The Rejected Times

[Queen Yuno]

The drama/confusion with Neq is over. There was a misunderstanding between TRR Delegate Zaolat and Neq, but after Neq formed a discussion with the delegate and showed his time stamps, we figured out that there was zero negative intent (like 99% sure,) just coincidences that made him look bad. So all of TRR's candidates are wonderful and Neq is fine.

I mean, it's fine for Zaolat to kiss and make up with Neq and everyone else now, because the damage to Neq's reputation has now been done. As Guy made clear on TRR's forum earlier, Neq has gone from being the likely front runner to being "unsatisfactory" as a result of the tempest in a teapot Zaolat created. What I'm saying is that the controversy wasn't an accident, but was a deliberate smear campaign designed to pave the way for Souls' election. Folks may dismiss that as a ridiculous conspiracy theory, but it's the kind of maneuvering that used to go on in Osiris all the time, and both Zaolat and I are familiar with how those kind of tactics work. I have used them in the past, and he's using them right now. I could instantly recognize those tactics for what they were. Others should be able to as well, and it speaks poorly of gameplay and its future that newer players are so gullible and easily manipulated.

I don't think that's true, regardless I'm going to be voting for Neq as a TRR citizen instead of Souls, since I feel sad/sorry that he went through all that for no reason because some other noob friend of his made an accident. And no, it's not really a tactic.... Zaolat's been way too messy/stressed. This isn't a "political move" because if so it's a shit move. He would not dump the very players he spent the past 98 days training and Zaolat is TRR-loyal for the past year. That just makes no sense. Anyway, good luck.

[Glacikaldr]

I've been getting training?

It's hard to deny that the damage has already been done.

All I'm hoping for is that, in the future, if accusations such as these occur again, people can be a little more wary so the damage is not as severe. It's just the difference between people not really knowing me that well and now knowing what I stand for a little better.

I won't be voting for Souls within my top 5 candidates (no offence Souls), but if we see support for Souls across gameplay-lines I'd like to at least request that people respect TRR's autonomy. Of course, if our Constitution is broken down as a result, please save the legitimate government as per our many treaties.

Other than regions not following our treaties with them, I don't see how an election-gone-wrong could become anything more than a footnote requiring some minor piling.

[Consular]

Meh I'm 100% certain we could outpile Souls if he steps out of line anyway.

[Lord Dominator]

Meh I'm 100% certain we could outpile Souls if he steps out of line anyway.

Pretty sure you could as well

[Wabbitslayah]

Meh I'm 100% certain we could outpile Souls if he steps out of line anyway.

Easily. The risk factor of succeeding in anything but tagging the region and bouncing afterwards is too much. There's no point in dealing with a losing battle to attrition at best! There's also no point in trying to drastically change the region to anti-defender since it would be too much a headace to even succeed.

Hell, trying to get two extra officers (6 total) was a freaking headache and that never came to fruition despite multiple attempts. Hardly anything nefarious about that alone, so I can't see trying anything to work out.

Another note unrelated to the above:

Why do people keep thinking I'm a raider? Philosophically raiderist or whatever sure, after all I'm not really a fan of defender morals. I'm an NPO stooge. Given a leave of absence and freedom to do as I wish in TRR. Heck, I went back to defending for a brief time before that as can be confirmed by Fratt.

Believe the kool aid you been drinking Cormac and Tim, you're both still wrong.

[Glacikaldr]

The only thing trying to pass something in TRR achieves is a ton of activity.

While other regions get things passed with minimal replies, TRR gets debates going on for 12 pages about the most minute details of a proposal. :' )

Hey, at least it boosts our activity.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Meh I'm 100% certain we could outpile Souls if he steps out of line anyway.

He's not going to coup. He's going to do things like wreck TRR's existing relations, nudge it closer to Balder and the IJCC regions, etc., all things he can do without the Assembly and without doing anything so radical that it would warrant an immediate challenge. Meanwhile, over time so as not to arouse suspicion, there will be a slow trickle of new raiders into TRR until suddenly they control the Assembly. Then they won't need to coup. Mark my words, it will happen.

[Malphe]

Meh I'm 100% certain we could outpile Souls if he steps out of line anyway.

