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by Solorni » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:31 pm
by Unibot III » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:32 pm
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Glen-Rhodes » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:35 pm
by Glen-Rhodes » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:37 pm
by Solorni » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:38 pm
by Ikand » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:39 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Why do they still raid, when there are raiders they find equally annoying?
by Belschaft » Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:44 pm
North East Somerset wrote:Yao wrote:Why is it that independence was made in 2010 sometimes, but at other times independence started in GB&I in 2005?
Different iterations on the path to developing the modern Independence philosophy, all culminating in what we have today. The emergence of the new sinkers in 2011 acted as somewhat a melting pot of ideas as it were for some other influences. Suffice to say there were a variety of sources, including GB&I, where reference was made to "independent military policy" as far back as 2006. Another inspiration would be Equilism who talked about being an independent region in the 2008 Press Release: "Post Defender Age"; in which they attacked and split relations with the FRA in. Also there are influences from TNI, TSP & TNP as discussed above.
But if we had to single out a specific event as the beginning of Independence in the sense we mean it today, then I'd trace it back to when Oliver introduced the term a few days after a conversation where I coined the phrase in its Europeian context with him, in April 2011, see: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=110333 . Europeia as the #2 UCR for the past 3.5 years since the introduction of the concept, have done probably more than anywhere to develop and popularise the term in it's modern usage.
by Anumia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:25 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:TSP and Europeia didn't have any problems involving Independence until a small handful of people high up decided we weren't being Independent enough. If Europeia has no problems with our stated policy on military operations, then we don't have any problems at all right now involving Independence.
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Defender regions are actually quite accommodating to non-defender regions, as long as "non-defender" doesn't basically equate to raider or imperialist.
by Aperi » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:33 pm
by Anumia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:39 pm
by Belschaft » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:42 pm
Anumia wrote:I may be wrong, but I think the only people using the word "Independentism" are the critics; note Unibot's title. I never liked the -ism part (have used it once or twice in "Defenderism" for lack of a better word but don't really like it used in any case relevant to this discussion).
by Aperi » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:46 pm
by Anumia » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:51 pm
Belschaft wrote:Anumia wrote:I may be wrong, but I think the only people using the word "Independentism" are the critics; note Unibot's title. I never liked the -ism part (have used it once or twice in "Defenderism" for lack of a better word but don't really like it used in any case relevant to this discussion).
You would be correct. I am not aware of a single use of the term by any Independent individual or region - ever. It is used almost exclusively by Moralist Defenders, principally by Unibot.
by Rhina » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:55 pm
Aperi wrote:For the semantic Sally's: identifying as independent is generally a pretty good way of identifying as an apologist for the imperialist bloc.
by Aperi » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:58 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:24 am
Solorni wrote:Which mainstream raider is as annoying as some of the mainstream defenders?
by Topid » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:58 am
Belschaft wrote:You would be correct. I am not aware of a single use of the term by any Independent individual or region - ever. It is used almost exclusively by Moralist Defenders, principally by Unibot.Anumia wrote:I may be wrong, but I think the only people using the word "Independentism" are the critics; note Unibot's title. I never liked the -ism part (have used it once or twice in "Defenderism" for lack of a better word but don't really like it used in any case relevant to this discussion).
The. Same. Freaking. Page. Guys.Solorni wrote:independentism
Be proud, we didn't bite. I swam around the hook for a good it though.
by Rhina » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:22 am
Of whom you are making one of anyone who is not a Defender.Aperi wrote:Unliked? Sure, by my opponents.
Don't have to. Your arguments thus far boil down to, "If you're not with me, you're against me." I don't need to know anything else.Aperi wrote:Uncompromising? Not so much. Ask around.
by Aperi » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:28 am
by Belschaft » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:51 am
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