The Rejected Times

[Elegarth]

Don't know what source you're using, but the whole Elegarth being "declared" winner of the election despite the fact that it was a tie sounds like a crisis to me. And that's just one example.

That actually averted a crisis where an election was dragged for over 20 days that totally froze any and all activity... also do you even know TWP's inner setup? One wonders...

[The Church of Satan]

But democracy! Without democracy you will surely wither away in the sunlight!

[New Athene]

Don't know what source you're using, but the whole Elegarth being "declared" winner of the election despite the fact that it was a tie sounds like a crisis to me. And that's just one example.

That actually averted a crisis where an election was dragged for over 20 days that totally froze any and all activity... also do you even know TWP's inner setup? One wonders...

Does anyone know the West Pacific's inner workings? To the inexperienced viewer such as myself, after viewing your foreign updates, I have presumed that the West Pacific is a mess of bureaucracy and indecision. Not to mention the fact your Delegate is unelected.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

But democracy! Without democracy you will surely wither away in the sunlight!

Hasn't happened so far.

Not to mention the fact your Delegate is unelected.

Your point being?

One of the great things about being a member of TWP is that you don't give a rat's arse about what non-TWP nations think of you. We've spent many years happily raising two fingers at other nations or regions who criticise the way we do things. The systems we have work for us. Don't like it? Don't join us then. Simple.

[Consular]

Urgh, you people and your need for these false things you call 'democracy'...

[United RussoAsia]

There is no such thing as a democracy.

It is by the game's rules IMPOSSIBLE.
That having been said, we have a functioning forum government and a functioning guardian circle.
They're seperate, but they both work.

Does anyone know the West Pacific's inner workings? To the inexperienced viewer such as myself, after viewing your foreign updates, I have presumed that the West Pacific is a mess of bureaucracy and indecision. Not to mention the fact your Delegate is unelected.

We function just fine, thanks. The forum government Is moving along well.
Also, what are you talking about? The delegate is indeed elected. Every endorsement they recieve is a vote for them.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand; the forum governments have absolutely no control over the in-game delegacy.
We simply acknowledge that rather than hiding from it and pretending it's not true, like all of you fakocracy advocates do.

[The Church of Satan]

And with all due respect, TWP hasn't had a presence in the interregional community in ages.

[Bachtendekuppen]

And with all due respect, TWP hasn't had a presence in the interregional community in ages.

A phrase starting with "with all due respect" is almost never respectful. This is no exception.

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand; the forum governments have absolutely no control over the in-game delegacy.
We simply acknowledge that rather than hiding from it and pretending it's not true, like all of you fakocracy advocates do.

Enforceable control? If you narrow it down to pure game mechanics, you might be right. If you look at broader politics, a forum government does have leverage over an in-game Delegate. It depends on the regional system, culture and custom. There are regions where a rogue Delegate wouldn't be able to go against the forum government for long.

[Elegarth]

Bach is correct, specially when mentioning the key part: it depends on the regional system, culture and custom. As a citizen of all feeders I've witnessed first hand how each feeder is different and attracts people naturally inclined to different aspects on the gameplay overall. People should in general remember - and respect - this.

Thanks for your wise words, my friend Bach

[United RussoAsia]

And with all due respect, TWP hasn't had a presence in the interregional community in ages.

Something that, had you a reliable source, you would know is changing.

[Harenhime]

I am disappointed by the continuing lack of current information on TBR, continued from your most recent issue. Back then, we were in the process of ratifying a constitution- today, having chosen one last week and having run elections since, we will have ministers in office. The candidates have been publicly listed for six days. I've talked to my fellows, and not one of us has been reached out to for questions or comments- all of your info seems to center on an interview with UGR (who had even then stepped down without warning and singlehanded started the whole period of "trainwreck" himself) and offhand judgements based on little more than a glance at the region. I personally am open to contact, and I'd imaging most of the incoming ministers would be as well, if you wish to hear more about anything that has happened in the past three weeks or so we'd love a bit of contact.

