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Belschaft
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Postby Belschaft » Wed May 20, 2015 2:15 am

The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:And I'm taking my own advice, because I'm back in Lazarus, ready to commit everything I can to the region and its people.

That is, if they accept me.


Unibot should really do his fact checking before publishing, because if he had he'd know that Ikania is PNG in Lazarus due to two past attempts to organize a coup. He most certainly is not back in Lazarus.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Wed May 20, 2015 2:27 am

The story was written days ago, before that decision was made Bel. :P
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Postby Belschaft » Wed May 20, 2015 3:54 am

The Church of Satan wrote:The story was written days ago, before that decision was made Bel. :P

I assumed so; that's why I said publishing. Fact checking has to be re-done before you publish if there's any chance you can be overtaken by events, otherwise you can end up looking like an idiot.
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Postby Unibot III » Wed May 20, 2015 4:14 am

The article wasn't written days ago (well, it was written weeks ago, then it was rewritten to account for changing events in TWP - shocker, Belschaft's complaints are unfounded), it was polished and rewritten hours ago - Ikania passed the final copy to us at 7 PM EST. Presumably, he thinks he still might return to Lazarus. *shrugs*.

You can cut the 'uggh no factchacking' routine now. Ikania is allowed to have an opinion.

Only the Rejected Times could momentarily make Belschaft care about the truth - that could be our new motto. :geek:

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A nomination is an appointment. It's the act of 'designating someone for an office or position'. Appointments often still need to be independently confirmed. I'll change 'appointment' to 'nominated' however to clarify that, thanks.

Also, we appreciate the praise. Our staffers worked hard on this edition, I was especially excited about the UGR interview and Dr George's opinion article caught me off guard - it's a fun read.
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Postby Shaderette » Wed May 20, 2015 4:34 am

Um, you guys do know Bob and Halc were declared DOS, and this is really unessicary? They can't come even if they wanted to. @PNG in Osiris
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Postby Ikania » Wed May 20, 2015 4:35 am

Belschaft wrote:
The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:And I'm taking my own advice, because I'm back in Lazarus, ready to commit everything I can to the region and its people.

That is, if they accept me.


Unibot should really do his fact checking before publishing, because if he had he'd know that Ikania is PNG in Lazarus due to two past attempts to organize a coup. He most certainly is not back in Lazarus.

Untrue. I'm not banned, and though I have been denied a citizenship by the Delegate, I can still make a case to the legislature. The Constitution makes me immune to those charges.
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Postby Belschaft » Wed May 20, 2015 4:47 am

Ikania wrote:
Belschaft wrote:
Unibot should really do his fact checking before publishing, because if he had he'd know that Ikania is PNG in Lazarus due to two past attempts to organize a coup. He most certainly is not back in Lazarus.

Untrue. I'm not banned, and though I have been denied a citizenship by the Delegate, I can still make a case to the legislature. The Constitution makes me immune to those charges.

How so? I'm interested in your legal theory for that from a judicial point of view.
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Postby Consular » Wed May 20, 2015 5:04 am

Kazmr wrote:Also, Ike's article was... bad. I'm sorry, but even the detractors of TRT have to admit that it has good prose. That article really did not.


^

I'm not even entirely sure what he was trying to say...

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Postby Tim Stark » Wed May 20, 2015 6:10 am

Shaderette wrote:Um, you guys do know Bob and Halc were declared DOS, and this is really unessicary? They can't come even if they wanted to. @PNG in Osiris

It was put in place essentially the second any sort of logs came out, certainly before we became aware that the Administrative team was planning to take any further action on the matter.

Not sure how this was news though, the declaration is at least two to three weeks old by now, the article seems to almost imply this is a recent development. It's certainly not :P
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Postby Shaderette » Wed May 20, 2015 6:59 am

Tim Stark wrote:
Shaderette wrote:Um, you guys do know Bob and Halc were declared DOS, and this is really unessicary? They can't come even if they wanted to. @PNG in Osiris

It was put in place essentially the second any sort of logs came out, certainly before we became aware that the Administrative team was planning to take any further action on the matter.

