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Postby Frattastan II » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:59 am

Middle Earth WFE wrote:We shall be the protectors of Middle Earth from all the evil forces that wish to endanger her.


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Postby Libetarian Republics » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:59 am

Frattastan II wrote:
Middle Earth WFE wrote:We shall be the protectors of Middle Earth from all the evil forces that wish to endanger her.


>:(


Are you referring to Sauron and Mordor?? :P

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The United Imperial Armed Forces
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Postby The United Imperial Armed Forces » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:56 am

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The United Imperial Armed Forces Press Release
Statement of the FRA-UIAF summit
14 September, 2013
A recent statement has been released by the Founderless Regions Alliance Arch-Chancellor Falconias about an FRA-UIAF conference. It should be noted that the United Imperial Armed Forces is a military entity consisting of The New Inquisition, The Land of Kings and Emperors and Albion. The UIAF is not a foreign affairs body and cannot make decisions on behalf of its member-regions. However, the military structure already in place provides a convenient framework for our regions in opening up talks with other entities and it is on this basis that we will agree to proceed with these negotiations. Any decisions and terms agreed upon by the body are subject to ratification by TNI-LKE-Albion governments according to their own procedures.

Accordingly, the UIAF will agree to attend the summit announced by Falconias. On the behalf of The Land of Kings and Emperors and The New Inquisition governments the UIAF will discuss the possibility of peace with the Founderless Regions Alliance. Parallel to that process, the UIAF will also engage in discussion regarding other questions of mutual concern identified in the the FRA Arch-Chancellor's speech, though any progress on cooperation is naturally intertwined with the discussions on the ongoing wars.

The summit shall be hosted on a forum created specifically for the purpose of these talks between the United Imperial Armed Forces and Founderless Regions Alliance. The UIAF will be represented by OnderKelkia, North East Somerset, Charles Cerebella and Christopher Bishop. In no way way is the outcome of the summit foreordained, and the negotiations may take a substantial period of time, but we are hopeful that the summit will be productive.
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Field Marshal Christopher Bishop

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Falconias
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Postby Falconias » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:15 am

Cheers, Christopher Bishop. :clap:
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Postby Charles Cerebella » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:43 am

Hear hear!
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Cormac A Stark
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:29 am

If I can be of any assistance as a neutral third party that neither of you trust much if at all has had a difficult but functional relationship with both parties at times, do let me know.

:P

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Postby Common-Sense Politics » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:45 pm

Cormac A Stark wrote:If I can be of any assistance as a neutral third party that neither of you trust much if at all has had a difficult but functional relationship with both parties at times, do let me know.

:P

Now that would be news.
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Postby Falconias » Sun Sep 15, 2013 2:28 pm

Cormac A Stark wrote:If I can be of any assistance as a neutral third party that neither of you trust much if at all has had a difficult but functional relationship with both parties at times, do let me know.

:P

Thanks Cormac, but our summit will be better off without NationStates' finest swiss cheese.
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Postby The United Imperial Armed Forces » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:06 pm

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The United Imperial Armed Forces Press Release
New Zealand Occupation
5 October, 2013

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On the major of September 28th 2013, The United Imperial Armed Forces (UIAF) deployed to capture New Zealand. At update UIAF fielded eight updaters with assistance by Ceseris, Europeian Republican Navy (ERN) and Royal Kantrias Army (RKA) units. This deployment occurred just the day after the Founderless Regions Alliance (FRA) and UIAF declared a ceasefire between the two for as long as the peace talks take place.

Within the first twenty-four hours, over twenty UIAF troops deployed in support of the delegate with additional troops from The West Pacific, Kantrias and Europeia. The first day’s count became around thirty-five endorsements and another fifteen during the next few days during the occupation. The final count was over fifty and New Zealand was held for over a week with no signs of liberation attempt in sight.

With no signs of resistance, the deployment was a huge succession across the board with large numbers of troops appearing from all deployed forces. We like to thank all those who were involved and we hope to continue working with everyone in the future.
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Field Marshal Christopher Bishop

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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:08 pm

Congratulations! Great to see the UIAF flourishing.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:13 am

Please burn New Zealand to the ground :lol:

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Postby Consular » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:43 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Please burn New Zealand to the ground :lol:

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>:(

I think that emoticon speaks for New Zealanders nicely. Don't make us cross that ditch.

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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:54 pm

Consular wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Please burn New Zealand to the ground :lol:

Cheers,
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>:(

I think that emoticon speaks for New Zealanders nicely. Don't make us cross that ditch.


Oh we'll cross that ditch for you bro

Underarm ;)

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Postby Feux » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:51 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
Consular wrote: >:(

I think that emoticon speaks for New Zealanders nicely. Don't make us cross that ditch.


Oh we'll cross that ditch for you bro

Underarm ;)

Um. MERICA!

