General to be on the front line?

A properly established Feeder Delegate only needs to send a fraction of the regions WA nations into the field at anyone time

If astute enough he can use the carrot as well as the stick to produce results - fancy a Governorship of that juicy Founderless region? We can arrange that, support you etc and in return all we ask......


You get the picture

[Topid]

If staying up for every update for 3/6/9 months is what it takes to become first successful revolution in 10-frakking-years, it's probably worth it.

No, its really not. NS isn't that important.

That's the way I lean to, but as with most of the internet, we see that isn't how everyone sees the world.

[Cerian Quilor]

Since when was it a prerequisite for the General to be on the front line?

A properly established Feeder Delegate only needs to send a fraction of the regions WA nations into the field at anyone time

If astute enough he can use the carrot as well as the stick to produce results - fancy a Governorship of that juicy Founderless region? We can arrange that, support you etc and in return all we ask......


You get the picture

With Defenders having the numbers they can assemble, it can take upwards of forty endorsements to hold a territory for any meaningful length of time. Feeders can't spare that kind of numbers, not in more than one region, even if they could mobilize that much in the first place, which they can't for the same reason 10KI can't mobilize the majority of its 800-odd endorsements for military operations.

[Lint Roller]

Since when was it a prerequisite for the General to be on the front line?

A properly established Feeder Delegate only needs to send a fraction of the regions WA nations into the field at anyone time

If astute enough he can use the carrot as well as the stick to produce results - fancy a Governorship of that juicy Founderless region? We can arrange that, support you etc and in return all we ask......


You get the picture

With Defenders having the numbers they can assemble, it can take upwards of forty endorsements to hold a territory for any meaningful length of time. Feeders can't spare that kind of numbers, not in more than one region, even if they could mobilize that much in the first place, which they can't for the same reason 10KI can't mobilize the majority of its 800-odd endorsements for military operations.

It's really not that out of the realm of possibility. I've seen it done, "back in the day" look at the numbers Gatesville has, or the number the USSR had. With proper management and recruiting, a feeder could assemble an unstoppable force, making TNI look like bush league amateurs. Jussayin'

[Ananke II]

It's really not that out of the realm of possibility. I've seen it done, "back in the day" look at the numbers Gatesville has, or the number the USSR had. With proper management and recruiting, a feeder could assemble an unstoppable force, making TNI look like bush league amateurs. Jussayin'

The regions you mention are User created. People have made a conscious decision to join those, probably partly due to the ideology they expose. Most WA nations in the feeders are less interested in gameplay. Have you tried to build up/lead a feeder military?

[Lint Roller]

It's really not that out of the realm of possibility. I've seen it done, "back in the day" look at the numbers Gatesville has, or the number the USSR had. With proper management and recruiting, a feeder could assemble an unstoppable force, making TNI look like bush league amateurs. Jussayin'

The regions you mention are User created. People have made a conscious decision to join those, probably partly due to the ideology they expose. Most WA nations in the feeders are less interested in gameplay. Have you tried to build up/lead a feeder military?

The person behind the nation of Lint Roller has, and as I've said in my post you've quoted, with proper management and recruitment, a formidable force in todays' standards can be assembled. Don't forget, feeders also hold treaties and personal friendships with UCRs and can usually count on their support. A coalition force is also not outside the real of possibility.

[Ananke II]

The person behind the nation of Lint Roller has, and as I've said in my post you've quoted, with proper management and recruitment, a formidable force in todays' standards can be assembled. Don't forget, feeders also hold treaties and personal friendships with UCRs and can usually count on their support. A coalition force is also not outside the real of possibility.

Talk is easy. I don't think it's as easy as you guys make it out to be. But hey, I'm willing to be surprised, so feel free to give it a try.

[Lint Roller]

It's been done before. You've been around long enough to know that feeder militaries pose a significant threat when they rally behind a common goal/cause.

[Cormac Stark]

The person behind the nation of Lint Roller has, and as I've said in my post you've quoted, with proper management and recruitment, a formidable force in todays' standards can be assembled. Don't forget, feeders also hold treaties and personal friendships with UCRs and can usually count on their support. A coalition force is also not outside the real of possibility.

Talk is easy. I don't think it's as easy as you guys make it out to be. But hey, I'm willing to be surprised, so feel free to give it a try.

Lint Roller = Karpathos, Commander of The Pacific Army. I know because I recognize his switcher and he even asked me once to verify that it was his switcher to The Pacific Senate, which is thus also fully aware that a nation providing aid, comfort, an endorsement, and propaganda support to the rogue Delegate of The South Pacific is their very own Army Commander.

