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Killer Kitty
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Postby Killer Kitty » Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:49 pm

Pergamon wrote:Is this really about St Abbaddon, or more about fighting the New Pacific Order? I wonder.


Maybe you should declare war on TNP and find out?

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Scottiesland
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Postby Scottiesland » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:45 pm

Killer Kitty wrote:
Pergamon wrote:Is this really about St Abbaddon, or more about fighting the New Pacific Order? I wonder.


Maybe you should declare war on TNP and find out?

Since TNP was aiding TBH.... I think they kinda did?

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Armaros
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Postby Armaros » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:44 am

Scottiesland wrote:
Killer Kitty wrote:
Maybe you should declare war on TNP and find out?

Since TNP was aiding TBH.... I think they kinda did?

That's not fighting the NPO, that's freeing a region from tyranny and attempting to restore a native who wants to bring back activity. TNP helping in that wasn't an attack on the NPO.
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Siwale
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Statement on the New Pacific Order

Postby Siwale » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:06 pm

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Statement on the New Pacific Order


Feeder regions have a unique and vital role to play in the NationStates community. They exist to welcome new nations, introduce them to the plethora of opportunities available, and foster growth as they work to gain their footing in the world. With every nation in NationStates starting out in one of only five feeder regions, it is imperative that every single one of these feeders bolsters the NationStates community.

The North Pacific has made an effort in recent years to find common ground with the New Pacific Order (NPO), largely through similarities in our anti-fascist ideologies. We have conducted a fair amount of joint military operations with the NPO that targeted fascist regions. We have even, in a first-of-its-kind collaboration involving all feeder regions, established an alert system for nations entering fascist regions. However, recent events have made it clear that continued collaboration with NPO is not worth the strain it places on our democratic core values.

We stand firmly against the staunch Francoist ideology advocated by the NPO. The North Pacific has historically opposed these GCR supremacist attitudes and has supported peaceful coexistence and productive collaboration with GCRs and UCRs alike. It is thanks to this policy that we are lucky to count several of NationStates’ premier UCRs among our most valuable allies, and to have welcomed some of our most dedicated members from these regions. However, it has become clear that our region’s collaborative efforts with the NPO, such as our joint N-Day faction, only served to further fuel their noxious views, with continued condescending rhetoric towards UCRs. It is unsettling to observe such contempt for the most populous part of NationStates, made by a government tasked with welcoming new nations to the NationStates community.

We also stand firmly against the continued attacks on GCR sovereignty carried out by the NPO. Defending native rule and democratic government in GCRs has been a cornerstone of The North Pacific’s foreign policy for more than a decade now, and more often than not, this cause has found ourselves fighting the NPO. We took a leading role in the worldwide fight against the previous attempt by the NPO to subvert democracy in Lazarus. We were willing to offer the NPO an opportunity to reform themselves as a peaceful member of the GCR community, and were eager to accept their ensuing apology as sincere. Unfortunately, recent events have demonstrated that our faith was misplaced. The NPO has yet again been discovered systematically working to undermine native rule in multiple GCRs. Tellingly, the targeted communities include the same region they previously apologized for subverting, with the same actors carrying out the operation, and with the same stratagem of tacit approval by the NPO leadership, including the (now former) Emperor and Consul.

Last but not least, recent revelations show these dire concerns to be a matter of defending our home against a foreign aggressor. We have received evidence showing Quaestor and Senator Svezjacael admitting to conducting clandestine operations in The North Pacific, as well as in Europe, one of our allies in the WALL, and in Lazarus, a fellow GCR. This is also history repeating itself, given previous attempts by former NPO Senator Gaspo to sabotage our government operations, attempts that the NPO acknowledged took place on their behalf and apologized for.

The North Pacific can no longer remain silent on these unsettling events and joins the ever growing number of regions denouncing the actions of the New Pacific Order. We have initiated the closure of our gameside and forumside embassies with the NPO. We also demand that Svezjacael is immediately removed from his role as Quaestor and Senator and banned from the Pacific for his acts of aggression against The North Pacific and other allies and GCRs. We will be considering our options, depending on the response we receive from the NPO.

Sincerely,

Siwale
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Kurnugia
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Postby Kurnugia » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:11 pm

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Dalimbar
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Postby Dalimbar » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:14 pm

Hail TNP! As a Guardian of TWP I welcome this statement from our neighbours to the north. We must all stand together against NPO aggression and subversion.
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Postby Altinsane » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:14 pm

I'm baffled to continue to see new evidence of NPO's sticky fingers in so many regions - especially to see the praise that Pacificans are offering up to these people who are treating themselves like martyrs for causing chaos and instability in all of our regions. Hail, TNP. I am sorry that your region has been no exception. I had been holding out some dim hope that some of us had been left untouched.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:16 pm

A strong statement from The North Pacific, and it's refreshing to see TNP taking such bold and decisive action. This is how TNP should always be.

And, as always, may the NPO burn. NPO delenda est.
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Lord Dominator
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:17 pm

Altinsane wrote:I'm baffled to continue to see new evidence of NPO's sticky fingers in so many regions - especially to see the praise that Pacificans are offering up to these people who are treating themselves like martyrs for causing chaos and instability in all of our regions. Hail, TNP. I am sorry that your region has been no exception. I had been holding out some dim hope that some of us had been left untouched.

We're missing what; Balder, TRR, and TEP so far here?
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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:18 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Altinsane wrote:I'm baffled to continue to see new evidence of NPO's sticky fingers in so many regions - especially to see the praise that Pacificans are offering up to these people who are treating themselves like martyrs for causing chaos and instability in all of our regions. Hail, TNP. I am sorry that your region has been no exception. I had been holding out some dim hope that some of us had been left untouched.