Anyway, congrats on the raid.
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Postby Charax » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:40 am

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The United Imperial Armed Forces
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Postby The United Imperial Armed Forces » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:58 am

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The United Imperial Armed Forces Press Release
Occupation of Australia
27 October, 2013

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The region of Australia was a historical region with a sizeable population for most of its life. Since the time of its founder ceasing to exist, the former delegate [nation=short]King Rankmore[/nation] was sitting at eighteen endorsements. To overthrow the sitting delegate a sleeper nation was used to gather endorsements to shorten the endorsement level to take over. On October 23rd, 2013 at the major update The United Imperial Armed Forces (UIAF) with assistance from Europeia captured Australia.

Over the next twenty-four hours forces from The West Pacific, Europeia and half of UIAF troops deployed in assistance with the occupation, while half of UIAF troops were still deployed in The Creed. At the coming major there was only around a ten endorsement difference between the former delegate and the UIAF delegate. This allowed enough room for liberation and one did come. Leading the assault was Feux’s non World Assembly nation at the beginning of update, appearing fifty five minutes for liberation forces to correct their mistake. The liberation forces came a second time in droves, but all were promptly removed some of which didn’t even update.

We like to thank our friends from The West Pacific, Europeia, Kantrias and The Black Riders for providing reinforcements and updaters to make sure our control over the region was maintained. UIAF is also deployed in The Creed and Islamic Republics of Iran, providing four to five units in both regions in support of Kantrias and Osiris.

Better luck next time to the liberation forces of Unibot and friends!
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:10 pm

The United Imperial Armed Forces wrote:Leading the assault was Feux’s non World Assembly nation at the beginning of update, appearing fifty five minutes for liberation forces to correct their mistake.

:rofl:

Anyway, thank you to the UIAF for the support in Islamic Republics of Iran. It's much appreciated.

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Postby The United Imperial Armed Forces » Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:04 pm

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Withdrawal from UIAF-FRA Summit
27 November, 2013
On 12th September Falconias, in his inaugural address as FRA Arch Chancellor, announced the launch of an FRA-UIAF Summit intended to discuss how the UIAF and the FRA could work together to advance the defence of game-created regions. Falconias made this announcement following a preliminary discussion with one UIAF official in which the possibility of a summit was discussed but no agreement to a summit was reached and the subsequent announcement was made without consultation with any of the governments of the LKE, TNI and Albion or the Joint Commander of the UIAF. Nonetheless, despite our long-standing reservations about working with the FRA and the unprofessional manner in Falconias announced a summit, we accepted the FRA's invitation to negotiate in good faith.

When negotiations commenced, it soon became apparent that some in the FRA Delegation did not accept the fundamental premise of the summit proposed by Falconias. For instance an FRA representative questioned the idea that the FRA as an organisation should focus on GCR defence in the way making this treaty suggested. Falconias was clearly relatively isolated in his desire to negotiate with us. What is more, rather than leading the FRA towards his preferred path, Falconias expected the UIAF to persuade his hardline membership that they should support the diplomatic strategy which he had unilaterally decided upon, apparently with as little consultation with his own members as with our governments. We made clear that this was not a basis upon which we were prepared to proceed.

Since 9th October, the summit has grinded to a halt as we have been waiting for Falconias to produce a treaty draft, which he claimed, on that day, would be posted 'today or tomorrow' but has in fact yet to arrive. Since then, on 17th November, the new Arch Chancellor of the FRA, Flowering Staplers, informed us that they are going to discuss the summit with the FRA Regional Assembly before proceeding. The FRA, having invited the UIAF to a summit, now appears to be debating whether or not they were correct to have done so. Our delegation has been kept waiting for well over a month only for the FRA to refer the continuation of summit talks, which they publicly announced (without our knowledge, never mind permission), to their Regional Assembly: they should have done that before they invited us. Our time and effort has been wasted.

The FRA have announced our participation in a summit without our permission, failed to collectively support the premises they announced publicly and, having gone through all that, are finally dithering over whether to keep talking to us. This pattern of conduct is inconsistent and deeply discourteous. It is obvious that the FRA remains internally fragmented, that much of its membership is deeply insular and that its leaders are chronically unable to provide effective leadership. Little prospect of peace exists under these circumstances. In light of this, the Governments of The Land of Kings and Emperors, The New Inquisition and Albion are left with no reasonable choice but to withdraw from the summit.
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Postby Cormac Sloane » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:03 pm

I'm shocked by this outcome. Which is to say, I'm not at all surprised. :P

My hat's off to the UIAF for negotiating in good faith under such unprofessional circumstances though. I don't think anyone can blame you for finally withdrawing from the summit, though I suspect the FRA and its new Archchancellor will find a way.
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Postby Karputsk » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:40 pm

I suppose a UIAF Officer (who was present at the talks) and Head of State of one of the founding regions of the UIAF deploying troops in a FRA member region is "negotiating in good faith".

