The United Defenders League

[Benevolent Thomas]

Well it is a well known fact that Cormac has changed sides multiple times. I'm sure that Eist is not the only gameplayer that believes that Cormac will change again.

Do you think you deserve a commendation for something you might do? If not, why are you asking the same of the UDL?

I thought I was talking about Cormac Stark, not the UDL. I'm not going to speculate if the UDL will have Cormac back in their organization once he changes sides again, but I do believe there is a precedent. Please tell me if I'm wrong.

[Afforess]

Do you think you deserve a commendation for something you might do? If not, why are you asking the same of the UDL?

I thought I was talking about Cormac Stark, not the UDL. I'm not going to speculate if the UDL will have Cormac back in their organization once he changes sides again, but I do believe there is a precedent. Please tell me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong.

[Mad Jack]

He's not actually.

[Mahaj]

But it's irrelevant, because Cormac isn't coming back to the UDL.

[Mad Jack]

But it's irrelevant, because Cormac isn't coming back to the UDL.

Indeed.

But Afforess is still wrong, and we mustn't let him forget that.

[Afforess]

He's not actually.

Clarify.

[Mad Jack]

He's not actually.

Clarify.

Cormac quit the UDL once before.

Cormac came back to the UDL once before.

Hence, precedent.

[Solorni]

Who are the UDL to judge who is honourable or not?

You were founded by Unibot for fuck sake. One of your lts leaked classified documents from one of your then military partners. Your current leader leaks from private government areas to people. The idea that the current UDL leadership is qualified to judge whether someone is honourable is ludicrous.

I'm not sure what your point is. Every organization ever has flaws, and is not perfect. If we held everything to the standards you suggest, we could never judge anyone, because we all are dishonorable at times.

Cormac is clearly closely associated with the Osiris raids, and the UDL can't stand by and let someone who supports destruction of regions keep their badge of honor, especially when it goes against the UDL core mission.

Oh no.... are you part of the UDL?

[Afforess]

Clarify.

Cormac quit the UDL once before.

Cormac came back to the UDL once before.

Hence, precedent.

Nope.

Precedent would be JAL leaving and coming back. I'm not aware of defender-turned-raiders who have returned to the UDL.

Oh no.... are you part of the UDL?

I am pretty sure I am not, but that all depends on technicalities. Suffice to say I am tangiently acquainted by means of being part of government in a region friendly towards the UDL, so it's a rather large stretch. Personally I respect Mahaj. I am unfamiliar with most of the rest.

[Mad Jack]

Cormac quit the UDL once before.

Cormac came back to the UDL once before.

Hence, precedent.

Nope.

Precedent would be JAL leaving and coming back. I'm not aware of defender-turned-raiders who have returned to the UDL.

Hmm, well there's me. Oh, there's also Cormac. And Tim.

[Mahaj]

Yes there is precedent of raiders turning defender and coming to the UDL.

But its still not really relevant: Neither Georgie nor Cormac are going to be members of the UDL again.

[Afforess]

Yes there is precedent of raiders turning defender and coming to the UDL.

But its still not really relevant: Neither Georgie nor Cormac are going to be members of the UDL again.

I was asking about defenders turned raiders turned defenders (triple agent). Anyway I agree we are off topic.

[Mad Jack]

Neither Georgie nor Cormac are going to be members of the UDL again.

At this point dear, you couldn't pay me to come back.

[Robert Greene]

Neither Georgie nor Cormac are going to be members of the UDL again.

At this point dear, you couldn't pay me to come back.

Not even in cookies?

[Feux]

Neither Georgie nor Cormac are going to be members of the UDL again.

At this point dear, you couldn't pay me to come back.

It's a good thing they have no intention to then.

[Milograd]

Neither Georgie nor Cormac are going to be members of the UDL again.

At this point dear, you couldn't pay me to come back.

Based on the recent trend of spending money on NS, this could actually be interpreted literally, and that's pretty sad.

[Mahaj]

Neither Georgie nor Cormac are going to be members of the UDL again.

At this point dear, you couldn't pay me to come back.

Drive, by Daniel Pink, does a terrific job of describing why I would never pay anybody to defend.

[Solorni]

Yes there is precedent of raiders turning defender and coming to the UDL.

But its still not really relevant: Neither Georgie nor Cormac are going to be members of the UDL again.

What about when there is a new chief of the band?

[Frattastan II]

They haven't shown any intention to apply to UDL. So, the last page of this thread is made of arguably unnecessary hypotheticals.

[Milograd]

They haven't shown any intention to apply to UDL. So, the last page of this thread is made of arguably unnecessary hypotheticals.

JAL should apply.

[Afforess]

They haven't shown any intention to apply to UDL. So, the last page of this thread is made of arguably unnecessary hypotheticals.

JAL should apply.

That would be fabulous.

[Mad Jack]

They haven't shown any intention to apply to UDL. So, the last page of this thread is made of arguably unnecessary hypotheticals.

JAL should apply.

Hi.

[Durkadurkiranistan III]

I was once an ardent UDL member and supporter. In the backrooms of the conclave, I helped propel comrade Mahaj to CotB by publicly questioning Cormac's loyalty and undermining his campaign.

[The Dourian Embassy]

I was once an ardent UDL member and supporter. In the backrooms of the conclave, I helped propel comrade Mahaj to CotB by publicly questioning Cormac's loyalty and undermining his campaign.

Haha. Early on I was pushing Cormac, that whole conclave is a funny story.

[Durkadurkiranistan III]

I was once an ardent UDL member and supporter. In the backrooms of the conclave, I helped propel comrade Mahaj to CotB by publicly questioning Cormac's loyalty and undermining his campaign.

Haha. Early on I was pushing Cormac, that whole conclave is a funny story.

They actually had a couple of decent candidates in Solm and Ravania, but were too caught up in the politics of the day to push either of them through.