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TheKeyToJoy
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby TheKeyToJoy » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:01 pm

Now can you do a paragraph history of Warzone Trinidad? Pretty please.
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MANS0N
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Anarchy

Postby MANS0N » Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:17 pm

TheKeyToJoy wrote:Now can you do a paragraph history of Warzone Trinidad? Pretty please.

If you consider two sentences a paragraph, sure.

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One Small Island
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Founded: Aug 30, 2019
Father Knows Best State

Postby One Small Island » Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:40 am

MANS0N wrote:
TheKeyToJoy wrote:Now can you do a paragraph history of Warzone Trinidad? Pretty please.

If you consider two sentences a paragraph, sure.

Don't oversell it, it's a single sentence.
"Warzone Trinidad was founded, after minimal shenanigans the Warzone Trinidad Corporation was formed."
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Jar Wattinree
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Jar Wattinree » Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:25 am

One Small Island wrote:
MANS0N wrote:If you consider two sentences a paragraph, sure.

Don't oversell it, it's a single sentence.
"Warzone Trinidad was founded, after minimal shenanigans the Warzone Trinidad Corporation was formed."

Replace that comma with a semicolon.
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The Ice States
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Founded: Jun 23, 2022
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby The Ice States » Thu May 04, 2023 7:13 pm

MANS0N wrote:...Perhaps, from the way their brain operates, they will never be a good regionbuilder or R/Der, and in fact the World Assembly is much more interesting. Or it could be that those edgy and awkward mannerisms picked up from their favorite HOI4 YouTuber are holding them back socially, which carries over politically. This is because those who are socially good are politically good, or those who are socially bad hide it and focus on being politically good. Those who are politically bad are either not socially present or socially bad...

Definitely an interesting essay, although I'm not sure if I agree with this. The World Assembly does have a rather political atmosphere; in the GA, we routinely legislate on controversial matters such as lifting tariffs and free trade, the military status of the World Assembly, the merits (or lack thereof) in drug criminalisation, and other like topics; and any outcome of legislation in such matters is necessarily the result of politicking on both sides. Likewise, we see the routine proposal of repeals which may or may not be ideologically-charged, and can be subject to strong opposition from political opponents of the arguments, or the authors of the resolutions targeted for repeal. In the SC, we also see proposals routinely proposed to further political aims, such as the repeals of various raider condemnations or offensive liberations (and now injunctions).

I don't think it's particularly possible to survive in such a political environment without having at least some skill in politics. Players who are unskilled in politics or social skills, too, either learn from their mistakes, eg Sciongrad, or find themselves ostracised, eg Bitely, Old Hope, Excidium Planetis, Ufoc/Wayneactia, Auralia, and so on. I do think that surviving in an environment such as GP tends to be harder for politically inept players than in an environment such as the WA (as someone who certainly used to fit into that category!) but political and social competence is still largely required to survive in the World Assembly, just like it does in GP.
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Minskiev
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Minskiev » Fri May 05, 2023 7:07 pm

The Ice States wrote:
MANS0N wrote:...Perhaps, from the way their brain operates, they will never be a good regionbuilder or R/Der, and in fact the World Assembly is much more interesting. Or it could be that those edgy and awkward mannerisms picked up from their favorite HOI4 YouTuber are holding them back socially, which carries over politically. This is because those who are socially good are politically good, or those who are socially bad hide it and focus on being politically good. Those who are politically bad are either not socially present or socially bad...

Definitely an interesting essay, although I'm not sure if I agree with this. The World Assembly does have a rather political atmosphere; in the GA, we routinely legislate on controversial matters such as lifting tariffs and free trade, the military status of the World Assembly, the merits (or lack thereof) in drug criminalisation, and other like topics; and any outcome of legislation in such matters is necessarily the result of politicking on both sides. Likewise, we see the routine proposal of repeals which may or may not be ideologically-charged, and can be subject to strong opposition from political opponents of the arguments, or the authors of the resolutions targeted for repeal. In the SC, we also see proposals routinely proposed to further political aims, such as the repeals of various raider condemnations or offensive liberations (and now injunctions).

I don't think it's particularly possible to survive in such a political environment without having at least some skill in politics. Players who are unskilled in politics or social skills, too, either learn from their mistakes, eg Sciongrad, or find themselves ostracised, eg Bitely, Old Hope, Excidium Planetis, Ufoc/Wayneactia, Auralia, and so on. I do think that surviving in an environment such as GP tends to be harder for politically inept players than in an environment such as the WA (as someone who certainly used to fit into that category!) but political and social competence is still largely required to survive in the World Assembly, just like it does in GP.

