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Cerian Quilor
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Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:54 pm

I believe this interview was conducted before you and He had your fight.
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Mad Jack
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Ex-Nation

Postby Mad Jack » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:58 pm

*shrugs*

The inaccuracies don't really have anything to do with his political manoeuvrings and bitch-fits. Just thought I'd comment on them.
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Cerian Quilor
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Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:59 pm

I am curious as to what these innaccuracies are...
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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the Imperial Crown
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby the Imperial Crown » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:00 pm

Aren't we all Cerian? He's already made one thread regarding his feelings on the matter, so he can take it back to that one so we can all ignore his bleeding-heart.

Anyhow, thanks for the interview Uni, it was fun. :)
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Unibot III
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Unibot III » Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:15 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:I believe this interview was conducted before you and He had your fight.


Yes, I think so.
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but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
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The Rejected Times
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Postby The Rejected Times » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:25 am

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SkyDip
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Ex-Nation

Postby SkyDip » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:45 am

Not one, but two pieces by Unibot mentioning Europeia! I'm starting to think you might actually like us! :hug:
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Cerian Quilor
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Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:49 am

You guys decided to move quick to crow over your first meaningful victory in a while.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Anumia
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Postby Anumia » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:13 am

Some decent parts, but also some painfully propagandistic parts :P

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Charax
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Postby Charax » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:23 am

Is the lion meant to be Hileville or Mahaj? Or some other lion-themed NSer I don't know anything about?
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SkyDip
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Postby SkyDip » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:25 am

Charax wrote:Is the lion meant to be Hileville or Mahaj? Or some other lion-themed NSer I don't know anything about?

Well they couldn't very well draw me doing it, could they? :P
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Gordano and Lysandus wrote:SkyDip's actions have, ultimately, destroyed the World Assembly.

Eist wrote:Yea... If you are just going to casually dismiss SkyDip's advice, you are probably not going to get very far at all.

Sedgistan wrote:SkyDip is trying to help, and is giving sound advice. I'd suggestion listening to him, as he has experience of writing (and advising others with) legal proposals.

Frisbeeteria wrote:What Skydip said. This bitchfest is an embarrassment to the Security Council.

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Ambroscus Koth
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ambroscus Koth » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:02 am

The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:Earlier this week, Balder's legislative debated the proposal for a dual executive, something that has not been done in any Game-Created Region for quite a while.


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Milograd
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Ex-Nation

Postby Milograd » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:13 am

Charax wrote:Is the lion meant to be Hileville or Mahaj? Or some other lion-themed NSer I don't know anything about?

It's definitely Hile. He used to use that avatar in TSP.
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The Rejected Times
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Postby The Rejected Times » Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:14 pm

Milograd wrote:
Charax wrote:Is the lion meant to be Hileville or Mahaj? Or some other lion-themed NSer I don't know anything about?

It's definitely Hile. He used to use that avatar in TSP.


Bingo.

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The Rejected Times
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Postby The Rejected Times » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:29 pm

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Frattastan II
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Frattastan II » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:34 pm

SkyDip wrote:I would be lying if I said the appealing of being the first simultaneously Commended and Condemned nation didn’t excite me


Sedge had both a commendation and a condemnation from April 12 to June 15, 2011. You would be only second. :P
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Unibot III
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Unibot III » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:02 pm

Frattastan II wrote:
SkyDip wrote:I would be lying if I said the appealing of being the first simultaneously Commended and Condemned nation didn’t excite me


Sedge had both a commendation and a condemnation from April 12 to June 15, 2011. You would be only second. :P


He'd be the first to have both a serious commendation and a serious condemnation.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
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Cerian Quilor
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Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Cerian Quilor » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:13 pm

Yes, yes, quote Cartelsia, the guy who still hasn't had the courage to admit who he is and who has still refused to back up his assertions.
Never underestimate the power of cynicism, pessimism and negativity to prevent terrible things from happening. Only idealists try to build the future on a mountain of bodies.

The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Cormacville
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Founded: Nov 11, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Cormacville » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:25 pm

The Rejected Realms Media Corporation wrote:Osiris to grief St Abbaddon - personal grudge against Topid.

Excuse me?

I am, frankly, insulted. Osiris isn't in the Delegacy of St Abbaddon, I am -- on behalf of The Brotherhood of Malice. I have repeatedly made it clear that I had zero intention of griefing St Abbaddon. The only natives who have been ejected and banned are those who were endorsing Hawkswind and defenders, and I had every intention of clearing the regional ban list upon our departure. I've also repeatedly made it clear that this raid has been in the works for months, well before any personal grudge against Topid developed, and I don't have a personal grudge against Topid.

All of that said, this propaganda rag and its repeated smears against several of BoM's friends and allies -- particularly the non-factual smear against Osiris penned by the Delegate of The Rejected Realms -- were the last straw. You want a griefing so bad? You got it. The clock is officially ticking for your propagandists to actually become defenders and stop me.
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Frattastan II
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Frattastan II » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:30 pm

Maybe you should read the whole article.
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Communist Eraser
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Ex-Nation

Postby Communist Eraser » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:33 pm

Or read from buttom up! The best articles are always at the end.

Paging Todd: Our one article per month challenge still stands. This might work out as long as Uni keeps pestering me each month :lol:
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Cormacville
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Ex-Nation

Postby Cormacville » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:37 pm

Frattastan II wrote:Maybe you should read the whole article.

I read the whole edition. It was a sickening display of what happens when a region abandons all reason and elects a former FRA Archchancellor to its Delegacy. You've abandoned any semblance of journalism and gone straight to propaganda against any region that doesn't conform to the FRA's ideological standards, including several of BoM's friends and allies, and St Abbaddon will be punished for the litany of defender offenses against the sovereignty of free and independent regions.

Which is only the appropriate fate for a region that recruited for the UDL from its WFE.
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Frattastan II
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Frattastan II » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:39 pm

Cormacville wrote:
Frattastan II wrote:Maybe you should read the whole article.

I read the whole edition.


Doubt it. Both the fact the invasion is lead by the Brotherhood of Malice and that the invaders had shown no intent to grief are mentioned. Same for the fact that BoM's justification had nothing to do with Topid's leak.
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<@Guy> well done, fuckhead.
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Cormacville
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Postby Cormacville » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:41 pm

Frattastan II wrote:Doubt it. Both the fact the invasion is lead by the Brotherhood of Malice and that the invaders have shown no intent to grief are mentioned.

Yes, I did read that. And yet your big, bold headline screams, "Osiris to grief St Abbaddon"!

This won't change the outcome for St Abbaddon in the least, but who decided on the headline that didn't fit the story? Or shall I guess?
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South Pacific Belschaft
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Ex-Nation

Postby South Pacific Belschaft » Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:00 pm

The fact that TRR continues to allow Unibot to wage a propoganda war against TSP via its state media is far from conductive to positive relations between the two. May we assume that that Frattastan endorses this course of action, including the invention of anonymous 'sources' to mask Unibots own words and give them some small veneer of credibility?
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