He's not going to coup. He's going to do things like wreck TRR's existing relations, nudge it closer to Balder and the IJCC regions, etc., all things he can do without the Assembly and without doing anything so radical that it would warrant an immediate challenge. Meanwhile, over time so as not to arouse suspicion, there will be a slow trickle of new raiders into TRR until suddenly they control the Assembly. Then they won't need to coup. Mark my words, it will happen.

Well now that you've kicked up such a stink about it he's going to have more eyes on him, if anything.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Well now that you've kicked up such a stink about it he's going to have more eyes on him, if anything.

Yeah, okay. I think people are being way too casual about this due to TRR's lack of an Eject button, without any appreciation for how much damage can be done by other means. He's not going to have to do anything outlandish and crazy to wreck TRR's relations with other regions, he's just going to have to be himself. That has always been enough to damage relations between TBH and other regions, so it should be plenty when he's running a GCR.

In any event, this is really up to the citizens of TRR. If they really want to send a message to their allies that they value their alliances so little that they're going to elect a Delegate hostile to all of them, that's their prerogative. If they want to see their longtime alliance with TSP thrown in the trash overnight, that's up to them. If they want to put themselves on the slow path to their sovereignty being undermined and their interests being subjected to the interests of userite raider and imperialist regions, unfortunately, they can. Despite proposing military action in the heat of the moment, because I don't want to see another GCR subverted by userites, that isn't appropriate or realistic unless Souls coups. He won't coup, because he can accomplish his userite agenda more easily without a coup. So this really is up to the citizens of TRR, and if they are ridiculous enough to elect Souls, maybe they deserve what they get. What's really unfortunate is that their friends and allies certainly don't deserve it, and I'd personally like to thank citizens of TRR in advance for the impending damage to relations with Lazarus and Osiris if Souls is elected. I really appreciate the consideration you're all showing for friendly and allied regions.

[Glacikaldr]

Well now that you've kicked up such a stink about it he's going to have more eyes on him, if anything.

Yeah, okay. I think people are being way too casual about this due to TRR's lack of an Eject button, without any appreciation for how much damage can be done by other means. He's not going to have to do anything outlandish and crazy to wreck TRR's relations with other regions, he's just going to have to be himself. That has always been enough to damage relations between TBH and other regions, so it should be plenty when he's running a GCR.

In any event, this is really up to the citizens of TRR. If they really want to send a message to their allies that they value their alliances so little that they're going to elect a Delegate hostile to all of them, that's their prerogative. If they want to see their longtime alliance with TSP thrown in the trash overnight, that's up to them. If they want to put themselves on the slow path to their sovereignty being undermined and their interests being subjected to the interests of userite raider and imperialist regions, unfortunately, they can. Despite proposing military action in the heat of the moment, because I don't want to see another GCR subverted by userites, that isn't appropriate or realistic unless Souls coups. He won't coup, because he can accomplish his userite agenda more easily without a coup. So this really is up to the citizens of TRR, and if they are ridiculous enough to elect Souls, maybe they deserve what they get. What's really unfortunate is that their friends and allies certainly don't deserve it, and I'd personally like to thank citizens of TRR in advance for the impending damage to relations with Lazarus and Osiris if Souls is elected. I really appreciate the consideration you're all showing for friendly and allied regions.

I mean, that along with other reasons is why a lot of people are currently not considering voting Souls. But we won't like... publicly execute him for running... that goes against every single one of the values we hold dear.

[Cormactopia Prime]

I mean, that along with other reasons is why a lot of people are currently not considering voting Souls. But we won't like... publicly execute him for running... that goes against every single one of the values we hold dear.

Who asked you to do anything about him running? Let's not construct straw men now.

All I've said is that he shouldn't be elected Delegate. If you're saying he's not going to be, great, but I'm not going to believe that until the votes are tallied and he has lost. Because after Zaolat's smear campaign against the other candidates, I think the election is going to mostly come down to a contest between Souls and Wop, with a few votes cast for CrazyGirl as always, and the other candidates receiving barely any votes. We'll see if I'm right.