Thank you.

[United RussoAsia]

Based on the post above I'd say I'm noticing a trend.

CoS to further disprove your point we sent out a foreign dispatch within the last couple of days.

[Harenhime]

I mean I understand from a journalistic standpoint any info coming from the subject is going to include some bias, but it's still important to actually talk to the primary sources, right?

[United RussoAsia]

I mean I understand from a journalistic standpoint any info coming from the subject is going to include some bias, but it's still important to actually talk to the primary sources, right?

You're correct. I believe we can all agree that good, well informed journalism would include primary resource research and contact.

[Canton Empire]

I am disappointed by the continuing lack of current information on TBR, continued from your most recent issue. Back then, we were in the process of ratifying a constitution- today, having chosen one last week and having run elections since, we will have ministers in office. The candidates have been publicly listed for six days. I've talked to my fellows, and not one of us has been reached out to for questions or comments- all of your info seems to center on an interview with UGR (who had even then stepped down without warning and singlehanded started the whole period of "trainwreck" himself) and offhand judgements based on little more than a glance at the region. I personally am open to contact, and I'd imaging most of the incoming ministers would be as well, if you wish to hear more about anything that has happened in the past three weeks or so we'd love a bit of contact.

Thank you.

Cause TBR is cold news, we are on paradoxia and Charles becoming king

[Guy]

I haven't had time to listen to the episode yet. But the hysteria-steeped response to a word immediately associable with the drama in TWP just shows that some people will go significantly out of their way to respond in the most unmeasured way to anything said about them. And on the way, darn it if you have to run a delegitimisation campaign.

Regarding TBR: I think it's fair to say that interest has significantly waned, and I'd be surprised if there was an article on it anytime soon.

[United RussoAsia]

I haven't had time to listen to the episode yet. But the hysteria-steeped response to a word immediately associable with the drama in TWP just shows that some people will go significantly out of their way to respond in the most unmeasured way to anything said about them. And on the way, darn it if you have to run a delegitimisation campaign.

Regarding TBR: I think it's fair to say that interest has significantly waned, and I'd be surprised if there was an article on it anytime soon.

Certainly, if what was said was not designed, regardless of accuracy, to make us look bad, I don't think there would as much drama.

[The Church of Satan]

I mean I understand from a journalistic standpoint any info coming from the subject is going to include some bias, but it's still important to actually talk to the primary sources, right?

You're correct. I believe we can all agree that good, well informed journalism would include primary resource research and contact.

I wasn't aware I had to fact-check my opinions. How disrespectful of me. -_-

[United RussoAsia]

You're correct. I believe we can all agree that good, well informed journalism would include primary resource research and contact.

I wasn't aware I had to fact-check my opinions. How disrespectful of me. -_-

You don't. However, we know of course that the only reason you say that it is opinion is because you are under fire.
You would at any other time market this as mostly unbiased fact.

[The Church of Satan]

You think I care what ANYONE says about me in NS? Please, I couldn't care less, lol.

[United RussoAsia]

You think I care what ANYONE says about me in NS? Please, I couldn't care less, lol.

Nor did I say you did or should.

My job here is to simply clarify what you and the rest of TRT purposely presented incorrectly.

[Canton Empire]

You think I care what ANYONE says about me in NS? Please, I couldn't care less, lol.

I have to stand behind COS.

[The Church of Satan]

It's like talking to a brick wall with you, lol.

[United RussoAsia]

It's like talking to a brick wall with you, lol.

Is it?
Excellent.
My point's been made and it's not going anywhere.

[Solorni]

Apparently Balder was discussed. Was surprised Unibot supported the changes and this means that they will no longer be occurring (lol jks). Wasn't surprised that GR opposed them but he's a pretty infamous forum elite (idk, we need a term maybe a better one for them). Maybe I should listen to it but I'd much rather have the transcript.