Anyway, The Pacific Army can field at most six updaters, which to be perfectly honest is a good number for a GCR military. But yeah, he's just blowing hot air here. If it were really easy, or even realistically possible, for a GCR to field the kind of military he's referring to it would have been done and done again, and by people far more competent than he and the Francos Spain wannabe he's endorsing in TSP.

[Lint Roller]

If you've seen the wording of my post, I said it could be done (and has been done in the past) under the right circumstances, also UCR alliances and a common goal/enemy could yield higher numbers. Jussayin.


addendum: Lint Roller has no WA status. Lint Roller=Lint Roller. I don't see anything related in Lint Roller to the nation "Karpothos" you reference.

Also: Propaganda support? I just negotiated a ceasefire on the RMB, the propaganda wars have ended on TSP RMB. Looks like you ran in to this one blind bub.

[Cormac Stark]

If you've seen the wording of my post, I said it could be done (and has been done in the past) under the right circumstances, also UCR alliances and a common goal/enemy could yield higher numbers. Jussayin.


addendum: Lint Roller has no WA status. Lint Roller=Lint Roller. I don't see anything related in Lint Roller to the nation "Karpothos" you reference.

Also: Propaganda support? I just negotiated a ceasefire on the RMB, the propaganda wars have ended on TSP RMB. Looks like you ran in to this one blind bub.

My apologies for the error regarding your WA status, it's been corrected. You did however just write a propaganda piece for the rogue regime that was locked by the moderators, here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=238507 You have also been publicly and enthusiastically supportive of the regime for days, so I don't think "propaganda support" was too much of a stretch.

In regard to whether you are or aren't Karpathos... are we really going to do this?

From a query on 20 January:

[15:32] <Karpathos> Hey, I'm "Lint Roller" in WZE
01[15:32] <Cormac> Ah cool, could you fly the new flag? Let me get you the link.
01[15:33] <Cormac> http://www.nationstates.net/images/flag ... 469778.png
[15:34] <Karpathos> Is it mandatory boss? I wanted to keep this nation a relative secret
[15:35] <Karpathos> Actually, never mind, it's out in the open anyway
01[15:38] <Cormac> Ah, if you really want to keep it secret it's not completely mandatory - just good to see our flags in the endo list.

From a query on 28 January:

[16:26] <Karpathos> Hey, do me a favor and corroborate I am "Lint Roller" here [Link to The Pacific Senate omitted]
01[16:28] <Cormac> Yup, no problem.

From #the_south_pacific on 01 April:

[23:03] <+Karpathos> lol
06[23:04] * +Karpathos is Lint Roller
[23:04] <+Karpathos> I would like to be appointed to something
[23:04] <+Karpathos> I have tons of feeder gov't experience

While your inability to spell your own name is impressive by any standard, Lint Roller = Karpathos.

[Lint Roller]

You've clearly got it out for this Korpathas fellow. You should look in to anger management man.

Also: It's not like...you know...irc logs could be faked. Jussayin.


Anyways, take your personal grudge elsewhere. I don't see what this has to do with the topic thread.

[Cerlon]

It's unfortunate that newer players like Cormac don't understand how duality works. It used to be a lot more common.

[Cormac Stark]

You've clearly got it out for this Korpathas fellow. You should look in to anger management man.

Also: It's not like...you know...irc logs could be faked. Jussayin.


Anyways, take your personal grudge elsewhere. I don't see what this has to do with the topic thread.

The last log was from a public IRC channel during an active conversation. There are witnesses who can corroborate the logs, who likely have their own logs. Alternatively, you could give it up and admit you're Karpathos because, well, you're Karpathos.

What it had to do with the topic was that you are in fact the commanding officer of a GCR military, so you are well aware that the kind of huge GCR military you made sound like a cakewalk is pretty unrealistic. It also bears some relevance to The Pacific's statement of neutrality earlier in the thread, contradicted by the active involvement of its army commander in supporting the coup.

[Ambroscus Koth]

It's unfortunate that newer players like Cormac don't understand how duality works. It used to be a lot more common.

[Lint Roller]

It's unfortunate that newer players like Cormac don't understand how duality works. It used to be a lot more common.

It's truly a lost art. The whippersnappers want everything their way. I think I'll call them the McDonald's Generation of NS. Heavens forbid someone decide to play the game the way they see fit.