Not sure how this was news though, the declaration is at least two to three weeks old by now, the article seems to almost imply this is a recent development. It's certainly not :P

Ah that makes sense.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Wed May 20, 2015 7:28 am

Hey, with the Easter Egg guide, now I know why my economy plummeted to a lowly 80 ;)
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Postby Onderkelkia » Wed May 20, 2015 7:46 am

Tim Stark wrote:Not sure how this was news though, the declaration is at least two to three weeks old by now, the article seems to almost imply this is a recent development. It's certainly not :P

Indeed, the article announces that Osiris "has now" done something which it actually did before the announcement of Bob Moran's activities on 27th April.

Alas, TRR Times is determined to make as many misleading references to the recruitment scandal as possible.

The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:Indeed, the Wolves were joined in the raid by old friends, DEN and the Land of Kings and Emperors, both recovering internally from the recent recruitment scandal which had rocked them last month, in addition to The Black Hawks, Europeia, Balder, and The East Pacific. When you bear in mind that the Lone Wolves United too has been rehabilitating its image since 2011 when a ‘raider unity’ fiasco saw their ‘Anarchy’ raid supported by the Greater German Reich… this entire operation looked more and more like an overcooked reunion tour of scruffy, jet-legged rockers with their ankle monitors in tow.

The operation in Eternal Scholars had nothing to do with either the aftermath of the recent recruitment scandal or LWU's 2011 Anarchy invasion.

For TRR Times to draw such crude links between these three unrelated events only confirms its status as a low-grade propaganda rag.

The LKE received an aid request from LWU. We had no involvement in the initial operation. Like The East Pacific, Europeia, Balder, The Black Hawks and DEN (although I don't know if any of them had any involvement in the initial raid), we responded to that request for reinforcements by providing support.

LWU notified the LKE several hours before the update that it was intending to withdraw at that point. The 'liberation' therefore occurred after the raid.
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Postby The Church of Satan » Wed May 20, 2015 10:01 am

Keep hating Onder! It makes us STRONGER! TRT smash!

And as far as Tim's comments, he's right. I wil admit that this story was a rush job I typed up on my iPod literally an hour before this issue was originally supposed to be published. If I had known I would have had another 24 hours the story would be significantly better. However that isn't to say I regret getting this story out in it's present form.
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Postby Ikania » Wed May 20, 2015 12:03 pm

I'll tell the truth: I didn't want to publish the article in the first place. I wrote it a few months ago and handed it to Unibot, but then decided I didn't want to publish it. He asked if TRT could include it in this most recent edition, so I made a few edits to keep it up to date and handed it in. But now that it's out, I see no reason not to defend it. There's a point in there, even if you lost it among my ramblings.
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Postby Ikania » Wed May 20, 2015 12:31 pm

That Called the Vlagh wrote:
The new constitution makes Lazarus as far as I can see, the first Game-Created Region to permit residents to become citizens without having first gone through a ‘citizenship application’ process on the forum

The West Pacific has maintained an 'open door' policy on citizenship for quite a while now. A nation simply has to express a desire to take part to be a part of the offsite government.

Until they're needlessly banned, of course.
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Postby Wickedly evil people » Wed May 20, 2015 12:38 pm

you may wish to consider your source before using the word needlessly
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Re: The Rejected Times: Issue XXXVIII Out! (UGR Interview!)

Postby Glen-Rhodes » Wed May 20, 2015 12:50 pm

Hope you're all prepared to hear my voice.

I'll be hosting a panel. Just me. It's all me. I'll be representing all the views of myself. For 90 minutes every Thursday.

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Postby Unibot III » Wed May 20, 2015 5:44 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Hope you're all prepared to hear my voice.

I'll be hosting a panel. Just me. It's all me. I'll be representing all the views of myself. For 90 minutes every Thursday.


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Postby Ainocra » Wed May 20, 2015 10:32 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Hope you're all prepared to hear my voice.

I'll be hosting a panel. Just me. It's all me. I'll be representing all the views of myself. For 90 minutes every Thursday.


*snickers*
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Postby Canton Empire » Thu May 21, 2015 4:15 am

Also the Avian Republic of Lazarus was proposed by Kazmr.
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Postby Tabaqui » Thu May 21, 2015 6:00 am

The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:Babiana argues the withdrawal was ‘all part of the plan’, leaving others to assume that the plan was to embarrass the Lone Wolves United more than if they had simply been defeated, instead of committing what one liberation participant drolly called a ‘strategic retreat’.