We're missing what; Balder, TRR, and TEP so far here?


For embassy closures/statements of formal condemnation for their actions? Yes.

Edit: And TSP, but that's a little more complicated.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

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Postby Kurnugia » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:19 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Altinsane wrote:I'm baffled to continue to see new evidence of NPO's sticky fingers in so many regions - especially to see the praise that Pacificans are offering up to these people who are treating themselves like martyrs for causing chaos and instability in all of our regions. Hail, TNP. I am sorry that your region has been no exception. I had been holding out some dim hope that some of us had been left untouched.

We're missing what; Balder, TRR, and TEP so far here?

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ABC
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Postby ABC » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:19 pm

Good job to the Delegate for writing a statement that is professional, statesmanlike, and above-all true. The NPO continues to aggravate the rest of the NS world with its actions. While it is understandable to be neutral on many things, this has gone on too long. It is refreshing seeing TNP finally denouncing the actions of this regime.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:23 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Altinsane wrote:I'm baffled to continue to see new evidence of NPO's sticky fingers in so many regions - especially to see the praise that Pacificans are offering up to these people who are treating themselves like martyrs for causing chaos and instability in all of our regions. Hail, TNP. I am sorry that your region has been no exception. I had been holding out some dim hope that some of us had been left untouched.

We're missing what; Balder, TRR, and TEP so far here?

I TG'ed our delegate about this earlier and he stated that "they [NPO] made serious mistakes and poor decisions that were exposed" and that the TEP government "is evaluating our response".

So, I'd be surprised if our government isn't going to condemn them at the minimum.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:24 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:We're missing what; Balder, TRR, and TEP so far here?


For embassy closures/statements of formal condemnation for their actions? Yes.

Edit: And TSP, but that's a little more complicated.

ABC wrote:Good job to the Delegate for writing a statement that is professional, statesmanlike, and above-all true. The NPO continues to aggravate the rest of the NS world with its actions. While it is understandable to be neutral on many things, this has gone on too long. It is refreshing seeing TNP finally denouncing the actions of this regime.

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:We're missing what; Balder, TRR, and TEP so far here?

I TG'ed our delegate about this earlier and he stated that "they [NPO] made serious mistakes and poor decisions that were exposed" and that the TEP government "is evaluating our response".

I was actually referring to there being evidence of NPO infiltration and spying :p
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:25 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
For embassy closures/statements of formal condemnation for their actions? Yes.

Edit: And TSP, but that's a little more complicated.

ABC wrote:Good job to the Delegate for writing a statement that is professional, statesmanlike, and above-all true. The NPO continues to aggravate the rest of the NS world with its actions. While it is understandable to be neutral on many things, this has gone on too long. It is refreshing seeing TNP finally denouncing the actions of this regime.

Stellar Colonies wrote:I TG'ed our delegate about this earlier and he stated that "they [NPO] made serious mistakes and poor decisions that were exposed" and that the TEP government "is evaluating our response".

I was actually referring to there being evidence of NPO infiltration and spying :p

Alrighty
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Vulturret II
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Postby Vulturret II » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:26 pm

An excellent statement by the Delegate.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:30 pm

Lord Dominator wrote:I was actually referring to there being evidence of NPO infiltration and spying :p


In that case, they spied on TRR and Balder to lesser levels.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Kurnugia
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Postby Kurnugia » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:40 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Lord Dominator wrote:I was actually referring to there being evidence of NPO infiltration and spying :p


In that case, they spied on TRR and Balder to lesser levels.

Isnt there some leak about bragging having TSP's election under control?
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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:42 pm

Also - congratulations to The North Pacific, and I dearly hope you will continue to remember that last time this happened, the "fix it guy" Ivan lied through his teeth about being unaware and making things right, as recent logs now show. Take any promises you may receive with hefty grains of salt. You know better than most that The Pacific has not changed from this culture of aggression for years.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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How Do I Telegram API?

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King Bradley
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Postby King Bradley » Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:22 am

It’s always refreshing to see TNP be the beacon of GCR and UCR relations. Especially coupled with this strong denouncing of The NPO. I look forward to working alongside TNP in ridding the world of this hateful and violent community.
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Malphe
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Postby Malphe » Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:44 am

Ugh, for as much as I wanted to defend the NPO in these situations and as much as I liked the improving relations we had I think this is the right move. What, with the subversion of other regions as well as the Block situation? Yeah I can't defend that, only people who are trying are the Pacificans locking down into a siege mentality. I seriously don't hate the NPO or it's members, not going to be chanting NPO delenda est anytime soon but this action was warranted.
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King Bradley wrote:It’s always refreshing to see TNP be the beacon of GCR and UCR relations. Especially coupled with this strong denouncing of The NPO. I look forward to working alongside TNP in ridding the world of this hateful and violent community.

Don't think that any of this excuses you in anybody's eyes.
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Adstravia
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Postby Adstravia » Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:48 am

DEATH TO THE NPO!

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:09 am

Adstravia wrote:DEATH TO THE NPO!

You're a charmer aren't you.
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Postby Malphe » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:04 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Adstravia wrote:DEATH TO THE NPO!

You're a charmer aren't you.

Diplomatic extraordinaire.
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Postby Sanjurika » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:09 am

Malphe wrote:
Drop Your Pants wrote:You're a charmer aren't you.

Diplomatic extraordinaire.

The classic politician. Hiding his motives behind a smiling mask.
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