The UIAF isn't innocent in all of this, and neither is the FRA, but on balance I feel like any errors we made pale in comparison to the underhanded and petty maneuvering we saw in Soviet Union by the LKE.
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:26 pm

Karputsk wrote:I suppose a UIAF Officer (who was present at the talks) and Head of State of one of the founding regions of the UIAF deploying troops in a FRA member region is "negotiating in good faith".

The UIAF isn't innocent in all of this, and neither is the FRA, but on balance I feel like any errors we made pale in comparison to the underhanded and petty maneuvering we saw in Soviet Union by the LKE.

Did The LKEAF not withdraw from Soviet Union once it was agreed that the UIAF and FRA would not engage in hostilities with each other for the duration of the summit? And did the UIAF not continue to respect that agreement for the duration of the summit?

Expecting that the UIAF would unilaterally cease hostilities with the FRA without any agreement from the FRA to do the same, when it was the FRA that initiated the summit in the first place, is more evidence of the FRA's unprofessional behavior here -- not less. It was FRA actions that provoked declarations of war from The New Inquisition and The Land of Kings and Emperors in the first place and it was the FRA that initiated this summit. You should have proposed a ceasefire immediately upon opening the summit; expecting the UIAF to impose a ceasefire on itself without any expectation the FRA would do the same is diplomatically absurd. But then, diplomatically absurd describes the FRA and so-called defender organizations in general rather well.
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Postby Guy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:09 pm

The United Imperial Armed Forces wrote:The FRA have announced our participation in a summit without our permission
Wait, you mean your participation which you announced yourself just a handful of posts above yours? :P

The United Imperial Armed Forces wrote:The FRA, having invited the UIAF to a summit, now appears to be debating whether or not they were correct to have done so.

Actually, I wouldn't label it a debate :p We are all pretty much in unanimity that the summit was one of the stupidest ideas ever.

The summit as a whole was based on a falsely-held underlying assumption - that the FRA has something to negotiate over. We don't. It's as simple as that, really. Neither do we have anything to apologise for, and we certainly don't need to accept a long list of demands from UIAF to atone for our nonexistent past transgressions.

I think one line from your whole statement encapsulates this summit and the stupidity of your untenable position.
For instance an FRA representative questioned the idea that the FRA as an organisation should focus on GCR defence in the way making this treaty suggested.

What you guys wanted was the FRA to cease being what makes it so great - an Alliance simply concerned with the welfare of founderless regions - and instead become some distorted version of its past-self, that you could utilise for your own advantage.

Yeah, no.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:17 pm

We all knew that this wasn't going to work, so why are we choosing to make a big stink about it? If the UIAF didn't withdraw now, the FRA were likely going to do so soon anyways.
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Postby Anur-Sanur » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:41 pm

One has to wonder why the most lackluster delegate in Realms history is handling the messaging on this.

As I recall, you were thrown out of TITO while supervising over an unprecedented decline in the RRA's capabilities. And let us not forget how you cozied up to Imperialist interests in a revealing attempt to try and steal the delegacy from Sedgistan. Or had your friend the Mediocre already put a knife in his friends' backs at that point? An example for you to follow indeed, when you became one of the first leakers to compromise the security of the UDL.

Perhaps given their recent announcement regarding new leadership, the FRA would do well to muzzle the unsanctioned, impudent attestations of their resident old fossils.

I for one, would be much obliged if you would roll over and play dead, Just Guy.

Such a pity, to hear of new leadership in the organization only to have your duplicitous face surface once more.
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Postby Cormac A Stark » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:44 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:We all knew that this wasn't going to work, so why are we choosing to make a big stink about it? If the UIAF didn't withdraw now, the FRA were likely going to do so soon anyways.

I think the reason a stink is being made is because the FRA looks less consistent and diplomatic than me, and that's hard to do -- particularly for an entire organization. Consider the fact that this was a major part of Falconias' agenda and that he was still Archchancellor until very recently, but now the FRA Vice Chancellor is calling this idea that was central to the immediately former Archchancellor's agenda "stupid." It sends the message that one has no idea what one is going to get from the FRA from one Archchancellor to the next. That shouldn't just be a problem for the FRA's enemies -- in fact, for me at least it's pretty hilarious -- it should send a clear message to friends and allies of the FRA that what they see and hear from one Archchancellor may be completely repudiated by the next administration.

It's fairly breathtaking to me that the Vice Chancellor is calling the former Archchancellor's idea "one of the stupidest ideas ever" and representing this as unanimous FRA opinion. I'm not at all surprised that the FRA is walking back the importance of the summit and trying to blame the UIAF for its failure, but the diplomatic ineptitude with which they're doing it is surprising. The FRA executive looks completely unreliable at this moment and I can't imagine that this unreliability is instilling any faith in the FRA's ability or willingness to effectively defend founderless regions of any kind, let alone Feeders and Sinkers. We don't know what their commitments will be when the next Archchancellor is elected.
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