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Republican Schutzbund
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Democratia - a Peacezone

Postby Republican Schutzbund » Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:11 am

Democratia is a Peacezone! The WA Delegate holds no power whatsoever and nations cannot be ejected.

The World Factbook Entry will not be changed and posts will not be suppressed.
Movement in and out of the region is unrestricted, as no password can be imposed.


Inspired by some suggestions put forward in this forum, Democratia is a social experiment.
It is an anarchist region, formed by nations who freely associate under a non-hierarchical, decentralised, participatory form.


Power-hunger, egocentrism and forceful imposition of authority have no value here.

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Postby Democratic Dachshund » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:34 am

As the other current resident of Democratia I disagree!

I HEREBY CLAIM MY AUTHORITY OVER THIS REGION.

You will SUBMIT to me as your leader. You will ALLOW me to represent you. SUPPORT me or else!

Or not, there's nothing I could do to make you...but I'll pout with my puppy dog eyes!
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Eternal Isolation
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Postby Eternal Isolation » Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:42 am

Guess what.

Unofficial forum.

Bada-boom.

(On a side note, well-managed Egotism is exactly how you get people to follow you on the internet.)
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:02 am

Doesn't really work since at the end of the day the founder has unquestionable power. That having been said, dibs.
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Postby Eternal Isolation » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:03 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:Doesn't really work since at the end of the day the founder has unquestionable power. That having been said, dibs.


I assumed the founder wouldn't intervene.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:06 am

Eternal Isolation wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Doesn't really work since at the end of the day the founder has unquestionable power. That having been said, dibs.


I assumed the founder wouldn't intervene.

I assume the same, but at the end of the day the fact that he could if he chose to makes it different from a GCR. Still, I call dibs. International law of dibs.
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Postby Eternal Isolation » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:09 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Eternal Isolation wrote:
I assumed the founder wouldn't intervene.

I assume the same, but at the end of the day the fact that he could if he chose to makes it different from a GCR. Still, I call dibs. International law of dibs.


I think you have to join Democratia or have a puppet in Democratia in order to have influence in Democratia.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:13 am

Eternal Isolation wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I assume the same, but at the end of the day the fact that he could if he chose to makes it different from a GCR. Still, I call dibs. International law of dibs.


I think you have to join Democratia or have a puppet in Democratia in order to have influence in Democratia.

Ah but membership in a Peacezone is based not in influence or endorsements, but rather in soft power. I'm going to rule the region without being in it.
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Postby Eternal Isolation » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:14 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Eternal Isolation wrote:
I think you have to join Democratia or have a puppet in Democratia in order to have influence in Democratia.

Ah but membership in a Peacezone is based not in influence or endorsements, but rather in soft power. I'm going to rule the region without being in it.


Well, more power to you. I almost hope you succeed.
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Postby Eternal Isolation » Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:20 am

You might want to register for the forum, unless you plan on influencing a region without having any contact with it.
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Postby Republican Schutzbund » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:43 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:I assume the same, but at the end of the day the fact that he could if he chose to makes it different from a GCR.


True. I admit I lied.
Democratia actually isn't a Peacezone. It is only an experiment that attempts to to recreate the abstract concept of Peacezone as closely as the current game mechanics allow it, to show how it would work, of if it would work.

We want to promote unconventional forms of regional organisation, and new ways of playing NationStates . :)


I doubt I will ever have conflicting interests, no matter what happens, so ideally I would log on only once every 60 days and use a random puppet if I ever wish to take part in discussions on how the future region should be set up.
Me and Dachshund chose Democratia for this because of the name, and the fact it is Liberated by the Security Council.
However, being it based on the concept of voluntary association, nobody will be forced to accept it or recognize it as a Peacezone.
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:32 am

I've just sent a [new] puppet over there: Bears Disarmed.
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Postby Democratic Dachshund » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:07 pm

Mini update, one week on:

I somehow suspect Republican Schutzbund got the better deal...he plays the role of silent founder, just making sure he doesn't CTE and keeping it a Peacezone, while I got pushed into playing the go-getter trying to make the concept work! :P

On that note, we have started recruiting! We are up to 10 nations. Let's hope there are some genuinely involved ones there. Being the main nation doing things has made me self-proclaimed defacto leader, but ideally I'm looking to see if we could get a few people who crave power (so we'll be have competing factions...in a peacezone!) so things get a lot more interesting!
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Postby Eternal Isolation » Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:55 pm

Bump for news.

Democratia is officially declaring war on TITO.
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Postby Eist » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:32 pm

Eternal Isolation wrote:Bump for news.

Democratia is officially declaring war on TITO.


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Postby Icamera » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:13 pm

Wait... a Peacezone declaring war? :blink:
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Postby Cinistra » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:58 am

Icamera wrote:Wait... a Peacezone declaring war? :blink:

Of course. As long as war isn't actually going on inside Democratia the region is a peace zone. The social concept with a founder with unlimited power appeals to me, however. Is it OK that I send over a tiny little puppet? Cinistran Raider Puppet is currently without any assignments, and with a name like that, you'll know it's my puppet. No secrets. If you don't like it's presence, your founder can always use his unlimited power to banject me.
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>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.
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Postby Republican Schutzbund » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:08 am

Everyone is welcome to move and stay into Democratia.
Even if/when we don't like them.

Even if they might be determined to destroy us. :meh:
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Postby Cinistra » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:59 am

Republican Schutzbund wrote:Everyone is welcome to move and stay into Democratia.
Even if/when we don't like them.

Even if they might be determined to destroy us. :meh:

How can we destroy you? You have an active founder, remember. My puppet is known, and will be polite and kind. You will probably ignore it's presence anyway.
"Send forth all legions! Do not stop the attack until the city is taken! Slay them all!"
>Can I invade other people's regions?

Yes. The practice of "region crashing," where a group of nations all move to a region with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position, is part of the game. Certain groups within NationStates are particularly adroit at this, and can attack very quickly.
>Once I've taken over a region, can I eject everyone else?

You can try. Invader Delegates tend to have very little Regional Influence, which makes ejecting long-time residents difficult. But Delegates can be as kind, generous, evil, or despotic as they wish. It's up to regional residents to elect good Delegates.
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Postby Eternal Isolation » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:42 pm

You're welcome to join us. :)
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Postby Democratic Dachshund » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:50 am

Big bump!

We are still around. Currently at 4 sleepy nations.

In times of crisis and chaos all around NS, Peacezones more than ever prove themselves to be the superior form of government. Power corrupts, and only by removing all power shall your souls be set free.
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Postby Bears Disarmed » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:04 am

It's gone. The founder CTEd, the only other nation there at the time apart from urrs turned out to be a raider puppet, they had enough influence to kick urrs out, and they've refounded...

However the original Democratia's ideals still live on, in Democratia Reborn!
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Postby Doom Squad Commander » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:32 pm

The peace zone is no more. HUZZAH!
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Postby Siberian Districts » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:41 pm

Doom Squad Commander wrote:The peace zone is no more. HUZZAH!


Oh. You're back.
Didn't Zao scare you off not that long ago?
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Postby Doom Squad Commander » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:44 pm

Siberian Districts wrote:
Doom Squad Commander wrote:The peace zone is no more. HUZZAH!


Oh. You're back.
Didn't Zao scare you off not that long ago?


I'm confused. Who's Zao?
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