What happened to the invasions we use to love?

[Galiantus]

I am with you there. Gameplay needs to become a larger part of NS again.

[[violet]]

What Mahaj was referring to, I think, is the fact that the R/D game is currently balanced somewhat in favour of raiders, and that even the majority of raiders acknowledge that fact. Your pretty much the only person arguing that it is balanced in favour of defenders.

I'm not sure it's "balanced" in favor of anyone, so much as that we've wound up in a situation where certain tactics have become more viable while others have been restricted, mostly by accident. There are particular types of raiding we've actively tried to curb, such as invaders dropping a password lock on an older region of neutrals, but aside from that, the big changes have mostly come as byproducts of something else: easy access to region order via the new API plus a hardware upgrade for the game server making update times more predictable. This encourages a particular type of raiding (and defending), but it's not by design and it's not really balanced. I'm not even sure it's useful to talk about a "balance" between invaders and defenders, since those are two disparate groups. If you like stealth-raiding, for example, the fact that tag-raiding has become more viable doesn't help you.

[Kogvuron]

If you like stealth-raiding, for example, the fact that tag-raiding has become more viable doesn't help you.

I disagree on this. The rise in tag-raiding places more focus on tag-raiding which allows more stealth raids to slip under the radar of defenders.

[Jamie Anumia]

If you like stealth-raiding, for example, the fact that tag-raiding has become more viable doesn't help you.

I disagree on this. The rise in tag-raiding places more focus on tag-raiding which allows more stealth raids to slip under the radar of defenders.

That depends if you focus on defending and spotting against tag raids or general raids. If you do the latter, sleepers and stealth raids would be caught more, one would think.

[Frattastan]

If you like stealth-raiding, for example, the fact that tag-raiding has become more viable doesn't help you.

I disagree on this. The rise in tag-raiding places more focus on tag-raiding which allows more stealth raids to slip under the radar of defenders.

I don't think "stealth raids" slip under the radar more often.
I caught Feuer swapping in European Union a few weeks ago, for example.

[Eist]

I disagree on this. The rise in tag-raiding places more focus on tag-raiding which allows more stealth raids to slip under the radar of defenders.

I don't think "stealth raids" slip under the radar more often.
I caught Feuer swapping in European Union a few weeks ago, for example.

With a dirty puppet...

[Frattastan]

I don't think "stealth raids" slip under the radar more often.
I caught Feuer swapping in European Union a few weeks ago, for example.

With a dirty puppet...

Maybe he forgot that invading requires effort.

[Andacantra]

I think, that on some further thought, it's not the big stealthy -major- raids that we all miss - they were infrequent before, and are infrequent now. It's the smaller scale, shorter holds, smaller but still -held- raids. We've got plenty of both extremes - of the tags and of the massive "flagship" (for want of a better word) raids, and very very little inbetween. I think that -that's- what's missing from raiding in general - sure, I do it, but I'm preeeetty much the only person doing it right now. And the lack of those boils down to raiders feeling the need to pile, and not wishing to pile on a raid when they could be putting greater effort in elsewhere into some major raid (also, few updaters and lots of non-updaters never looks good).

[Tramiar]

(also, few updaters and lots of non-updaters never looks good).

I'd rather have everyone be updaters too. But I love our non-updaters too. Not that TBH generally has many of those.


Anyway, TBH was having those smaller regions that we just held for a day or so when we were tagging more often. They were just ignored or considered tags like the rest. So it hasn't been non-existant, and you aren't the only one who does them. Unless you mean in the last couple months or so, in which case, I can't say I've been around enough to notice if other groups have been doing it or not.

[Ora Amaris]

I dunno, the invasion of Hippiedom seems to be gathering a large amount of praise.
I see invasions/defending more annoying than anything.