Babiana and Lapeirousia are puppets of Niadh, and Tabaqui is a puppet of Lapeirousia, so I might as well respond.

The intention for a surprise withdrawal was fully thought out and was not aimed to embarrass LWU nor LKE and other supporters. We all had fun, and celebrated our anniversary with our raiding because raiding is our raison d'etre.

I thank the Rejected Times for its continued interest and recognising longevity as one of our strengths. TRT is by far the best media out there and look forward to troubling you with more material the next ten years.
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Postby Xoriet » Thu May 21, 2015 8:05 am

Onderkelkia wrote:
The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:When you bear in mind that the Lone Wolves United too has been rehabilitating its image since 2011 when a ‘raider unity’ fiasco saw their ‘Anarchy’ raid supported by the Greater German Reich… this entire operation looked more and more like an overcooked reunion tour of scruffy, jet-legged rockers with their ankle monitors in tow.

The operation in Eternal Scholars had nothing to do with either the aftermath of the recent recruitment scandal or LWU's 2011 Anarchy invasion.

LWU notified the LKE several hours before the update that it was intending to withdraw at that point. The 'liberation' therefore occurred after the raid.

For the record, EPSA was also informed hours before update that the mission had ended and we were free to withdraw at our leisure. I believe The Black Hawks were similarly notified. Unibot, as always, the tapestry of an article written by you is well-woven and colorful, but you might want to cross-check for facts before you tie off the last thread. :p
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Postby Zacherie » Thu May 21, 2015 9:33 am

Xoriet wrote:Unibot, as always, the tapestry of an article written by you is well-woven and colorful, but you might want to cross-check for facts before you tie off the last thread. :p


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I think Unibot has made perfectly clear his attitude on making sure his facts are sorted out and accurate :rofl:
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Postby Scribe Amenemope » Thu May 21, 2015 10:07 am

As ever, he who opines to be the greatest defender visionary writes in the most offensive, yet adorable, terms he can devise. Visionaries are always limited by some fatal flaw. In this case, that flaw is bigotry in the attempt to procure sympathy for the plight of the poor, hapless natives. If they are so desperate for safety, they should have sought to protect themselves. As defenders, who had 12 hours to respond before we took the Delegacy, should have sought to prevent this before it occurred.

Yet what did they do in advance? Nothing that we saw. We spent five days waiting for a liberation attempt. You chose the day of withdrawal to liberate. Your ostensible triumph was bereft. You accomplished nothing here but the ability to don the back-patting, self-congratulatory manner so common to your kind. This article is as fallacious as the entirety of your devices.

Congratulations, you may well have liberated the region had we remained with the numbers we had. Felicitations, you ended up giving the Delegacy back to natives who would have received it already. We considered resigning earlier, but you moving in gradually to back up the now-incumbent Delegate, the one whose protests are nothing other than the commonplace native lament over their own choice to do nothing but rely on your dubious succor, instead of putting in all the effort you did to achieve your numbers and jump would have been a waste.

We had no intent of remaining further. Our support was notified hours before update because this was our intent. We waited for you, and you did not come. That you chose the time you did -- 5 days later -- was not our failing, but yours. Any ‘damage’ inflicted upon the piteous natives was merely prolonged by your reaction time.

Had we, hypothetically, intended to stay longer with our number at that especial update, your liberation would have been gifted to you by the foul play of none other than one of LWU’s self-proclaimed nemeses, he whom perhaps is the most devoted of them all. Does it feel well to know that a number of those who supported us early on were summoned to an allied region because someone wished to deliberately sabotage all efforts in two occurring raids -- as do you?

Do continue flaunting your sanctimonious attitudes at all raiders in the most public of ways. You neither achieved a true liberation due to being too late to the party, nor perhaps would have been able to accomplish your emancipation of Eternal Scholars without this malicious intervention.

Your railing and lack of trying over insufficient numbers against many large raids when defenders waned and raiders reigned not so long ago is, astonishingly, not shared by us. Nor would we ‘flee’ from the efforts of naught but a coalition of defenders, whose unity is only prevalent when they can actually agree to cooperate.
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Thu May 21, 2015 12:48 pm

Scribe Amenemope wrote:Defenders will have received Welcome Telegrams upon entry to the region. Have you shared the contents of these Telegrams with Gameplay yet, Unibot?

What makes you think anyone who jumped in talked to Uni about it? :P
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