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by TheKeyToJoy » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:01 pm
by One Small Island » Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:40 am
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by The Ice States » Thu May 04, 2023 7:13 pm
MANS0N wrote:...Perhaps, from the way their brain operates, they will never be a good regionbuilder or R/Der, and in fact the World Assembly is much more interesting. Or it could be that those edgy and awkward mannerisms picked up from their favorite HOI4 YouTuber are holding them back socially, which carries over politically. This is because those who are socially good are politically good, or those who are socially bad hide it and focus on being politically good. Those who are politically bad are either not socially present or socially bad...
by Minskiev » Fri May 05, 2023 7:07 pm
The Ice States wrote:MANS0N wrote:...Perhaps, from the way their brain operates, they will never be a good regionbuilder or R/Der, and in fact the World Assembly is much more interesting. Or it could be that those edgy and awkward mannerisms picked up from their favorite HOI4 YouTuber are holding them back socially, which carries over politically. This is because those who are socially good are politically good, or those who are socially bad hide it and focus on being politically good. Those who are politically bad are either not socially present or socially bad...
Definitely an interesting essay, although I'm not sure if I agree with this. The World Assembly does have a rather political atmosphere; in the GA, we routinely legislate on controversial matters such as lifting tariffs and free trade, the military status of the World Assembly, the merits (or lack thereof) in drug criminalisation, and other like topics; and any outcome of legislation in such matters is necessarily the result of politicking on both sides. Likewise, we see the routine proposal of repeals which may or may not be ideologically-charged, and can be subject to strong opposition from political opponents of the arguments, or the authors of the resolutions targeted for repeal. In the SC, we also see proposals routinely proposed to further political aims, such as the repeals of various raider condemnations or offensive liberations (and now injunctions).
I don't think it's particularly possible to survive in such a political environment without having at least some skill in politics. Players who are unskilled in politics or social skills, too, either learn from their mistakes, eg Sciongrad, or find themselves ostracised, eg Bitely, Old Hope, Excidium Planetis, Ufoc/Wayneactia, Auralia, and so on. I do think that surviving in an environment such as GP tends to be harder for politically inept players than in an environment such as the WA (as someone who certainly used to fit into that category!) but political and social competence is still largely required to survive in the World Assembly, just like it does in GP.
by The Ice States » Fri May 05, 2023 7:15 pm
Minskiev wrote:The Ice States wrote:Definitely an interesting essay, although I'm not sure if I agree with this. The World Assembly does have a rather political atmosphere; in the GA, we routinely legislate on controversial matters such as lifting tariffs and free trade, the military status of the World Assembly, the merits (or lack thereof) in drug criminalisation, and other like topics; and any outcome of legislation in such matters is necessarily the result of politicking on both sides. Likewise, we see the routine proposal of repeals which may or may not be ideologically-charged, and can be subject to strong opposition from political opponents of the arguments, or the authors of the resolutions targeted for repeal. In the SC, we also see proposals routinely proposed to further political aims, such as the repeals of various raider condemnations or offensive liberations (and now injunctions).
I don't think it's particularly possible to survive in such a political environment without having at least some skill in politics. Players who are unskilled in politics or social skills, too, either learn from their mistakes, eg Sciongrad, or find themselves ostracised, eg Bitely, Old Hope, Excidium Planetis, Ufoc/Wayneactia, Auralia, and so on. I do think that surviving in an environment such as GP tends to be harder for politically inept players than in an environment such as the WA (as someone who certainly used to fit into that category!) but political and social competence is still largely required to survive in the World Assembly, just like it does in GP.
What successful SCer is not a GPer?
I’ll grant you the point about the GA, because communicating your point across the forums of different regions is a political skill. That being said, I don’t think my essay necessarily disagrees with that, it just recognizes that GP necessitates political and social skills to a greater extent than the GA.
by All Tears Must Fall » Fri May 05, 2023 8:07 pm
The Ice States wrote:Minskiev wrote:What successful SCer is not a GPer?
I’ll grant you the point about the GA, because communicating your point across the forums of different regions is a political skill. That being said, I don’t think my essay necessarily disagrees with that, it just recognizes that GP necessitates political and social skills to a greater extent than the GA.
Regarding the SC, this largely proves my point; you do have to be politically skilled to succeed in either the SC or the GA. That said, I do also agree that GP tends to require more political skill; although both the GA and GP communities tend to be political in their own ways.
by TheKeyToJoy » Sun May 07, 2023 3:21 pm
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