What is raiding and defending?

[Reseda Island]

well its not defending anymore on "defenders" parts after a certain amount of time its not defending when an operation has been accepted by the region, I dont care if I dont have proof, its a fact you'd think defenders would be happy that a region will get a new founder and its one less region they have to worry about, but thats assuming this isnt about there ego trips

[Sedgistan]

Defenders don't defend regions which explicitly tell them they're not interested in being defended. Its happened before, and we just leave those regions alone. Also, if founderless regions want to re-found, we often offer to help them - I re-founded Gay and Soviet Union (plus a few others) in order to help them out, so that they wouldn't have to worry about being invaded. I find that most regions are happier to have defenders help them re-found rather than invaders, as they know they can trust defenders to not want to take over their region.

[Strykla]

Raiding is a group of commandos who sneak into a enemy base to blow stuff up, and defending is some guys stopping a attack.

[Reseda Island]

Defenders don't defend regions which explicitly tell them they're not interested in being defended. Its happened before, and we just leave those regions alone. Also, if founderless regions want to re-found, we often offer to help them - I re-founded Gay and Soviet Union (plus a few others) in order to help them out, so that they wouldn't have to worry about being invaded. I find that most regions are happier to have defenders help them re-found rather than invaders, as they know they can trust defenders to not want to take over their region.

yes but I talked to one of the natives in the region im in and he agreed to the plan, the other natives haven't responded yet- so defender should kindly stay out of it

[Sedgistan]

Get that native to contact us, and we might believe you. If you truly want to re-found the region, with a native installed as the new founder, then we'd have no problem with helping you out.

[Reseda Island]

yeah, you defenders really aren't in charge I don't have to prove anything, the fact that a native endorsed me and if you look at his nation you'd know he's not new to the game, give it a week after its refounded this natives going to be delegate and in charge.

[Sedgistan]

I see. So when given a chance to prove your intentions are honourable you back down, and dodge the issue? A native endorsing you means nothing. Many of them know nothing about invading, if he knew you intended to kick him out of his region, I don't imagine he'd be endorsing you. You say he'd be delegate... but who would be founder? Thats what really matters.

[Reseda Island]

I dont keep telegrams except the setting change ones, and ahh I'm not going to kick him out, so unless your actually arrogant enough to call me a liar I'd stop that thought right now, I brought up founder he didn't care who, just as long as one we let him and the others come back and two he was not forced to join anything like a forum or an army, which I agreed too, I dont go back on stuff I agree too.

[Sedgistan]

If you want to re-found, you'll have to kick him out. I'm not calling you a liar, I'm asking for you to clarify your position, and to show some actual proof that this native supports you. Aside from that, you also need an opinion off the other native, if you want to claim native support for your plans.

So aside from wanting proof of native support, my questions are this - why do you want to re-found this region, and if you insist on re-founding, why not just let one of the natives be founder?

[Reseda Island]

because only one native talks, and no I would not have to boot him, eventually when everything is ready to be refounded he'll leave and come back, and how is anyone going to prove good intentions when defenders just assume the worse rush in and cause more chaos, sorry where I am has calmed down, no one's complained if they cared they'd complain, if you read the fact book I have no intent to boot anyone, stop repeating yourself, stop insulting this person who endorsed me, which is exactly what your doing by saying "oh he doesn't know what he's doing" he knows.

[Sedgistan]

I did read the factbook, but seeing as New Earth has a history of invading, I'm not entirely sure whether to believe you, especially as the WFE says: "One People, One Empire, One Leader". If you're there with good intentions, why even bother to change the WFE?

[Reseda Island]

i was asked to put the motto in~besides I don't think it matters what I say defenders don't generally listen. furthermore why would we endorse natives if we wanted to boot them out easily, were giving them influence that sort of would make purely destroying difficult, and why would I even be discussing this with you if I meant purely to destroy and brag, maybe its about time defenders learned to trust people.

[Sedgistan]

I am listening to you, thats what this conversation is about As before, if you're truly there to help them, I can support you with that - I'd just like to hear from the natives that they're ok with it.

[Reseda Island]

then feel free contact Nerv

[Sedgistan]

I have done

[Reseda Island]

well if you wish to speak with me feel free to Telegram me, my computer and I are going to a party.seeya all later

[Bears Armed]

especially as the WFE says: "One People, One Empire, One Leader". If you're there with good intentions, why even bother to change the WFE?

"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" ?
Hr'rmm, is 'NAZI EUROPE' involved in this operation?

[All Sta Gangstas]

who can i invade and how do u do it?

[Reseda Island]

especially as the WFE says: "One People, One Empire, One Leader". If you're there with good intentions, why even bother to change the WFE?

"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" ?
Hr'rmm, is 'NAZI EUROPE' involved in this operation?

no why?

[Bears Armed]

especially as the WFE says: "One People, One Empire, One Leader". If you're there with good intentions, why even bother to change the WFE?

"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" ?
Hr'rmm, is 'NAZI EUROPE' involved in this operation?

no why?

You mean that you didn't recognise the source of the motto that you posted in the WFE?!?

[Reseda Island]

I put what my founder told me to put in there, sorry for not being able to read a language not my own...

[Cinistra]

who can i invade and how do u do it?

The second post on this thread, written by Goobergunchia contains a link about the subject.

[Sedgistan]

I put what my founder told me to put in there, sorry for not being able to read a language not my own...

Ahh, the Nuremburg defence seems strangely appropriate in this case

[Reseda Island]

the point of the matter is in the Universe of the natives 1 hasn't even been on since we've been there, one you all seem to want to be delegate as in your last raid you were endorsing him for some reason, another died, came back and hasn't spoken, and the final has accepted this and agrees with it, so really with the only representative to the region speaking in the tactics favor, and helping it by endorsing me, the only thing defenders need to do is help or stay out of the way.

[A mean old man]

totally off-topic much...?