[Catalyse]

Sorry, Wop's candidacy is about as credible as Tupe's, so I expect we're trully doomed then.

[Old Hope]

I mean, that along with other reasons is why a lot of people are currently not considering voting Souls. But we won't like... publicly execute him for running... that goes against every single one of the values we hold dear.

Who asked you to do anything about him running? Let's not construct straw men now.

All I've said is that he shouldn't be elected Delegate. If you're saying he's not going to be, great, but I'm not going to believe that until the votes are tallied and he has lost. Because after Zaolat's smear campaign against the other candidates, I think the election is going to mostly come down to a contest between Souls and Wop, with a few votes cast for CrazyGirl as always, and the other candidates receiving barely any votes. We'll see if I'm right.

Interesting. I would expect CG having a good chance of winning.

[Wabbitslayah]

I mean, that along with other reasons is why a lot of people are currently not considering voting Souls. But we won't like... publicly execute him for running... that goes against every single one of the values we hold dear.

Who asked you to do anything about him running? Let's not construct straw men now.

All I've said is that he shouldn't be elected Delegate. If you're saying he's not going to be, great, but I'm not going to believe that until the votes are tallied and he has lost. Because after Zaolat's smear campaign against the other candidates, I think the election is going to mostly come down to a contest between Souls and Wop, with a few votes cast for CrazyGirl as always, and the other candidates receiving barely any votes. We'll see if I'm right.

You're literally replying to Neq the supposed guy I supposedly smear campaigned. If you knew anything instead of making shit up to rail on Souls, you'd know it was a bunch of misunderstandings on mine and Neq's parts. Additionally knee jerk overreactions. Which you have a habit of doing and are currently doing now. At least I realized and admitted I overreacted to something that Neq hadn't done.

Keep drinking the kool aid.

[Unibot III]

Sorry, Wop's candidacy is about as credible as Tupe's, so I expect we're trully doomed then.

Tupe, the Dark Horse Candidate.

[The Church of Satan]

He's not going to coup. He's going to do things like wreck TRR's existing relations, nudge it closer to Balder and the IJCC regions, etc., all

Balder doesn't want anything to do with us. Word has it that it's because Onder is still a conspiracy nut about TRR. You know, that TRR is supposedly some big, bad fenda boogeyman out to get any region he's involved in. That's popular speculation anyways. I've actually wanted to fix things with Balder ever since that TRT article set them off and they banned TRR en masse.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

He's not going to coup. He's going to do things like wreck TRR's existing relations, nudge it closer to Balder and the IJCC regions, etc., all

Balder doesn't want anything to do with us. Word has it that it's because Onder is still a conspiracy nut about TRR. You know, that TRR is supposedly some big, bad fenda boogeyman out to get any region he's involved in. That's popular speculation anyways. I've actually wanted to fix things with Balder ever since that TRT article set them off and they banned TRR en masse.

RIP your candidacy, you raider imperialist sympathizer you.

[The Church of Satan]

I can't remember the last time I saw a region refer to itself as imperialist. What's it been...2 years? Maybe 3?

[Glacikaldr]

You know, topic(s) aside, this is a great way of getting activity and publicity for the Times.

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Yet, I think Cormac has convinced as many people as he's going to by now though. Could we just calm down for a bit with this topic seeing how most of the people viewing this can only wait and see what the election result will be?

For now, let's maybe try to redirect our attention to Rach and Alk's forbidden love life?

[Miss Bad Life Choices]

For now, let's maybe try to redirect our attention to Rach and Alk's forbidden love life?

>_>

Neq plz

[Eriadni]

>_>

Neq plz

oof

[Jar Wattinree]

For now, let's maybe try to redirect our attention to Rach and Alk's forbidden love life?

>_>

Neq plz

So, any comments on this spicy new development?

[Miss Bad Life Choices]

>_>

Neq plz

So, any comments on this spicy new development?

Depends on what the right and wrong answer would be

[Felt Karpit]

For now, let's maybe try to redirect our attention to Rach and Alk's forbidden love life?

Why does it have to be forbidden? It sad to see two communities try to tear people apart. I wish Ratch and defender guy the best.

[Alkasia]

Ratch

Yes.