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by Cerian Quilor » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:23 pm
by Frisbeeteria » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:26 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:That's not what they said at all.
by The Google Empire » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:07 pm
by Cormac Stark » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:54 am
Galiantus wrote:Claraoculos wrote:As long as the password is not leaked,the non-updaters can be evacuated and deployed elsewhere, with a skeleton force garrisoned in the region to await the inevitable Liberation proposal
Except that I will oppose all attempts at liberating Ether through the SC, so they won't have to worry about that.
by Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:03 am
Cormac Stark wrote:Galiantus wrote:Except that I will oppose all attempts at liberating Ether through the SC, so they won't have to worry about that.
If I understand it correctly, your reason for opposing a liberation resolution is because Glass Gallows and by extension Ether espouses the ideology of Aretism. Rather than opposing the World Assembly just for the sake of opposing it, Aretism advocates national and regional sovereignty as well as a meritocratic system -- which precludes the involvement of an outside, interregional force like the World Assembly in the affairs of nations or regions. You argue that interregional organizations should not impose their will upon sovereign nations or regions, even invaders, and that nations and regions should thrive or fail based on their own merits rather than the will of the interregional community as expressed through the World Assembly. This is your reason for opposing the World Assembly in general and specifically in this case for opposing a Security Council resolution to liberate Ether.
Please correct me if I have any of that wrong; I have only a cursory familiarity with Aretism but I think I've highlighted its basic points. I'll await your reply to see if I'm missing anything important before making my point.
by Claraoculos » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:58 am
by Solorni » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:48 am
Frattastan wrote:This is not a recruitment thread. It's more of a news/announcement thread.
If this is still deemed threadjack I will stop it, of course.Cerian Quilor wrote:How often does, say,the ERN bancject natives? Or TNI (bar your favorite North Atlantic Example)?
TBR/TBH/DEN are not the only raiders in the world. When TNI captured such places as Scotland, or Belgium, or when the ERN occupied the Creed or Submerged Supercontinent of Eternal winter (The name was somethimg like that), they didn't banject natives at all.
The answer is "when they have the Influence to banject natives".
Nowadays all the mainstream raider groups don't have a problem with griefing. Actually I thought the ERN was anti-griefer, but I guess they changed their stance: they didn't protest when Wolf banned an impressive number of natives in Anarchy - a raid the ERN was supporting; plus that rubbish essay HEM wrote about regions being billboards with a name on it, and about griefing being a perfectly acceptable activity that doesn't affect "communities".
TNI tried to destroy Soviet Union both before and after it joined FRA. Colonisation, war ... it's nice to see they can come up with a random new reason each time, though.
by Frattastan II » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:59 am
Solorni wrote:Hmm... I think ERN left the Anarchy raid, but I'd have to double check.
<@Guy> well done, fuckhead.
* @Guy claps for frattastan
by Unibot III » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:12 am
Claraoculos wrote:Still be interesting to see how long the new overlords permit me to stay!
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Solorni » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:12 am
Frattastan II wrote:Solorni wrote:Hmm... I think ERN left the Anarchy raid, but I'd have to double check.
I recall posting in the Euro Octagon thread about the Anarchy invasion pointing out: a) the massive amount of griefing going on; b) the fact that the GGR was supporting the raid. Although people were annoyed by the Nazi presence, nobody seemed upset about the former - and a few even had a good laugh about it.
The ERN then left the Anarchy, but seemingly only because of the GGR. I have always thought that - had it been only for those ~ 50 banjected natives - you would have stayed there till the end.
The withdrawal of ERN (and of its allies, like TNI) eventually closed the endorsement gap enough to allow for a liberation.
Those few GGR WAs were a painful price to pay for Wolf.
by Galiantus II » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:07 am
by Frattastan II » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:03 pm
Solorni wrote:The thing is that it was not easy to tell if there was griefing or not, but it was easy to tell that there were Nazis.
<@Guy> well done, fuckhead.
* @Guy claps for frattastan
by Lyanna Stark » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:10 pm
"Only one man in a thousand is a leader of men. The other 999 follow women." -Groucho Marx
Unibot: "I've turned you into a defender chick and you've turned me into a respectable human being!"
[11:12pm]Mahaj: omg i have earth's endo
[11:12pm] Mahaj: this is the proudest moment of my defending career
by Mallorea and Riva » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:15 pm
by Jamie Anumia » Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:53 pm
The Bruce wrote:Was the refounding initiated by natives, defenders, or invaders? In other words, who was in control of the region when it was being emptied to refound?
by Cerian Quilor » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:41 pm
Claraoculos wrote:So, TBR et all beaten to the punch at major eh?
And after you had put in all that effort as well, such a waste.
Still be interesting to see how long the new overlords permit me to stay!
by Communist Eraser » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:36 pm
by Cerian Quilor » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:37 pm
by Everbeek » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:39 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:Missions can have multiple objectives, and the refound is just one part of it.
Cromarty wrote:Antifa, the Internationale and the Red Fleet are encased in the largest glass house in existence, and they're not throwing stones, they're firing boulders from catapults.
by Klaus Devestatorie » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:46 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:Missions can have multiple objectives, and the refound is just one part of it.
by Eist » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:09 pm
Unibot III wrote:Frankly, the lows that people sink to in this game is perhaps the most disturbing thing about NationStates Gameplay.
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:28 pm
Eist wrote:Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Cerian, please, do yourself a favor and don't screw up Halc's PR on his behalf.
I have this theory that Cerian is actually a defender that is undercover and going out his way to make raiders look like they are all bat-shit insane to reduce their credibility. He's the equivalent of Michele Bachmann with the Republican Party.
by Cromarty » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:39 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:There's a difference between breaking the rules, and being well....Cromarty...
<Koth>all sexual orientations must unite under the relative sexiness of madjack
by A Million Voices » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:46 pm
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