What successful SCer is not a GPer?

I’ll grant you the point about the GA, because communicating your point across the forums of different regions is a political skill. That being said, I don’t think my essay necessarily disagrees with that, it just recognizes that GP necessitates political and social skills to a greater extent than the GA.
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The Ice States
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby The Ice States » Fri May 05, 2023 7:15 pm

Minskiev wrote:
The Ice States wrote:Definitely an interesting essay, although I'm not sure if I agree with this. The World Assembly does have a rather political atmosphere; in the GA, we routinely legislate on controversial matters such as lifting tariffs and free trade, the military status of the World Assembly, the merits (or lack thereof) in drug criminalisation, and other like topics; and any outcome of legislation in such matters is necessarily the result of politicking on both sides. Likewise, we see the routine proposal of repeals which may or may not be ideologically-charged, and can be subject to strong opposition from political opponents of the arguments, or the authors of the resolutions targeted for repeal. In the SC, we also see proposals routinely proposed to further political aims, such as the repeals of various raider condemnations or offensive liberations (and now injunctions).

I don't think it's particularly possible to survive in such a political environment without having at least some skill in politics. Players who are unskilled in politics or social skills, too, either learn from their mistakes, eg Sciongrad, or find themselves ostracised, eg Bitely, Old Hope, Excidium Planetis, Ufoc/Wayneactia, Auralia, and so on. I do think that surviving in an environment such as GP tends to be harder for politically inept players than in an environment such as the WA (as someone who certainly used to fit into that category!) but political and social competence is still largely required to survive in the World Assembly, just like it does in GP.

What successful SCer is not a GPer?

I’ll grant you the point about the GA, because communicating your point across the forums of different regions is a political skill. That being said, I don’t think my essay necessarily disagrees with that, it just recognizes that GP necessitates political and social skills to a greater extent than the GA.

Regarding the SC, this largely proves my point; you do have to be politically skilled to succeed in either the SC or the GA. That said, I do also agree that GP tends to require more political skill; although both the GA and GP communities tend to be political in their own ways.
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All Tears Must Fall
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Founded: Jun 29, 2021
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby All Tears Must Fall » Fri May 05, 2023 8:07 pm

The Ice States wrote:
Minskiev wrote:What successful SCer is not a GPer?

I’ll grant you the point about the GA, because communicating your point across the forums of different regions is a political skill. That being said, I don’t think my essay necessarily disagrees with that, it just recognizes that GP necessitates political and social skills to a greater extent than the GA.

Regarding the SC, this largely proves my point; you do have to be politically skilled to succeed in either the SC or the GA. That said, I do also agree that GP tends to require more political skill; although both the GA and GP communities tend to be political in their own ways.

Rather obviously I think there are two separate definitions of what politics and being politically skilled are here? Politics in the GA, to my admittedly limited understanding, is more about the in-character interactions based on policies proposed and given stances; it's social but limited to the topics at hand and asserted opinions distinctly to some degree separated from the actual player. The SC's politics is less about the discussion that occurs, and moreso navigating the existing political landscape; the nature of the debates in the SC are far different than those within the GA, and the way one navigates a proposal to passage is contingent on actors with entirely different interests. I could be wrong as I'm in no way involved in the GA, but it's still pretty clear to me that arguing the two are reliant on the same "political skills" isn't really possible considering what you're thinking of in terms of "politics" is definitely different by chamber.
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TheKeyToJoy
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby TheKeyToJoy » Sun May 07, 2023 3:21 pm

One Small Island wrote:
MANS0N wrote:If you consider two sentences a paragraph, sure.

Don't oversell it, it's a single sentence.
"Warzone Trinidad was founded, after minimal shenanigans the Warzone Trinidad Corporation was formed."

Thank you.
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Lukeona
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Founded: Oct 16, 2023
Democratic Socialists

Postby Lukeona » Tue Feb 27, 2024 7:26 am

Can you include an entertainment section?

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Bormiar
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Founded: Mar 25, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Bormiar » Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:17 pm

Lukeona wrote:Can you include an entertainment section?

Hopefully everything we write is entertainment.

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Lukeona
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Founded: Oct 16, 2023
Democratic Socialists

Postby Lukeona » Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:40 am

Bormiar wrote:
Lukeona wrote:Can you include an entertainment section?

Hopefully everything we write is entertainment.

I mean talking about TV, Film, Gaming, Books, You Name It!

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